loool you have no idea how much i was panicking late day 2 when the wagons started shifting from midway onto dunn, with neither me or green being positioned to bus, and knowing that at any time your old scumread of dunn could've showed upIn post 3470, VP Baltar wrote:Fucking andres and the dunn hate! Even I talked myself out of it after awhile dammit.
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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Gypyx
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My reads were trash, again. No one can town read me, again.In post 3458, Dunnstral wrote:
This game wasn't your fault. The town power roles imploded - The neapolitan and loyal roaming Doctor did, which left the voyeur uselessIn post 3446, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am so, so heartbroken I f'd up my last game.
I am sorry, everyone.
A lot of players had really bad (accuracy-wise) readsParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Fwiw, I was only super convinced you had to be scum because Datisi and Dunn didn't hammer me. It was like 12 hours and I was still alive. It only made senseIn post 3479, DrippingGoofball wrote:
My reads were trash, again. No one can town read me, again.In post 3458, Dunnstral wrote:
This game wasn't your fault. The town power roles imploded - The neapolitan and loyal roaming Doctor did, which left the voyeur uselessIn post 3446, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am so, so heartbroken I f'd up my last game.
I am sorry, everyone.
A lot of players had really bad (accuracy-wise) readsYOUR AD HERE- Dunnstral
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oh, both of my teammates came out of the gates pushing me and they voted me to e-1... your head was in the right placeAndresvmb wrote:UGH WHY did I fight the Dunn kill. It’s the same trick I fell for in the Large Normal against NotMafia. And it cost the Town there for a bit but I had the time at least in that game to right the ship and really help seal it. And here it might cost us the game.- VP Baltar
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The hard thing is that site meta has really shifted away from ever yeeting lurkers.In post 3475, Datisi wrote:
loool you have no idea how much i was panicking late day 2 when the wagons started shifting from midway onto dunn, with neither me or green being positioned to bus, and knowing that at any time your old scumread of dunn could've showed upIn post 3470, VP Baltar wrote:Fucking andres and the dunn hate! Even I talked myself out of it after awhile dammit.
People kept being like "what's the dunn case?" and I couldn't really make one because it was just about his D1 lurking! He would have been a good D1 yeet regardless of alignment. Instead I compromised with a scumYOUR AD HERE- OutWorldER
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Night Actions:
Night 1:
Datisi kills Reformed Toxic Player
Green Crayons neighborizes Datisi
maxwell Voyeurs Datisi
Cookie Monster protects Andresvmb
Night 2:
maxwell voyeurs Andresvmb
Datisi kills Cookie Monster
Green Crayons neighorizes Momrangal
Night 3:
Dunnstral kills Maxwell
maxwell Voyeurs Dunnstral
Night 4:
Dunnstral kills Andresvmb
So the setup was made for low-swing, low-power, while giving scum an avenue of manipulation via the Neighborizer. It definitely worked on the low-power end, and I liked the high emphasis on Day-play. The swing part was kinda eh? It definitely did swing a bit and I think that can mostly be attributed to the fact that Nea's death was just demoralizing (which was not helping when combined with the 1000 replacements).
I think maybe a counter of some sort to the neighborizer that didn't require two roles working in unison might've been called for, because Scum pulled a sneaky one and neighborized one of their buddies, which added a bit of WIFOM into the mix. But I'll wait for the reviewers to get here (if they get here) before I make any balance calls like that.- VP Baltar
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I wish I could have stayed caught up, following along after I thrw in the towel was frustrating as hell haha. I realized I was barking up the wrong tree with VP and needed to be back on GC but I didn't have the energy or time to commit to this game that I would have needed to pull that off without looking like shit and having to deal with the fallout of that. I got overwhelmed thinking about how much work I had to catch up on re:GC if I wanted to actually do something with my case, and I was already having a hard time keeping up. I wish I didnt grant him the space he requested when I did, and I wish uhthatdidn't happen to my slot afterwards, but this was fun and I'll definitely play Duchess again when I have the time and the mental fortitude. well played scum!- VP Baltar
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bulge!! ahaha are you seriousI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- VP Baltar
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i died n1 you are correctIn post 3460, Datisi wrote:yeah, town's main sources of power just kinda... died.
that said, this game took 5 years off my life jesus christGTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
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i can imagine how this game might have gone differently had italiano never self hammered d1GTKAS MS 20th Anniversary game now taking pre-ins!(DM me)
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I wouldn’t say this. My conclusion from this game isn’t that the Town couldn’t get anything going. Executing Green Crayons is definitely
something. My conclusion is that Town needed to more quickly realize that when the game was going wrong, and the leading voices were leading us there, that we needed to be more self-critical and re-evaluate and re-read more. I had a hard time trying to navigate that myself, and I think a lot of us needed to do more of that.
I also want to congratulate the Scum Team who played well. I wouldn’t blame the loss even mostly on imploding PRs (I wouldn’t call what happened with Italiano that), but just on better play by Scum and bad play by Town. I think the RLotus execution was just... bad. And I’m responsible for that in a big way.- Andresvmb
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there was a reason why you were the only choice for the nightkill last night hahaI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M - Datisi
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