Micro 1003: Divide and Conquer - Game Over!

[NorwegianboyEE]

But i also have reasons to townread both Pook/No Face while Vanderscamp i just don’t find townie by play. I’ve seen the points about mechanically he could be more likely town, or he doesn’t have an viable teammate in the 3P and all that. But i don’t think that’s correct and could be just manipulation from the scum in 3P h
Group, because it seems odd to me, if Vanderscamp is town. That literally nobody in the 3P group would vote Vanderscamp or agree at least somewhat strongly that he could be scum. Instead we get hard defense or just some light shrugs/mild defense/distractions when the topic of Vander is brought up.

[No Face]

Going thru the votes/players on it:
Nor - dont remember his vote or like anything he's said

I wasn't on it.

oh maybe that's why i don't remember your vote then :lol:
who was the other vote

ydrasse jingle no face infinty (e1) vander (e1)

or was infinity only e2 and i'm misremembering it as two e1 votes
i feel like someone unvoted in between

This isn't the first time skitter's tried to recall votes that she could easily look up by ISOing the mod. Being lost is one thing, but this feels like she may be playing that up? ;,;

Uh I’m p sure that if she wants to fake being lost this isn’t how she goes about it

Weird take, chief

I find it weird she hasn't just gone back to look at the votes considering she's brought up she doesn't know them a few times now

Doubt it’s Ydrasse/you.
Between Hectic/Pooky i’ts really hard because i feel like both could be scum. Either Pooky wanted to force through an No Face lim but sucks at it, or No Face is scum and Pooky is the only sane man that can see it. Aka, the Farkran effect.

Honestly Pooky is the Farkran of this game in the sense he's lying about something which can easily be fact checked if you go back and read (me pushing to kill him apparently)

I do think Pooky is scum Norwee so you shouldn't take that "he's convinced the other is scum and no can see it" in only one direction. Well, I suppose others can see it on my side which gives me more confidence that it is just Pooky

Mene's right and you were towny in your reaction to his vote and I don't think it's a coincidence I'm comfortably townreading all 4 of you and scumreading Pooky. I feel pretty good about it just winning the game

:^

Also: I think Vanders is only scum with Infinity and Infinity's very town

[No Face]

i'm finding this no face / pooky thing to be kinda boring and circular. i think they're most likely tvt tbh

i'm p sure i just said i don't suspect norwee
i'm gonna be honest i townread a lot of the 6p and most of the others are more ~null which isn't ideal but i'm working on it

Who are the null reads

it's roughly in order of: ydra, mean, vander, pooky, no face, nor with ydra being the strongest townread and nor being someone who mechanically is unlikely to be scum (unles sit's like with you) but i don't townread on play

i don't really explicilty scumread anyone in that group which like i said i'm aware is a problem but i'm working on it

Also also: I think the way skitter is acting about Pooky right now makes me fancy that's the team. She's called it probably a TvT but then also said she townreads a lot of people on the group of 6 and has both of us close to the bottom? It doesn't really make sense to simultaneously think it's a TvT while also having us below Ydrasse/Menalque/Vanders

It's a convenienct stance which she's more incentived to make if she's just scum with Pooky. She can't exactly be the only person vocally saying it's TvS and I'm the scum since that'll reflect really badly on both of them if one of them ever flips scum

Pooky/skitter- Lockin' it in

[No Face]

:>

[No Face]

Not only that, but: skitter townreads Menalque/Ydrasse/Vanders, and has mech reasons to think Norwee is town even if he's not towny by play, and yet despite all that comes to the lazy conclusion that we're TvT? Naaaaah

I scumread skitter regardless of what Pooky is now because of how bizarre that outlook is, but it makes so much more sense if skitter is taking the TvT stance because Pooky's her partner and taking a TvS stance loses her the game if me/Pooky are the first two launches

VOTE: Pooky

Let's win this !.!

[No Face]

[Infinity 324]

Like how do I get through to you ?

I mean, i get your frustration in not being able to convince me if you’re town here and certain you’re right. But i’m not the type of player that get’s convinced by the exact same argument repeated over and over again. You’re going to have to find another way if you’re that certain No Face is scum.

I'm glad mena came around here, but yeah this is a townpost

[Infinity 324]

What's panic room?

I’ll take “not my proudest scumgame” for 300, Alex

This is like saying that coming back from vacation to find a shitshow at work and not being able to fix it was "not your proudest moment"

[No Face]

Infinity do you get what I'm saying? [/[;

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah i’m pretty sure No Face is townier than Pooky?
Do you still hate the idea of an Pooky wagon Mena? I think Hectic’s making many good points.
If i wasn’t voting Vander it would be Pooky right now.

[Infinity 324]

Infinity do you get what I'm saying? [/[;

Yep it's pretty much where I'm at too. There's a couple things that give me pause: 1. Skitt and pooky are strong scum players and you'd think they'd have better arguments, 2. I have a hard time seeing jingle/pooky so it would really have to be skitt/pooky.

That said, I'll give this one more RL day for norwee/mena to say their piece but then I'm gonna hammer. If pooky is town, this game needs their flip to move on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Was Skitter the one that said Ydrasse "wasn’t even close to lock-town" or something to that effect?

Yeah, i could see Skitter!scum.

[Infinity 324]

Skitt also hasn't really towntold this game

[No Face]

Awesome I'm hyped for the day 1 win :"

[No Face]

Maybe this is going into confbiased territory but I can also totally see Pooky taking the group of 6 position for skitter, considering skitter's been very unenthusiastic about playing scum for too long in recent times, and might've preferred the group of 3 position :r

[Infinity 324]

Yeah I could see that. I wanna see skitt!scum at 100%

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don’t think Pooky unvoted Farkran in the previous game? But here he does?

r u serious

did you even read the game :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like how do I get through to you ?

I mean, i get your frustration in not being able to convince me if you’re town here and certain you’re right. But i’m not the type of player that get’s convinced by the exact same argument repeated over and over again. You’re going to have to find another way if you’re that certain No Face is scum.

he is literally doing the same thing farkran did in the last game pushing me lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Honestly Pooky is the Farkran of this game in the sense he's lying about something which can easily be fact checked if you go back and read (me pushing to kill him apparently)

ok buddy what are you pushing me for if not to kill me?

[Infinity 324]

Sometimes I make pushes so that people understand where I'm at, a vote is always better than not voting

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok when you do that do you have reasons for your votes?

[Infinity 324]

Yes, often they're PoE

[Infinity 324]

I actually think pooky is not so likely to be scum because I think they'd put themselves in the group of 3 in order to 1v1 people, because that's where I've seen scum!pooky be most comfortable

I've talked myself into this by PoE

VOTE: no face

Exhibit A

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes thats true

but as infomation changes and your reasons are addressed/answered... you change your vote no?

if you dont just hand wave it and keep voting the same person...

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like how do I get through to you ?

I mean, i get your frustration in not being able to convince me if you’re town here and certain you’re right. But i’m not the type of player that get’s convinced by the exact same argument repeated over and over again. You’re going to have to find another way if you’re that certain No Face is scum.

he is literally doing the same thing farkran did in the last game pushing me lol

Farkran/Hectic's not the same person...