Micro 1003: Divide and Conquer - Game Over!

[Bingle]

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[Bingle]

Wait why can’t vanders be scum with bingle?

bingle knows the mech and wouldnt throw vander into the more important scum slot

I mean... I might. I did fakeclaim vig in a micro cause I got bored, which is what I was referencing.

[Bingle]

The fundamental question is “does infinity!scum take the risk of trying to paranoia/WIFOM everyone on skitter/bingle being in together, or not?”

If she does I think it's because she thinks she's a sacrificial lamb and her partner is expected to carry.

[Bingle]

My theory is that the hood distribution proves we have a ballsy player that wants to take on the big league and prove themselves in the small hood, and a more clever deepwolf that will be trying to sound town, harmless, and pocket town in the bigger hood.
Small hood is for the powerful bruiser, big hood for the long-living wolf.

Long story short is that i more or less townread other slots in the 6p group and i think Vanderscamp's not really towntold yet and could therefore be scum just faking mediocre content.

Norwee, can you tell me about how these two positions mesh?

Cause I firmly agree with the gamestate read and think it heavily implies the read on Vander is wrong.

[No Face]

No Face trying to make Pooky/Bingle scumteam a thing when Bingle!Scum autoloses if Pooky!scum flips is kind of cute ngl :3

No Face said that before Bingle was suspicious of Pooky's words or voted for him, No Face isn't a time traveler...

This is very strange Pooky :D

[Infinity 324]

Norwee, can you tell me about how these two positions mesh?

Cause I firmly agree with the gamestate read and think it heavily implies the read on Vander is wrong.

This is a relatively towny post

[Vanderscamp]

The main face for Infinity being mafia is because it's weird for mafia skitter or Bingle to put her in the group of 3 when she feels more like a group of 6 player, since she is more likely to be wrongfully eliminated by the other players when she is town, more often that players like Menalque or Pooky. Mafia needs to put all the players that can sometimes look like mafia as town in the group of 6 because that is the one that matters. This is why I think skitter is more likely to be town, because she could blend in well in the group of 6 so she only puts herself in group of 3 if she doesn't really want to play as mafia for too long.

I can see mafia Infinity putting herself with 2 strong players and coming out swinging. The words are possibly written.

Bingle seems to be playing quite safely, like he's in a safe :O

I have the opposite opinion, I think it would be weird for mafia infinity to put two strong players into the group of three.
Also, was it public knowledge that bingle was a strong player at the start of the game?
They're jingle's alt apparently, but was that already known?

And I don't agree that you don't want any easier mislynches in the small pool.
Why not just put a couple of hard to lynch players in the big pool and then NK them?
The pool of three is harder to survive in but it's not like getting mislynches there doesn't matter, which is my biggest issue with infinity being scum here if all this meta stuff is correct.

[Vanderscamp]

This feels like one night stand, I'm very far out of my scumrange but people feel like SRing me anyway

So now that you are "very far" out of your scumrange and not just probably, even if you are very not self aware, can you explain exactly why?

[Vanderscamp]

This feels like one night stand, I'm very far out of my scumrange but people feel like SRing me anyway

I think bingle is the scum of the small group

[Vanderscamp]

Sorry, not aiming to quote this stuff.

What's the method for preventing multiquotes?

[Ydrasse]

(no face, mena)
(vanders, norwee)
(skitter)
(infinity, bingle)
(pooky)

guys im doing it im solving

[Bingle]

Also, was it public knowledge that bingle was a strong player at the start of the game?
They're jingle's alt apparently, but was that already known?

All of Pooky/Skitter/Mena knew for sure. No Face seems familiar enough with me that they're probably in that group too.
Norwee/Y/Infinity knowing would not be a terrible assumption, but it's not a safe one either. That's roughly the order for likeness of awareness.

FWIW, Jingle is my modding account and this is my playing mafia account. I almost exclusively play mafia on this account and the two are publicly linked, so it's not unreasonable that anyone would know the link.

[Ydrasse]

vanders, to answer you from earlier: i've played with you before on an alt in underage gun control, and i very much think you sound different from there compared to here, so much so that i am willing to not reconsider this read right now, or probably the near future

[Vanderscamp]

Test

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No Face trying to make Pooky/Bingle scumteam a thing when Bingle!Scum autoloses if Pooky!scum flips is kind of cute ngl :3

No Face said that before Bingle was suspicious of Pooky's words or voted for him, No Face isn't a time traveler...

This is very strange Pooky

This isn't true No Face

[No Face]

Can you show No Face where? **

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Well I guess if you never read bingle's posts because he's your partner that would explain things :3

[Vanderscamp]

I'm wondering why scum!jingle put skitter in the 3p hood and then argued for a plan specifically involving wanting to keep skitt alive? He obviously was aware that skitt can be a threat, so it seems odd

In the future if someone doesn't like a PoE vote that I make, questioning my TRs is much more useful than questioning the vote itself

PEdit: ok but you're hectic

I think this is also a fairly unnecessary point to bring up if infinity is mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm going to sleep

night infinity! we shall continue our bickering on the morrow

Pooky.

ok interesting take, why?

FMPOV: 50% of the time you are scum. You know that scum in the small pool cannot be the endgame scum, therefore your partner is likely high tier. I would wager a very significant portion of the time, Infinity's team would also be aware of this restriction. That implies that the scum in the other pool is someone who can be trusted to pull a game by themselves. Of the names I recognize, Pooky and Mena best fit that bill with an outside chance of HecticAlt. Mena/You doesn't look S/S. Pooky and you have a disproportionate likelihood of being grouped if unaligned.

All of that is circumstantial evidence that points to Pooky having a higher likelihood of being scum than anyone else. Also, if I flip PookyTown, you become significantly more likely to be town imo, which is helpful for solving the you/infinity 1v1 later.

[Vanderscamp]

I’m not meta diving, i just remember.

Hm. What do you think about the fact that your characterization is not only 100% accurate, but actually the reason I lost in a game that I linked in the neighborhood that just so happens to have scum in it 100% of the time?

Was nor in that game?

[No Face]

Bingle and Pooky or Vanders :)

No Face said this before Bingle but it's unlikely to affect his willingness to distance anyway face thinks :7

[Bingle]

No, Pooky was though. The tinfoil was that Nor's scumpartner could have shared the links with him. It's a pretty out there theory, and I liked Nor's casual dismissal of it though.

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=85019
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=84842

for reference.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Face thinks Bingle is trying to javelin throw game by killing his partner on d1? ; )

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No, Pooky was though. The tinfoil was that Nor's scumpartner could have shared the links with him. It's a pretty out there theory, and I liked Nor's casual dismissal of it though.

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=85019
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=84842

for reference.

uh I can't be norwee's scum partner from your POV because we're in the same hood

[Bingle]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=85019
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=84842

The second is the one with the vig claim, sorry the links got eaten.