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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Gera

[clidd]

After a reread on my iso, I think I was decent enough in the sense of gamesolving to be at least a townlean from the perspective of Town!Gera. He played with town!me and I’m not very different here, but the insistence on “I’m still stuck in my clidd vote”, “I don’t have any other reads” and the lack of desire to seek AI information about the game reflect me as a profound stagnant/poor behavior. I'm still not sure if he would be scum because of that, but I wouldn't mind if he's the elimination to avoid losing it if the deadline expires.

[Flea The Magician]

@Flea

- Is a no lim better than a geraintm lim?

Loaded much. We are in odd numbers, we need an elimination.
Hands can be forced.

[VFP]

After a reread on my iso, I think I was decent enough in the sense of gamesolving to be at least a townlean from the perspective of Town!Gera. He played with town!me and I’m not very different here, but the insistence on “I’m still stuck in my clidd vote”, “I don’t have any other reads” and the lack of desire to seek AI information about the game reflect me as a profound stagnant/poor behavior. I'm still not sure if he would be scum because of that, but I wouldn't mind if he's the elimination to avoid losing it if the deadline expires.

Just vote here. Lets get a wagon larger than 3 going.
We have a day to go unless we are looking at scrambling in the last few hours.

Loaded much. We are in odd numbers, we need an elimination.
Hands can be forced.

This wasn't a loaded question, I actually wanted to know your view on it.
That's good to know at least, as the way you were posting I just felt you wouldn't want to lim outside of DGB / Gretchen.


On a side note. I recently finished a game where A50 replaced scum. A50 didn't really do anything in the game and just claimed to have joine dto fill the spot. It's to my understanding that this may be a re occuring pattern as scum but I haven't seen anything to back this.
This is the Solon spot so I'm not saying to go here at all today, I just want this note taken for future days.
I do think A50 should be placing a vote down somewhere though, since Solon only voted Clidd because of a theroy.

[clidd]

One thought that came to my mind, btw, is the fact that Solon had an approximate period of 6 days of inactivity and received no prod.

I suppose that N_M could have just forgotten, but an interesting theory was if Solon was posting on some PT but not in the main chat and N_M was under the illusion that Solon was active and not needing a prod.

This is disgusting

VOTE: Clidd

@mod

can you confirm why I wasn’t prodded?

@Vfp

What do you think about this reaction?

[VFP]

@Vfp

What do you think about this reaction?

Personally I don't think what you said crossed any line, even though it had nothing to stand on as a whole.
The way I see it though, Solon was ill and this probably had affect on the reaction. That or Solon thinks that this was just a general dirty tactic.
It has nothing to do with their alignment though without a follow up.

I just think it's a wasted vote, and want A50 to either given a reason to keeping it or attempt to move else where.

[Not_Mafia]

VC 2.21

PookyTheMagicalBear (1)-

clidd

Amélie (1)-

Gretchen

DrippingGoofball (2)-

RLotus, FleaTheMagician

FleaTheMagician (1)-

DrippingGoofball

geraintm (3)-

LlamaFluff, VFP, PookyTheMagicalBear

Gretchen (1)-

Amélie

VFP (0)-

RLotus (0)-

clidd (2)-

geraintm, Almost50

LlamaFluff (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Not Voting (0)-

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to Eliminate.

Deadline is

(expired on 2021-03-29 23:59:00)

- Mar 29th 23:59 GMT

[Not_Mafia]

Prodding Gretchen.

[clidd]

@Vfp

What do you think about this reaction?

Personally I don't think what you said crossed any line, even though it had nothing to stand on as a whole.
The way I see it though, Solon was ill and this probably had affect on the reaction. That or Solon thinks that this was just a general dirty tactic.
It has nothing to do with their alignment though without a follow up.

I just think it's a wasted vote, and want A50 to either given a reason to keeping it or attempt to move else where.

Hum, fair. I agree.

[clidd]

VOTE: geraintm

E-2

[Flea The Magician]

I just felt you wouldn't want to lim outside of DGB / Gretchen.

I dont, I don't see how the two are exclusive though

[VFP]

I don't think you understand me there.
If you don't want to lim outside of DGB or Greteching then you have no concern if there is a no lim over any other player in the game. Where a no lim would be in favour to geraintm I guess.
If you are willing for a lim outside of DGB or Gretchen (be it only in particular situations) then you do favour a lim on other players over a no lim. Where a geraintm lim would be in favour to no lim.

Unless I have it wrong, it's the second one.
And it's pretty important information to know at this stage of the day.

[Flea The Magician]

I am willing to hammer to prevent a nolim, always.

[geraintm]

Weekend.
Catching up and that was unexpected. Well not too much I guess as I always seem to face a "geraint is useless" wagon at some point.
I'm not sure what i can say to push people off me now, as it feels like the older players who couldn't get a wagon over the line combined with some new blood have decided I'm the elimination for today.
There won't be a claim coming from me if anyone is expecting one, I dont have anything.
What do people expect me to do now, fake a bunch of reads to appear more active?

[Flea The Magician]

Weekend.
Catching up and that was unexpected. Well not too much I guess as I always seem to face a "geraint is useless" wagon at some point.
I'm not sure what i can say to push people off me now, as it feels like the older players who couldn't get a wagon over the line combined with some new blood have decided I'm the elimination for today.
There won't be a claim coming from me if anyone is expecting one, I dont have anything.
What do people expect me to do now, fake a bunch of reads to appear more active?

Probably, annoys the hell outta me because you're town imo.

[LlamaFluff]

Weekend.
Catching up and that was unexpected. Well not too much I guess as I always seem to face a "geraint is useless" wagon at some point.
I'm not sure what i can say to push people off me now, as it feels like the older players who couldn't get a wagon over the line combined with some new blood have decided I'm the elimination for today.
There won't be a claim coming from me if anyone is expecting one, I dont have anything.
What do people expect me to do now, fake a bunch of reads to appear more active?

You should vote Flea or DGB then. Thats the only way you might not go today.

[geraintm]

Weekend.
Catching up and that was unexpected. Well not too much I guess as I always seem to face a "geraint is useless" wagon at some point.
I'm not sure what i can say to push people off me now, as it feels like the older players who couldn't get a wagon over the line combined with some new blood have decided I'm the elimination for today.
There won't be a claim coming from me if anyone is expecting one, I dont have anything.
What do people expect me to do now, fake a bunch of reads to appear more active?

You should vote Flea or DGB then. Thats the only way you might not go today.

VOTE: dgb I know eliminating me is bad. There is zero way dgb can be allowed to survive that much longer in the game, no one else seems to really want clidd gone (but I stand by circling back to that tomorrow once we know more) so I guess this is the best thing to do.

[DrippingGoofball]

I continue to believe gera is town.

[LlamaFluff]

Ugh I hate all of this. I think DGB and Gera are town now (the amount I hate how much VPF/Clidd are both on Gera is high)... but I think this becomes a more correct move

Vote DGB

If this is scum I think we are in good shape. If this is town I still think there is a ton of information to come from it.

[LlamaFluff]

If A50 doesnt get caught up and post reads, etc by end of the day too, thats a scumtell.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: A50

[DrippingGoofball]

Pooky may very well be scum. Remember that.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no 0 chance im scum

[LlamaFluff]

Pooky may very well be scum. Remember that.

Its just low. If I had to start just ranking town they probably would be my third or fourth most likely (based on mood at the time) pick to be town. Not discounting it though if you are town.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ugh I hate all of this. I think DGB and Gera are town now (the amount I hate how much VPF/Clidd are both on Gera is high)... but I think this becomes a more correct move

Vote DGB

If this is scum I think we are in good shape. If this is town I still think there is a ton of information to come from it.

lol this vote flop after gera gets close is shady af