electoral college mafia (now its done watch it go)

[Vaxkiller]

Im town.

[Flea The Magician]

Even then I don't see the point in the fullclaim :/ but fair ^_^

[MathBlade]

I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it so I'll just say I got mail last night.

(also my predecessor got mail n1.)

Interesting.

Your predecessor got mail from who?

(I believe I know the answer but I wanna make sure)

[MathBlade]

For the record her dying message to me (at least I am assuming it was from her) said that you were town. <3

Oh how interesting.
VOTE: Mastina
She targeted me last night

Well, last night, I was targeted by a mailman. They said they were a town odd-night combined mailman alien, that I was both roleblocked and rolestopped. (They apologized for blocking my actions, which is unfortunate, because I did use an action last night--ironically enough, *I* targeted *you*.) They then said they didn't have much more to say, other than townreading you, thinking I am town, and wanting thoughts on Auro; they gave me a code word to confirm it was from them. They also specified a way beyond the code word to reveal to me.

But I assumed it was from Momrangal doing a gambit, that she lied about being odd-night alien with her really being a jailkeeper and that the message originated from her.

I suppose my assumption could've been wrong, but I very much did receive a message with the above as the contents of it and it at least somewhat checks out since I know for a fact that my action on you failed.

Just posting this here for no apparent reason that will become apparent later.

[MathBlade]

Nevermind this is the mom bullshit again.

Ugh this is confusing.

[Umlaut]

Interesting.

Your predecessor got mail from who?

(I believe I know the answer but I wanna make sure)

Someone with a protective ability, possibly Momrangal, but don't want to reveal the message in case someone else wants to claim it.

[Umlaut]

I mean, I assume it was someone with a protective ability because the message included a promise that I would survive the night

[Umlaut]

Actually no it's pretty much 100% Mom, message also said I (tsutsu) wouldn't be going out that night so I was presumably jailed.

[Enchant]

So, i assume Rolecop+Doctor went for Mastina to check, instead of Cop?

[lendunistus]

tris has been killed in the night! she was a

vanilla townie

!

I'm sorry WHAT!? I mean GG on drawing the NK I guess but WAT.


Uhh.... o.o I dunno what to think at this point ngl. Annoyingly Moz gets a proper town pass for the bug push...


OI LEND, WANNA ACTUALLY APPEAR AND DO STUFF? AM GETTING LONELY OVER HERE!

i heard the nintendo game boy with a tetris cartridge is a great cure for loneliness

[Umlaut]

What are all the claims on the board right now?

[Flea The Magician]

tris has been killed in the night! she was a

vanilla townie

!

I'm sorry WHAT!? I mean GG on drawing the NK I guess but WAT.


Uhh.... o.o I dunno what to think at this point ngl. Annoyingly Moz gets a proper town pass for the bug push...


OI LEND, WANNA ACTUALLY APPEAR AND DO STUFF? AM GETTING LONELY OVER HERE!

i heard the nintendo game boy with a tetris cartridge is a great cure for loneliness

Hey I have the OG brick gameboy AND tetris somewhere lost so many hours to that game xD

[Enchant]

What are all the claims on the board right now?

We have 2-shot Tracker.
Jack of All Trades.
Alien.
Rolecop+Doctor.
Townie-Townie Role.

[Enchant]

... And false Cop.

[mozamis]

I guess if i am wrong about one of those, Auro scum.
In other words, scum must be in:
Bugs, Vax, Len Auro/Out?
Lynch Bugs, Vax and Len first.
The Mists of Muddle part, and Kindly Uncle Moz solves the game once again

Ok, I haven't looked properly at the voting blocs yet, so I wont vote yet.
But I'm almost certainly going to vote Len.
Nothing town from Len all game.

Paranoid caveat: why are people who look really town, i.e Math and Mastina, still alive?
Answer: scum probably think they will be protected from NK.
Still, if they are around in ElimLose, it's time to be really sus about them.

But the simple answer is that Len,Vax and Auro/Out are scum, and we should exterminate them first.

People on board for getting rid of Len?

[mozamis]

Still, credit to Bugspray for coming out with some quality BS at the end lol

[mozamis]

I don't really understand why T3 claimed.
But it looks really town.
They have looked really town for a long time.
Happy with Vax or Len.
No reads or any substantive contributions from Lens posts or Vax's. Quel surprise...

[mozamis]

@Math - who would you rather, Len or Vax?
I'd go for Auro or Outworlder at a stretch, but I cant see myself voting for anyone else, so we need to vote for one of those, if we want our bloc to have a voice.

[mozamis]

otherwise we are like the LibDems in the co-alition lol
yes, it's a politics joke, but this IS Electoral College Mafia for god's sake!

[mastina]

GROUP 1

not voting (3):

Vaxkiller,

Flea the Magician

,

Enchant

GROUP 2

not voting (3):

lendunistus,

Umlaut, T3

GROUP 3

not voting (2):

OutWorldER,

mastina

GROUP 4

not voting (2):

MathBlade

,

mozamis

GROUP 5

not voting (1):

Auro

Green = conftown to me; blue = not conftown but I strongly think to be town.

I'm reasonably sure that scum have an even-night roleblocker btw since I'm pretty sure I was targeted by a roleblocker both on N2 and N4--which, in contrast to the alien (which is odd-night), did not give a message to me.

If I am right, the roleblocker could only be one of {Vax, Flea, lendunistus, Outworlder, mozamis}, because Auro is almost certainly truthfully claiming to be a rolecop.

With bugspray flipping goon, Auro is almost definitely scum here.
lendunistus is also basically confscum to me.
If both of these are true, that leaves 1 scum in {Vaxkiller, Outworlder} + {mozamis, Flea}. The latter group I townread; the former group I no longer do.

VOTE: lendunistus.
lendunitus > Auro >> Outworlder > Vaxkiller >>>> mozamis >>> Flea imo.

[mastina]

GROUP 1

not voting (8):

Xtoxm, quiet/Almost50, Noraa/TsuTsu/Umlaut

, Auro,

Gypyx/Enchant, tris, Anya, VFP

GROUP 2

not voting (3):

mastina

,

bugspray

,

Randy Savage/MathBlade

GROUP 3

not voting (3):

Vaxkiller,

Momrangal

,

mozamis

GROUP 4

not voting (3):

OutWorldER, lendunistus,

flow trap

GROUP 5

not voting (1):

Flea the Magician

GROUP 6

not voting (1):

T3

The D1 distribution. In group 1, there is only one player not conftown at this point: Auro. This makes him stick out like a sore thumb. Either the group was all town or Auro is scum.
I believe that the individual voters are both town here.
I'm not sure if there's two scum in group 4 or one scum in group 4 and one scum in group 3, but I very much don't think that group 4 was all town; there's a minimum of one scum in {lendunistus, Outworlder}.

GROUP 1

not voting (13):

Xtoxm

, Vaxkiller,

mastina, Almost50

,

bugspray

,

Flea the Magician

, lendunistus,

Tsutsu/Umlaut, Randy Savage/MathBlade, T3, Gypyx/Enchant

,

mozamis

,

VFP

GROUP 2

not voting (2):

Auro,

tris

GROUP 3

not voting (1):

Anya

GROUP 4

not voting (1):

OutWorldER

Here the distribution is either 2 scum in the big group with 2 scum out (both Auro and Outworlder are scum), or the distribution is 3 scum in the big group with 1 scum out (one scum in {Auro, Outworlder}, with both Vaxkiller and lendunistus being scum).

Crossreferencing with D1, the latter is more likely because of the Outworlder+lendun grouping on D1 but the former isn't impossible. (Basically it comes down to: do you think Vaxkiller is scum or Outworlder is scum, with Auro and lendun being scum regardless.)

GROUP 1

not voting (7):

Vaxkiller, OutWorldER,

Flea the Magician

,

Tsutsu/Umlaut

,

mozamis

,

tris, Anya

GROUP 2

not voting (7):

mastina, Almost50

,

bugspray

,

MathBlade, T3

, Auro,

Gypyx/Enchant

GROUP 3

not voting (1):

lendunistus

Here you have a guarantee of one scum in Vax/Outworlder yet again, with a theoretical, but doubtful, chance for both to be scum. (Both being scum means one of Auro/lendun is town when I think both are likely to be scum.)

GROUP 1

not voting (6):

OutWorldER,

Tsutsu/Umlaut, MathBlade, T3

, Auro,

mozamis

GROUP 2

not voting (5):

mastina

,

bugspray

,

Flea the Magician

, lendunistus,

Gypyx/Enchant

GROUP 3

not voting (2):

Vaxkiller,

tris

Here, there's a guarantee of one scum in {Outworlder, Auro} with a high chance of lendun being scum regardless and at least a reasonable chance of Vaxkiller being scum.

GROUP 1

not voting (3):

Vaxkiller,

Flea the Magician

,

Enchant

GROUP 2

not voting (3):

lendunistus,

Umlaut, T3

GROUP 3

not voting (2):

OutWorldER,

mastina

GROUP 4

not voting (2):

MathBlade

,

mozamis

GROUP 5

not voting (1):

Auro

Which brings us to this.

Imo from this, I actually think lendun > Auro > Vaxkiller from the overall distribution from day to day.

[T3]

I'm fine voting anyone as long as it's not any confirmed town or moz. I would hold off on the Auro lim for now. Flea was very towny up until yesterday when Flea dropped off the face of the earth for a legit reason.
moz was scummy but hard pushed on a scum.
Vax and lend haven't done anything but based on play lend feels townier than Vax, but groups make lend scummier.OWER came in as town and then lost activity.
Auro I don't know about, I'll wait for his result. Also based on a setup like this and moz not visitng anyone by tracker report makes moz pnearly conftown. Evertone else conftown.

[Umlaut]

I'm really skeptical of the entire notion of analyzing group composition to find scum. In particular I don't see why I shouldn't believe that the day 1 group of eight players is all town.

• If it's random, then it's random, and Auro is no more likely than not to be scum for being in that group.
  
• If it's just whatever schadd thought would be funny, then I don't trust my ability to outguess the mod on that.

[Flea The Magician]

OK I got some smol yet might bias against a lend removal... I hear you loud and clear though, Mastina. I'll admit you could call me Wilson - I'm on the fence that much with this one.

argh

PEDIT: Flea has a meds change again Flea gets whappy around this time and is trying to megabrain this, and failing miserably. Flea is also attempting to process a wall.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm on board with Auro, Vax and OWER, reluctantly-yet-decreasingly-so with Lend.

VOTE: OWER Screw it, I'm going here for now. I wanna see OWER come spew their alignment.