newbie 2060: creatures, game ofer

[WhemeStar]

Why would I vote him in the first place then if I was scum?

[WhemeStar]

What your saying makes no sense if I’m scum.

[WhemeStar]

I randomly vote someone to get a wagon going and then immediately unvote as scum and then I try to shy away from my random vote?

Why do I need to defend/shy away a random vote

[WhemeStar]

Obvious scum tactic to protect yourself after shying away from the vote

Literally every alignment gives a reason to unvote this is NAI

[Clasko]

tbh, Clasko, I think you're townreading way too easily.

Yup, hence why I labelled them leans instead of reads.

[Saudade]

No no no........................!
it's the need to state the obvious that pinged me

I'm sleepy and will elaborate further tomorrow, but take into account that she's a newbie. Her posts don't yet strike me as needing-to-state-the-obvious (filler?) in a scummy way.

No but this tell was usually what newbies fell for while the veteran gods (me) knew to avoid it

If Ivyeo is not an experienced player, I can see stating things in a more-than-necessary clear way as expected. Ivyeo, what's your experience with mafia?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Saudade]

VOTE: Endlessdark

good vote

[Saudade]

Ivy is a strong townread for me

mod could you please add day timers to vote counts

followe by a bad bad statement

[Saudade]

wtf u strong townreading someone on page 4 for

[Saudade]

Demainer your posts irk me

[WhemeStar]

It’s just the vibes man

[WhemeStar]

Demainer your posts irk me

They irk me too but I don’t know if it’s OMGUS bias that makes me feel that way.

[Lukewarm]

I don’t like how you are set on me being the flip on page 5

Yes its page 5 (well 6 now), but we are also on the 6th irl day for our in game Day 1. Maybe I am just not accustomed to the pacing of games on this site, but it feels like we are approaching the point where we just have to pick someone. Like there is only so much info we can really gain in day 1 until we force someone to claim, no?

I am getting pretty antsy for us to l-1 someone just so we can gain new info. Force someone to claim their role, then decide if we want to actually hammer the person based on what they claim. I mean if we wait to much longer, then if we L-1 someone, and decide we shouldn't hammer them, we won't even have long to form a new wagon.

I am not necessarily saying that I think it needs to be you, I would be happy for us to L-1 anyone on my scumread list tbh, so for now, I am gonna be on the biggest wagon between Whemestar, Ivyeo and Clasko.

VOTE: Ivyeo because I have sat on the Whemestar wagon for a while, and the Ivyeo wagon is the same size, so might as well mix it up lol

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Lukewarm

[Demainer]

I don't understand why we need role claims so early in the game, it's only going to hurt town? Unless there are special mechanics in this setup I'm not aware of.

Not getting town vibes from that recent post.

[WhemeStar]

I don't understand why we need role claims so early in the game, it's only going to hurt town? Unless there are special mechanics in this setup I'm not aware of.

Not getting town vibes from that recent post.

That’s why I voted them

[Egix96]

I don't understand why we need role claims so early in the game, it's only going to hurt town?

The rule of thumb is to only claim when you are on the verge of being majjed.

The part I specifically take issue with is this:

I am not necessarily saying that I think it needs to be you, I would be happy for us to L-1 anyone on my scumread list tbh, so for now, I am gonna be on the biggest wagon between Whemestar, Ivyeo and Clasko.

Those three names can't all be scum at once, so Luke, do you think any of them are particularly more likely to be scum than the others?

[Ivyeo]

I don’t like how you are set on me being the flip on page 5

Yes its page 5 (well 6 now), but we are also on the 6th irl day for our in game Day 1. Maybe I am just not accustomed to the pacing of games on this site, but it feels like we are approaching the point where we just have to pick someone. Like there is only so much info we can really gain in day 1 until we force someone to claim, no?

I am getting pretty antsy for us to l-1 someone just so we can gain new info. Force someone to claim their role, then decide if we want to actually hammer the person based on what they claim. I mean if we wait to much longer, then if we L-1 someone, and decide we shouldn't hammer them, we won't even have long to form a new wagon.

I am not necessarily saying that I think it needs to be you, I would be happy for us to L-1 anyone on my scumread list tbh, so for now, I am gonna be on the biggest wagon between Whemestar, Ivyeo and Clasko.

VOTE: Ivyeo because I have sat on the Whemestar wagon for a while, and the Ivyeo wagon is the same size, so might as well mix it up lol

Do you not have preferences between the three of us? Your post makes it seem as though you just want to eliminate someone rather than anyone in specific, and you gave the three names that town appears to be most willing to eliminate right now.

[Lukewarm]

I don't understand why we need role claims so early in the game, it's only going to hurt town? Unless there are special mechanics in this setup I'm not aware of.

No, I do not want multiple people to claim their roles, but I do think that it is important that we vote someone before the day is over, but there are quite a few steps to get us from here to there.

First we L-1 the person we most suspect to be scum, at which point that person (

and only that person

), should claim their role. Then we either hammer that person, or if their claim causes us to rethink the vote, we have to target someone else.

To me (and again, it might just be a different pacing on this site then what I am used to) it seems like we have hit a point where we are just treading water, and at some point we need to pick a direction to go. I don't want us to tread water so long that we don't have time to go through all of the steps, especially if we decide to rethink the vote.

[Lukewarm]

Those three names can't all be scum at once, so Luke, do you think any of them are particularly more likely to be scum than the others?

Do you not have preferences between the three of us? Your post makes it seem as though you just want to eliminate someone rather than anyone in specific, and you gave the three names that town appears to be most willing to eliminate right now.

My first preference was Whemestar, which is why I had a vote against him for the last 4 days, but it feels like that wagon was not gaining any steam.

I feel like a no-lynch day 1 is more detrimental to town then a mislynch would be, due the the deprivation of information. So, if I cannot convince the rest of town to L-1 Whemestar, I would settle for one of the others.

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: Wheme

[Lukewarm]

Not getting town vibes from that recent post.

You might be reading a bit of impatience as summiness to be honest.

In the past, I have played Mafia in a Discord server, and I hardly ever saw day 1 last longer then 3 days IRL, and never longer then 4. Here we are on day 6 irl and there is no sign of anyone reaching L-1 any time soon lol

This is my first game on this site, which is why I keep saying it might just be difference in pace between sites.

[Ivyeo]

I don't understand why we need role claims so early in the game, it's only going to hurt town? Unless there are special mechanics in this setup I'm not aware of.

No, I do not want multiple people to claim their roles, but I do think that it is important that we vote someone before the day is over, but there are quite a few steps to get us from here to there.

First we L-1 the person we most suspect to be scum, at which point that person (

and only that person

), should claim their role. Then we either hammer that person, or if their claim causes us to rethink the vote, we have to target someone else.

To me (and again, it might just be a different pacing on this site then what I am used to) it seems like we have hit a point where we are just treading water, and at some point we need to pick a direction to go. I don't want us to tread water so long that we don't have time to go through all of the steps, especially if we decide to rethink the vote.

We still have 3 days, is that not enough time to retread the vote? You act as though we're on last day. You also still haven't answered if you have a preference between the two current wagons.

[Ivyeo]

UNVOTE:
Actually on second thought, I want to hear more form Luke here first before placing my vote

[Ivyeo]

Oh wait, you did specify a preference, I missed that