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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:01 pm

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In post 696, Menalque wrote:Literally give me one reason why pooky is actually scum?
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:01 pm

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omg READ MY POSTS I'M CASING HIS REACTIONS
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:02 pm

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No

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How are you PoEing on D1 when like multiple people in 6p aren’t out of range? How does that make any sense?
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:02 pm

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In post 689, Menalque wrote:Like literally explain to me why pooky is scum

Substantiate any actual reason for it based on his play so far
I think his case against no face is extremely weird, it just feels like a retaliation.
I don't understand why pooky thinks no face has to be scum for POEing pooky as scum and not town with an incorrect PoE. There was a comment in there that was something like "notice how no face is leaving himself out of his own suspect list" or something like that that I thought was very scummy.

I think pooky has done very little to try to solve the game, I think the only thing pooky has going for him is that he is imo blatantly not trying to look good, but this is also different from mystic bears in the coalition game where that slot was pretty obviously town.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:03 pm

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If you disagree, you should respond to the posts earlier and say why Menalque
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:03 pm

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Mena you're 0.01% to like any reason I give for a scumread. I gave some vague feelings about why I don't TR pooky here but really it's just gut. I don't think reasons that make Objective Sense™ to SR people are at all useful because scum can just think of them and avoid them
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:03 pm

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In post 702, Menalque wrote:No

Explain

How are you PoEing on D1 when like multiple people in 6p aren’t out of range? How does that make any sense?
okay then damn i'll drop a vote on u

i think you're town, no face is town, norwee is towny, vanders is probably town from meta, and literally what has pooky done that's towny?
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In the worst timeline mena is scum defending pooky knowing he's about to go down

surely that isn't our world ....
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 pm

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In post 705, Infinity 324 wrote:Mena you're 0.01% to like any reason I give for a scumread. I gave some vague feelings about why I don't TR pooky here but really it's just gut. I don't think reasons that make Objective Sense™ to SR people are at all useful because scum can just think of them and avoid them
And most importantly town does things that are Objectively Scummy™ quite often by chance
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 pm

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infinity you feel feisty this game i LIKE it
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 pm

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In post 702, Menalque wrote:No

Explain

How are you PoEing on D1 when like multiple people in 6p aren’t out of range? How does that make any sense?
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:05 pm

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none of me, no face, norwee, or vanders is notably more towny than pooky
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:05 pm

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In post 625, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 623, No Face wrote:
In post 614, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:You're also not letting new information affect your decision but have instead decided to go with the "bingle is trying to javelin-throw lose the game immediately on d1" interpretation of events...
No I'm not saying that at all D:

No Face isn't saying the Bingle and Pooky are a team read because of interactions

It just so happens that Pooky is my lowest read in the group of 6 and Bingle is my lowest read in the group of 3
yes I know this is what you will have to go with to get the people who susp bingle to vote me because otherwise they wouldn't be able to fit bingle scum into a pooky scum world ;)
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:05 pm

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he said after 4 ninjas in a row
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:05 pm

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In post 709, Ydrasse wrote:infinity you feel feisty this game i LIKE it
Lol why didn't you like it when I was pushing skitt
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:06 pm

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why are you being so stubborn about being townread

no face is, also, town. soulread as town.

vanders could be scum sure but i feel from underage that i get a different vibe and even if it's subtle it's enough to feel towny to me

and norwee i guess could be scum, sure, but he feels like he did in that normal
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:06 pm

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In post 714, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 709, Ydrasse wrote:infinity you feel feisty this game i LIKE it
Lol why didn't you like it when I was pushing skitt
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:06 pm

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In post 647, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the essence of his push on me isn't "I scumread Pooky"

it's I town-read everyone else for ___, ____, ____, and _____

It leaves one person out of the equation, notably that's himself.

It's an effective strategy for pushing mis-elims on d1 because you create a coalition/support by handing out townreads to get people to help you, and you create a mutual target for everyone to go after.

It's also incredibly difficult for me to defend against because he's not actually scum-reading me for anything, so there's nothing for me to refute

then tomm after I'm flipped town he will "go back" to his townreads and "think" about where he went wrong.
And this is all a fair analysis but as a reason for scum reading no face I think it makes no sense
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:07 pm

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In post 703, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 689, Menalque wrote:Like literally explain to me why pooky is scum

Substantiate any actual reason for it based on his play so far
I think his case against no face is extremely weird, it just feels like a retaliation.
I don't understand why pooky thinks no face has to be scum for POEing pooky as scum and not town with an incorrect PoE. There was a comment in there that was something like "notice how no face is leaving himself out of his own suspect list" or something like that that I thought was very scummy.

I think pooky has done very little to try to solve the game, I think the only thing pooky has going for him is that he is imo blatantly not trying to look good, but this is also different from mystic bears in the coalition game where that slot was pretty obviously town.
Who cares? Like if pooky wanted to fabricate a case on no face to really push him as a mislim he’d prob just come up with actual solid reasons?

And pooky hardly ever does much to try and solve the game it’s why he’s an annoyingly difficult slot to solve, but that doesn’t actually make him scum, that’s just a feature of how he plays
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:07 pm

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In post 707, Ydrasse wrote:In the worst timeline mena is scum defending pooky knowing he's about to go down

surely that isn't our world ....
It's mechanically not our world
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:07 pm

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In post 716, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 714, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 709, Ydrasse wrote:infinity you feel feisty this game i LIKE it
Lol why didn't you like it when I was pushing skitt
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Also no norwee cannot be scum here I promise
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:09 pm

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In post 718, Menalque wrote:
In post 703, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 689, Menalque wrote:Like literally explain to me why pooky is scum

Substantiate any actual reason for it based on his play so far
I think his case against no face is extremely weird, it just feels like a retaliation.
I don't understand why pooky thinks no face has to be scum for POEing pooky as scum and not town with an incorrect PoE. There was a comment in there that was something like "notice how no face is leaving himself out of his own suspect list" or something like that that I thought was very scummy.

I think pooky has done very little to try to solve the game, I think the only thing pooky has going for him is that he is imo blatantly not trying to look good, but this is also different from mystic bears in the coalition game where that slot was pretty obviously town.
Who cares? Like if pooky wanted to fabricate a case on no face to really push him as a mislim he’d prob just come up with actual solid reasons?

And pooky hardly ever does much to try and solve the game it’s why he’s an annoyingly difficult slot to solve, but that doesn’t actually make him scum, that’s just a feature of how he plays
If pooky is a player who doesn't solve games and frequently gives poor reasons for accusations, then sure, what you're saying is fair.

But I'm not reading someone giving bad reasons on a retaliated scum read as a reason to think they're town.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:10 pm

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Mena: why has he been actively townier than other slots?
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:10 pm

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In post 715, Ydrasse wrote:why are you being so stubborn about being townread

no face is, also, town. soulread as town.

vanders could be scum sure but i feel from underage that i get a different vibe and even if it's subtle it's enough to feel towny to me

and norwee i guess could be scum, sure, but he feels like he did in that normal
because i don’t think i’ve actually been particularly town so far

Or like I’m approaching this in a very similar way to how I’d approach it as scum, I guess

vanders is literally playing exactly as opportunistically as he did in UGC lmao? Like one incredibly blatant thing he did there was just put people to like E-1 or E-2 when they were viable for no reason, aka exactly what he just did to pooky here

No face is like, incredibly null off posting and that almost stretches into concerning if the hectic!alt assumption is correct

Norwee like could be scum but also could not be, he’s kind of concerningly fluffy
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:10 pm

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In post 649, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 644, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 638, Ydrasse wrote:i dunno, i considered that, but i think especially with the gimmick there would be disconnects , albeit small ones

idk, i just feel like i really Get how he works through things and i don't know how naturally he's able to replicate it even if he is a good scum player? it's hard to explain like, how he works through things but i just Feel it
I think you're probably giving this read more strength than you should, it's very easy to be biased by things like this, but it's still a good reason to TR someone
maybe i am but i just feel through playing a lot of games w him i've grown to just Know what his towngame is, maybe i need a scumgame to be thrown out of the saddle but for now i'm good w townreading no face

this is just default townreading someone all the time lol
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