Micro 1003: Divide and Conquer - Game Over!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You're also not letting new information affect your decision but have instead decided to go with the "bingle is trying to javelin-throw lose the game immediately on d1" interpretation of events...

No I'm not saying that at all D:

No Face isn't saying the Bingle and Pooky are a team read because of interactions

It just so happens that Pooky is my lowest read in the group of 6 and Bingle is my lowest read in the group of 3

yes I know this is what you will have to go with to get the people who susp bingle to vote me because otherwise they wouldn't be able to fit bingle scum into a pooky scum world

[No Face]

Why would No Face neeeed to vote you? You're leading me into a trap with this team logic theory... :p

[Infinity 324]

I am nicer in a nicer player pool and meaner in a meaner player pool :>

I am like a mirror ^_^

:)

Except you still were mean to scum in ss3, don't remember how long it took you to get there though.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well you need miselims to win the game,

that's how it works?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Except you still were mean to scum in ss3, don't remember how long it took you to get there though.

Dunn was mean to me first >.>

[Infinity 324]

Fair enough

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I could never be mean to my soul mason it would be like being mean to myself :O

also that one time I was mean to him he died and was town and I never got over it :<

[Ydrasse]

im obvtown btw

Great, why?

read me iso

No, I want your take.

My take is that you're not at all obvtown.

you lack familiarity w me, but i'm fairly unable to play like this and keep pace as scum, takes longer, my logic is a lot worse and seen through, more frustration/ate probably, etc, no face pointed out that i quite simply do not Give a fuck, or didnt, but then i started having fun doing things so now i am, and now im town for everyone to see

i soulread no face as town, btw

he's using the same sort of thought processes/logic that he always does as town

Maybe I'm more hesitant to trust this than I should be. Have you correctly scumread him in the past?

PEdit: pooky I know you're friendly as both alignments but "friendly" isn't usually the only word I'd use to describe your play in a towngame. I know you have a big townrange though

uhhhhhh no, i haven't actually played w scum!him that i recall, but... i have a lot of familiarity with his town and there's a certain logic behind the way he thinks about things in games that i'm like... finding it very, very easy to trace back as "he would think this as town, i can see the ways hes connecting a to b"

even without having a scum comparison, i think i have enough faith in how i read his games that i don't need the comparison to be sure, idk, i might be getting blown out of the water but i don't think that i am because it just feels like his towngame, and i think that it's even more commendable with the slightly strange way that no face types, because despite that barrier i still find it like... easy, it's just easy to see

so ye

[No Face]

;;

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

have you caught him as scum yet?

[Ydrasse]

one day im going to, but this isnt the game i dont think :>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

actually re-reading that I think you haven't? which means you really can't say you can differentiate between the two since you don't actually have a track record for catching him when he's the red alignment?

I don't think he would be able to get nomm'd for DC if he was unable to replicate his town mindset to fit his scum play.

[No Face]

Well just a note to Pooky, this is how I form reads. If two of my scumreads or poe are unlikely to be partners with each, it's not like I'm just going to abandon them

Independentally, they are both still suspicious to me. If anything, it means I may be correct on one but not the other :(

[Ydrasse]

i dunno, i considered that, but i think especially with the gimmick there would be disconnects , albeit small ones

idk, i just feel like i really Get how he works through things and i don't know how naturally he's able to replicate it even if he is a good scum player? it's hard to explain like, how he works through things but i just Feel it

[Infinity 324]

you lack familiarity w me, but i'm fairly unable to play like this and keep pace as scum, takes longer, my logic is a lot worse and seen through, more frustration/ate probably, etc, no face pointed out that i quite simply do not Give a fuck, or didnt, but then i started having fun doing things so now i am, and now im town for everyone to see

I believe this btw

Your hectic explanation is good enough for me for now

So if pooky isn't scum it's mena? Or mayybe vander

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the goal of any scum player is to drive the agenda and replicate their town play into their scum game so that a player reading them can follow along to the conclusions they reach -> that's how a scum gets mis-elims in the first place.

You can tell this is what he is doing right now with his push on me. It's not alignment sorting - it's push to kill.

[No Face]

And yes, No Face is basically outed this game and is Hectic :D

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So if pooky isn't scum it's mena? Or mayybe vander

pls no

if you guys actually flip me pls get no face next

dont make me die in vain >.>

[No Face]

Pooky you were never even a push? I never gave good reasons or tried to get people to vote you, you were just bottom of my reads

You asked me about my read and are now trying to make it out like it is one :^

[Infinity 324]

i dunno, i considered that, but i think especially with the gimmick there would be disconnects , albeit small ones

idk, i just feel like i really Get how he works through things and i don't know how naturally he's able to replicate it even if he is a good scum player? it's hard to explain like, how he works through things but i just Feel it

I think you're probably giving this read more strength than you should, it's very easy to be biased by things like this, but it's still a good reason to TR someone

[Ydrasse]

you lack familiarity w me, but i'm fairly unable to play like this and keep pace as scum, takes longer, my logic is a lot worse and seen through, more frustration/ate probably, etc, no face pointed out that i quite simply do not Give a fuck, or didnt, but then i started having fun doing things so now i am, and now im town for everyone to see

I believe this btw

Your hectic explanation is good enough for me for now

So if pooky isn't scum it's mena? Or mayybe vander

can you explain why pooky's town to me?

i think mena is pretty solidly town from his beginning, i haven't gotten any pings there but also maybe he is a ruthless pocketer or something

vanders feels very different to underage gun control when you look at his tone

[Vanderscamp]

You're also not letting new information affect your decision but have instead decided to go with the "bingle is trying to javelin-throw lose the game immediately on d1" interpretation of events...

No I'm not saying that at all D:

No Face isn't saying the Bingle and Pooky are a team read because of interactions

It just so happens that Pooky is my lowest read in the group of 6 and Bingle is my lowest read in the group of 3

yes I know this is what you will have to go with to get the people who susp bingle to vote me because otherwise they wouldn't be able to fit bingle scum into a pooky scum world

What?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the essence of his push on me isn't "I scumread Pooky"

it's I town-read everyone else for ___, ____, ____, and _____

It leaves one person out of the equation, notably that's himself.

It's an effective strategy for pushing mis-elims on d1 because you create a coalition/support by handing out townreads to get people to help you, and you create a mutual target for everyone to go after.

It's also incredibly difficult for me to defend against because he's not actually scum-reading me for anything, so there's nothing for me to refute

then tomm after I'm flipped town he will "go back" to his townreads and "think" about where he went wrong.

[SirCakez]

bump

[Ydrasse]

i dunno, i considered that, but i think especially with the gimmick there would be disconnects , albeit small ones

idk, i just feel like i really Get how he works through things and i don't know how naturally he's able to replicate it even if he is a good scum player? it's hard to explain like, how he works through things but i just Feel it

I think you're probably giving this read more strength than you should, it's very easy to be biased by things like this, but it's still a good reason to TR someone

maybe i am but i just feel through playing a lot of games w him i've grown to just Know what his towngame is, maybe i need a scumgame to be thrown out of the saddle but for now i'm good w townreading no face