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[NorwegianboyEE]

Even if S_S were to flip town. Day and Luca should just remain untouchable.
Alisae quickhammering together with a town!Day would be an very very strange strategy if they are scum with Fark.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually scratch that, i've seen scum just quickhammer their partner when E-1.

[Day]

Lucy probably busses Chara, right?!??!

How so?

Because Chara was clearly the death ray for the day and you'd think scum!Lucy would care about appearances. I dunno, I have a weird soulread on Lucy being town now ever since that one post she made yesterday.

S_S's reasoning to vote Fark was actually good, and this self-meta does mean something. I don't see anything to suggest he's scum, just it's hard to be very confident he's town.

Alisae has still had weird play this game other than that Farkran hammer and posting around it which I thought was very genuine

This is a difficultly

[Day]

That Ali's play this phase is slightly skeevy and eir preference between Chara vs. S_S is awkwardly articulated?

Yeah....

Surprisingly, Alisae's my pick for last scum right now

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why was Menalque shot though.

[Day]

VOTE: ali

Who is town

Me
Isis
Day
Norwee, regrettably

How many left

S_S
Chara
Luca
Ali

Hmm

Maybe not luca

Chara + (ali/S_S) i guess

Like assuming that I’m right on my day and norwee reads

That’s me, Lucy, day, norwee all town

I *think* I believe Luca is still town. I was thinking at night that it was weird for him to like... mishandle his buddy being wagoned that strongly

So that’s literally.. chara, you, ali

[Something_Smart]

I have a weird soulread on Lucy being town now ever since that one post she made yesterday.

Remind me which post?

[Day]

Lucy is town

I feel strongly about this

Because Lucy is just a villager

Oh, scum might've thought these were softs and that Mene had an inno of some kind on Lucy

Pretty sure this makes Lucy town

[Day]

correct

[Day]

Oops. This one:

It makes me a weird sad that you are misreading me here. I don't think it will cost us the game but for some reason I want to be read correctly by you in particular

[Something_Smart]

My only reservation with Luca is that he deadass tried to push through a skitter execution instead of a Farkran one.

But if he can pull that off as scum and still have everyone townreading him, I'm fine with losing.

[Day]

lol but do you think he did it genuinely? His reasoning and pushes still feel natural and in good faith to me, even if they were wrong.

[Something_Smart]

Oh, scum might've thought these were softs and that Mene had an inno of some kind on Lucy

Perhaps. But there are any number of reasons why he could be killed.

I actually think it's pretty plausible that scum-Lucy kills Menalque before he can change his mind on her.

[Something_Smart]

Oops. This one:

Hmm.

I don't know that I've seen Isis's scumgame before, but this doesn't seem like a feeling that she'd be unable to replicate? Like it kinda has to do with out-of-game feelings.

When I think of what I've used to read her in the past it's usually when she has a flurry of thoughts that come stream-of-consciousness and seem to accurately reflect how a townie would be evaluating and changing their mind real-time. I believe she's done this as town in every recent game I've played with her? But I don't think she's done it here.

[Something_Smart]

lol but do you think he did it genuinely? His reasoning and pushes still feel natural and in good faith to me, even if they were wrong.

Well, it's hard to tell. I did feel like he wasn't fully engaging my defense of skitter and we were kinda talking past each other. Of course that can come from a tunneled townie, but I don't think it was clearly good faith.

[Day]

I don't know that I've seen Isis's scumgame before, but this doesn't seem like a feeling that she'd be unable to replicate? Like it kinda has to do with out-of-game feelings.

It's an out-of-game feeling that'd have to be faked though, because it's dependent on her alignment

Maybe though

[NorwegianboyEE]

How good is Skitter at reading you S_S? I think they said they townread you earlier.

[Day]

Oh, scum might've thought these were softs and that Mene had an inno of some kind on Lucy

Perhaps. But there are any number of reasons why he could be killed.

I actually think it's pretty plausible that scum-Lucy kills Menalque before he can change his mind on her.

I mean, that's a possibility, but killing your one defender while everyone else has you in the PoE so early still seems a little dangerous. I think it's more likely someone read Mene as a PR or someone else killed him for his reads.

[Day]

When I think of what I've used to read her in the past it's usually when she has a flurry of thoughts that come stream-of-consciousness and seem to accurately reflect how a townie would be evaluating and changing their mind real-time. I believe she's done this as town in every recent game I've played with her? But I don't think she's done it here.

This is a good point though

[Something_Smart]

It's an out-of-game feeling that'd have to be faked though, because it's dependent on her alignment

Well yes and no. The feeling of her not wanting to be misread by you can be real. The only fake part is just her being aware of this and remembering to post it.

[Something_Smart]

How good is Skitter at reading you S_S?

Good, asterisk. I fooled her pretty hard in a recent scumgame, but I think that's the only time I have successfully fooled her.

I was a bit surprised to see her come out of that and call me town again without much paranoia, but if anything that makes her read even more trustworthy.

[Something_Smart]

I mean, that's a possibility, but killing your one defender while everyone else has you in the PoE so early still seems a little dangerous.

Is it true that Lucy was in everyone else's PoE? It seemed to me that the consensus PoE was {me, Alisae} and the biggest threat to that would be Menalque flipping his read on Lucy.

[Alisae]

I’m personally in favor of ending the game as soon as possible

[NorwegianboyEE]

1+ that

[NorwegianboyEE]

No lim sucks.