Open 808: The Council Has Spoken


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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:21 am

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VOTE: Nono

I can also do Artem, but nobody's voting her

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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:27 am

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Now this is what I like to call deadline-induced-anxiety-driven-productivity

Not exactly sold on Arte but I'll do nono I guess
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:29 am

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I don't want enchant as much anymore UNVOTE:
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:36 am

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I have no problems with Art.

I guess I could join the Nono wagon but my only problem with them is inactivity which is something that could change for D2.

That leaves Almost50, yessiree, moz, maybe enchant but I'm less convinced.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:37 am

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VOTE: Yessiree
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:54 am

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You vote someone in office and the first thing they do is cut your healthcare benefits

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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:05 am

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A bit less than 3 days, but atleast council choosed.

Who i want to kill is hard question. Assuming all Council is townie (which is too very good to believe i want say), that's like 2/5 chance mafia eat elim. Of course, i am out of calculation in this.

I will think about it, just can say about Nono: He probably will continue being nonactive/imitate so. Not sure if we really should kill him for this though. Like... I want. But is this will be worth it? How possible he is mafia?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:17 am

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Well. You refused Artemiana because she scumlooking. But not enough to kill? Well.

Artemiana, who you want to kill this day?
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:00 am

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In post 440, Almost50 wrote:
In post 435, mozamis wrote:I could go for BM/Raya/moz Bm/Raya/Tbone
In post 437, Enchant wrote:Honestly, like idea with BM/Raya/T-Bone.
In post 438, T-Bone wrote:
In post 424, Almost50 wrote:Any chance of a quick compromise on the council? I will take Raya in if you guys drop one of BM/Artem. My fear is we "might" be making BOTH Scum unkillable today, which would mean we are killing Town regardless after we finalize the council as it is.

I won't even dictate and alternative. Just pick one of Moz/T-B/yes and place them in one of BM/Artem spots.
I'll compromise with you. I've made my stance on wanting to be on the council clear, I'm flexible with whom I can be on it with. What do you want?
Well then..

HEAL: BM/Raya/T-Bone
In post 441, yessiree wrote:UNVOTE:

HEAL: BM/Raya/T-B

BM will probably come back and hammer the top council anyways, oh wells
In post 443, Raya36 wrote:I don't like it but we need to make a decision so we can start thinking about the elimination

HEAL: Raya, BM, TBone
In post 445, T-Bone wrote:HEAL: : Raya36, Battle Mage, T-Bone
erm, that escalated quickly and out of nowhere... catching up now
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:03 am

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If I were being honest, I think I want you shot the most, enchant.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:05 am

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In post 450, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Nono

I can also do Artem, but nobody's voting her
Mmm...

Why do you do this?

Like...

You start off passive aggressive and then out of no where it's like OH NO, NONONO PLZPLZPLZ

OLZPLZPLZ LETS DO SOMETHING ELSE!

Why do you continue to play the woe is me card? Even when you went against the council you thought BM and I were both scum which is pretty ridiculous imo. Considering you successfully kicked me off, I would imagine you have the capacity to push this much harder?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:06 am

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BM, thoughts on monkeeman?
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:10 am

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I think if monkee flips red, moz and yessus should be cleared at any point in the game
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:18 am

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VOTE: A50
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:38 am

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In post 461, Artemiana wrote:BM, thoughts on monkeeman?
pretty whack. A50 was the instigator for the last minute change to swap you for T-Bone...which the player voted for despite allegedly thinking I'm scum. The way that wagon steamrolled through didn't look great, although lots of info for later which is good.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:50 am

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I've read 3 completed Nono games, and...none of them are remotely similar to the play here (as either alignment). So meta isn't key to solving. Generally I think posts here resonate as town, with the exception of the bold bits in this one:
In post 347, Nono wrote:can get aboard with cow, art, wolf,, seems solid, to me)
cow is happy and helpful, art is sharp, wolf feels more natural than last game
mozami, despite playstyle, leaning town
i'll be a council member, if you trust me kek,, if not, will heal townreads,, that's fine with me


quick dash need to go out,, make comments when i get back
permission to heal?
which just seem a bit nervous and awkward.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:00 am

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In post 430, yessiree wrote:
In post 425, Raya36 wrote:I personally don't agree with switching out who's in the council. I think if we made a plan we should stick with it and I don't agree that BM and Artemiana are both scum
remember when I said we'll cross that bridge when we come to it? well, we're crossing that bridge now
In post 441, yessiree wrote:UNVOTE:

HEAL: BM/Raya/T-B

BM will probably come back and hammer the top council anyways, oh wells
I don't understand this. A50 gave a rationale for the change (albeit, not a good one) but yessiree just cryptically sheeped it without explanation - despite townreading Arte who got cut, and scumreading and actually voting to elim TBone who got added. Nonetheless, a rueful comment at the end that I might hammer a wagon which, on yessiree's expressed reads, would have been preferable.

My current thinking is I could see both scum within Yessiree-A50-TBone.

VOTE: Yessiree
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:05 am

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In post 449, yessiree wrote:
In post 447, T-Bone wrote:
In post 441, yessiree wrote:UNVOTE:

HEAL: BM/Raya/T-B

BM will probably come back and hammer the top council anyways, oh wells
I get that we are closing in on the deadline. With that said...

I'm supposedly your top scumread. Any scum on the Council makes it functionally useless. So...?
It was an early day 1 read. And I drew it mostly from the awkward thought speghetti of mozzyman and I thought there was some sort of scum theatre going on with the way you reacted. Not married to that idea anymore.
But you pointedly left a large wagon which included Artemiana who you claimed to townread, to join a smaller wagon which included a player you had, to some extent, scumread - even the above doesn't explain the total U-turn in opinion which your voting implies.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:31 am

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I think Enchant and Artemiana look pretty good - Enchant seems to be genuinely solving for themselves, rather than just following the herd - I liked the meta assessment on me and the inferences about interactions which were low key but logical. Artemiana, it's mainly a gut feeling thing, but I'm never looking to elim there today. Raya has talked sense throughout and reacted in a credible town way to that wagon shenanigans. Mozamis has grown on me - it felt like a fairly easy scumplay to just OMGUS me, but going to the other extreme of townreading me for attacking the player rings as town. Also moving T-Bone down to lean-scum because he called out Yessiree for the inconsistency.

Which means something like:

Town: Artemiana, Enchant
Leantown: Raya, NoNo,
Slimtown: Mozamis
Leanscum: T-Bone
Scumpool: Almost50, Yessiree

I'd elim A50 today, but preference is Yessiree.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:44 am

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Fuck me. W/e
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:46 am

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VOTE: yessiree
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:48 am

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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:53 am

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I'm ok with yessiree. My second choice is almost50. I'll go there for now

VOTE: Almost50
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:59 am

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In post 469, Artemiana wrote:Fuck me. W/e
it's probably worth noting this was preceded by an altslip which was then deleted - otherwise looks a bit odd out of context.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:03 pm

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I was asked to delete the alt slip not the ensuing post
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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