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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:47 am

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Your claim literally could have been Artie Nielson, _____ miller and we would have moved onto the rest of your play dude, instead we've had to pull teeth across like 3 pages to get a 3/4 word claim and still don't have it which is absurd
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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:48 am

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In post 4171, MathBlade wrote:Can someone explain why they’re townreading Prism besides the weird power interactions?
mastina cased him
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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:49 am

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In post 46, Prism wrote:
In post 43, MathBlade wrote:So you’re saying you don’t want to out negative abilities that exist in order to protect a flavor claim which is almost always NAI?
Have you read the sample PMs?

Not mechanically discussing the artifact, take it up with bork.
In post 47, MathBlade wrote:
In post 46, Prism wrote:
In post 43, MathBlade wrote:So you’re saying you don’t want to out negative abilities that exist in order to protect a flavor claim which is almost always NAI?
Have you read the sample PMs?

Not mechanically discussing the artifact, take it up with bork.
Reread them and I fail to see anything special.

If flavor is alignment indicative then scum would receive fake claims.
If flavor is not alignment indicative then why does this matter?

I just don’t see what you’re doing here.
See here’s the issue I have.

It’s confirmed scum have fake claims.

Assuming Bork is guilty then I think my initial FoS was correct.

Prism was early on Mastina and fits for VCA.

It could have easily been what was passed to Bork for N0.

We know that depending upon what artifacts Bork does or doesn’t flip with we know whether or not what Prism passed Bork has or not.

If Bork doesn’t flip with it then either Prism has it and lied or scum passed it on again (why useless artifact).
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:49 am

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Everyone can trash their reasons for townreading me, I give full permission because it's probably bad, the actual reason I'm town is I let yesterday happen when I am a relentless perfectionist/complete control freak as scum and that was 100% preventable
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:50 am

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what would actually be potentially useful today is to get everyone voting for me to give an actual game-related reason for doing so, which can be evaluated tomorrow. there are lots of players coasting, and a decent probability scum is in the cohort who knows it's a free mis-elim today, but good to pin them down to some justification for voting/not voting. otherwise there is a risk tomorrow some lurker-scum say "you idiots, why did you elim BM?" :lol:
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:50 am

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In post 4176, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4171, MathBlade wrote:Can someone explain why they’re townreading Prism besides the weird power interactions?
mastina cased him
So? Both wagons were scum.

Distancing is a thing.

Mastina spent more time on Prism than Cakez.
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:50 am

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exactly. implies she wanted to use momentum off a cake scum flip to get prism dead on d2
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:50 am

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In post 4177, MathBlade wrote:If Bork doesn’t flip with it then either Prism has it and lied or scum passed it on again (why useless artifact).
??? or he used it lmao
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:51 am

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In post 4176, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4171, MathBlade wrote:Can someone explain why they’re townreading Prism besides the weird power interactions?
mastina cased him
is there precedent for mastina-scum doing that on a teammate?
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:52 am

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um unless u think mastinas plan was flip scum cake d1 and then scum prism d2 ?
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:52 am

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In post 4182, Prism wrote:
In post 4177, MathBlade wrote:If Bork doesn’t flip with it then either Prism has it and lied or scum passed it on again (why useless artifact).
??? or he used it lmao
Except the masons were shot and didn’t complain about it being used?

And it doesn’t say if artifacts aren’t listed if they are used?
It could flip artifact blah blah used.
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 4181, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:exactly. implies she wanted to use momentum off a cake scum flip to get prism dead on d2
would it be fair to say that you look quite rosy coming off a, not predictable, cakez flip? by design?
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:53 am

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not unpredictable* :lol:
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 4184, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:um unless u think mastinas plan was flip scum cake d1 and then scum prism d2 ?
No. I think her plan was bad bus for cred later if Prism is scum.

She and I have talked scum games a lot because when she mods I draw scum is a thing.

So she knows that’s a good plan when scum are in trouble and you want to die.
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:53 am

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1. N3 existed

2. It was double novice and actually couldn't be used until N3 lmao

I was annoyed by the term since N0 was a thing but N3 was the first night possible
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:54 am

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In post 4185, MathBlade wrote:And it doesn’t say if artifacts aren’t listed if they are used?
It could flip artifact blah blah used.
My working assumption has been it only gives current artifact possession
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:55 am

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In post 3935, penguin_alien wrote:
The day dawned with a slow lightening of the sky. Overcast and gloomy, a stiff breeze woke the sleeping crowd. Well, those still able to awaken.

Another morning, another statue; this one positioned next to Abigail Chow. "Who would hurt her?" "She made the best cookies!" "How can you think of cookies at a time like this?!?"

Trailer loped up to the diminished (and possibly famished) crowd with a doggy grin stretched wide around a golden...stick? When one of the people tried to grab it to play a game of fetch, Trailer growled lightly and galumped off several yards. He quickly dug a shallow hole and partially buried the stick, some gold still glinting through the dirt. Then he barked, a clear order. No one was getting this stick until an agreement was reached for the recipient.

Hopefully there would still be time for other play with Trailer. Fetch, roll over, shake. Maybe someone would even play dead before the sun set.


Bell, Leena, aligned with Town,
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:55 am

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Yep wording is "in possession of no artifacts", and LLD only flipped with comb
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:56 am

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Spiffeh poisoned bork with another artifact, nothing to do with Snowglobe
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:57 am

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who stopped tammy from talking?
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:58 am

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Yeah so Bork could pass it on as a valid way not to show up.

Just wondering if scum would risk the negative effect you mentioned to use it to stop ineffective masons.

I don’t think so so I think Bork would still have it.
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:59 am

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In post 4194, Battle Mage wrote:who stopped tammy from talking?
Who stopped you from answering the question for your entire role?
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:59 am

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I mean he might, I'm just saying him flipping without it absolutely does not mean I am mafia, it means it's passed or was used N3
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:02 am

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Can you look up and paraphrase the description again?
Look and see what happens if the user lacks a PT?
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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:12 am

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Target player beginning N3

Power: If player is in a PT, cannot post in any of them for the next
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Negative effect: Exactly the same as above but for yourself the following
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