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[clidd]

VC 3.07

PookyTheMagicalBear (0)-

Amélie (1)-

clidd

Flea The Magician (3)-

LlamaFluff, PookyTheMagicalBear, RLotus

(E-2)

geraintm (0)-

VFP (0)-

RLotus (0)-

clidd (3)-

geraintm, Amélie, Flea The Magician

(E-2)

LlamaFluff (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Not Voting (2)-

Almost50, VFP

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to Eliminate.

Deadline is

(expired on 2021-04-11 19:00:00)

- Apr 11th 19:00 GMT

Jesus, why is Ame with only one vote?

[Not_Mafia]

VC 3.08

PookyTheMagicalBear (0)-

Amélie (1)-

clidd

Flea The Magician (3)-

LlamaFluff, PookyTheMagicalBear, RLotus

(E-2)

geraintm (0)-

VFP (0)-

RLotus (0)-

clidd (3)-

geraintm, Amélie, Flea The Magician

(E-2)

LlamaFluff (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Not Voting (2)-

Almost50, VFP

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to Eliminate.

Deadline is

(expired on 2021-04-11 19:00:00)

- Apr 11th 19:00 GMT

[clidd]

I want a wagon on her.

@Gera @Flea

Help me buss my partner and vote on Ame.

@Vfp

Join me on Ame first, we can deal with Flea later if fea is scum.

Actually, E-2 should be enough. I want the successor to see that the slot needs to play after entering.

[Not_Mafia]

Titus replaces Amélie.

[clidd]

Well, it won't work anymore.

[clidd]

Welcome Titus.

Basically, we are in a gamestate in which two players (Pooky/A50) claimed to be PR.

Pooky said that he a VT result on Llama.

A50 said that he had a no-gun result on Rlotus.

Everyone else claimed vanilla irc.

[clidd]

Correction: Pooky said that he had*

[clidd]

Some people are suspecting Flea, who pushed a TPR elim on D2 (DGB).

And some are suspecting me.

I'm suspecting your slot.

[Flea The Magician]

Sweet, now we both get schooled on VC stuff

and I'm generally deluded, it's part of my conditions ^_^ You copping out is you copping out, doesn't matter why

[clidd]

@Flea

If you're talking about this definition: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dic ... sh/cop-out

Nop, it is not the message I'm sending.

But, yeah, we haven't finished the VCA issue yet.

[Flea The Magician]

the 3rd one.

You be scared It's fine, Titus will come in and school us both anyway if she got the spoons to.

[Flea The Magician]

But yeah why not, I like this conversation, you're unwilling/scared to put your money where your mouth is so I'll give you a free shot.

You challenged me on not looking at context around each vote. Who's vote in which count I've mentioned previously would you like me to look at and dig a lil harder in to?

[clidd]

Hum. Take a look at 339, 1253 and 1983.

[Titus]

Wow. Apparently based on this page, I am a legend. I'm only playing 1-2 games max to see if that helps with the spoons.

I like the fact we have two counterwagons going. I'm inclined to leave both Pooky and A50 alive for now. Even if one is scum, they should generate mostly clears or guilties, based on what's been stated on this page.

[clidd]

It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.

[clidd]

Wow. Apparently based on this page, I am a legend. I'm only playing 1-2 games max to see if that helps with the spoons.

I like the fact we have two counterwagons going. I'm inclined to leave both Pooky and A50 alive for now. Even if one is scum, they should generate mostly clears or guilties, based on what's been stated on this page.

Meh. Do you have other takes on the game?

[Titus]

It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.

Why do you feel like that?

[Titus]

Wow. Apparently based on this page, I am a legend. I'm only playing 1-2 games max to see if that helps with the spoons.

I like the fact we have two counterwagons going. I'm inclined to leave both Pooky and A50 alive for now. Even if one is scum, they should generate mostly clears or guilties, based on what's been stated on this page.

Meh. Do you have other takes on the game?

Nope. I don't read on sub in unless I have a PR. Then I fake it. I'll probably skim the VCs in a bit.

[Titus]

Mod: What does a psychologist do? I thought they turned SKs into town but SKs are prohibited in normals of this size.

[clidd]

It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.

Why do you feel like that?

I'm not exactly townreading faer slot rn, but I'm not scumreading too.

I'm focused on your slot, as I believe Amélie is scum (your predecessor), but Flea's interactions with me seem to imply that fae wants to 1v1 me, even though faer wagon has more friction than mine.

After I mention that the VCA fae did was bad, fae is insisting that I should present a better VCA, but I don't see how it would help Flea to read me in AI terms and I already explained that I have no interest in a VCA, as it is not something that will help me now in the sense of scumhunting. Fae has also clung faerself to the premise that I am running away and is using this as a repetitive primary argument to stay engaging with me in a weird way.

[clidd]

Wow. Apparently based on this page, I am a legend. I'm only playing 1-2 games max to see if that helps with the spoons.

I like the fact we have two counterwagons going. I'm inclined to leave both Pooky and A50 alive for now. Even if one is scum, they should generate mostly clears or guilties, based on what's been stated on this page.

Meh. Do you have other takes on the game?

Nope. I don't read on sub in unless I have a PR. Then I fake it. I'll probably skim the VCs in a bit.

Hum, ok.

[clidd]

I mean, I would see no problem voting Flea and having reasons to be in faer wagon rn as scum!me vs town!Flea.

But I do think that faer behavior is probably more likely from foolish-town than foolish-scum (if I had to guess), although it's not a strong enough impression for me to consider the slot as townlean or townread.

Much of this was due to the push on Dgb, which so far I have difficulty finding a scum motivation.

[Titus]

@clidd, Calling something bad without presenting anything of your own is a common, but not universal, scum tactic. VCA is a tool available for everyone but weak this early. How does Faer's vca help you read him but the inverse wouldn't be true?

[Not_Mafia]

Mod: What does a psychologist do? I thought they turned SKs into town but SKs are prohibited in normals of this size.

A psychologist receives a positive result on a player that has the active ability to kill but hasn't used it, or a negative result on a player that does not have the active ability to kill OR does have the active ability to kill and has already used it. This resolves after night kills.

[clidd]

@clidd, Calling something bad without presenting anything of your own is a common, but not universal, scum tactic. VCA is a tool available for everyone but weak this early. How does Faer's vca help you read him but the inverse wouldn't be true?

Actually, Flea's VCA didn't help me much, but fae wanted to do, so it's not like I could forbid it.

Regarding the reverse, I just don't see how delivering a vca would help fae to read me better compared to asking me to describe my read in a specific slot.