Micro 1003: Divide and Conquer - Game Over!

[No Face]

I'm saying possible motivations for why scum!you would make the initial decision to 1v1 me Pooky

obviously it looks dire for you now and you wouldn't make the same decision back then as scum .'.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If you're actually town, then sure, I'd take the yeet next and join you for some salt memes in the dead thread lol

but I don't think so :2

I don't see how people don't read what you say and realize it's just fake lol

it's literally wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm saying possible motivations for why scum!you would make the initial decision to 1v1 me Pooky

obviously it looks dire for you now and you wouldn't make the same decision back then as scum .'.

uh so it didn't look dire for me when you had 4 votes on me and people not on the wagon saying they wanted to kill me? lolol what world are you even pretending to live in

[No Face]

It's not fake, if you flip town, I'd feel bad and wouldn't fight or try and defend myself much if people wanted my blood tomorrow - this has already been way more effort than I usually put into a mafia game this early, it can be a little draining

:d

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If you're actually town, then sure, I'd take the yeet next and join you for some salt memes in the dead thread lol

but I don't think so :2

like a town player just never says this ever.

because if I flip town, why would he just eat the yeet and let town go to lylo? lol just wild the stuff he is making up here

[No Face]

I'm saying possible motivations for why scum!you would make the initial decision to 1v1 me Pooky

obviously it looks dire for you now and you wouldn't make the same decision back then as scum .'.

uh so it didn't look dire for me when you had 4 votes on me and people not on the wagon saying they wanted to kill me? lolol what world are you even pretending to live in

The 1v1 started before you were on L-1 and it looked that bad for you...

see this is what I mean by misrepping facts that can be looked up, did you take a page from Farkran's book?

[No Face]

If you're actually town, then sure, I'd take the yeet next and join you for some salt memes in the dead thread lol

but I don't think so :2

like a town player just never says this ever.

because if I flip town, why would he just eat the yeet and let town go to lylo? lol just wild the stuff he is making up here

because I don't care and I'm tired :.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's not fake, if you flip town, I'd feel bad and wouldn't fight or try and defend myself much if people wanted my blood tomorrow - this has already been way more effort than I usually put into a mafia game this early, it can be a little draining

:d

you'd feel bad for killing town me so you'd make it up to me by letting town you also die??

r u serious!?!?!?!?

how is this a real thought in your head?!?

[No Face]

Like map out what happens if scum!me forces a 1v1 on d1/d2 while at a disadvantage.

probly 60%-80% of the time you elim me, game is over

40%-20% of the time, I elim you, I get elimmed on the next day, town has 2 chances to elim my partner in 3 players, there's probably enough info from D1 to narrow down who the partner is or at least rule out one partner.

Either way I lose.

So why would I even expend the energy to pursue almost certain loss?

This makes 0 sense for scum!me to do to town!you yet you continue to insist that's what's happening here nad that's what's like mindboggling to me. That you think this is a path that scum!me decides to go down.

The 1v1 was started on this post or before:

the essence of his push on me isn't "I scumread Pooky"

it's I town-read everyone else for ___, ____, ____, and _____

It leaves one person out of the equation, notably that's himself.

It's an effective strategy for pushing mis-elims on d1 because you create a coalition/support by handing out townreads to get people to help you, and you create a mutual target for everyone to go after.

It's also incredibly difficult for me to defend against because he's not actually scum-reading me for anything, so there's nothing for me to refute

then tomm after I'm flipped town he will "go back" to his townreads and "think" about where he went wrong.

Here's the VC:

Votecount 1.3

PookyTheMagicalBear (3) - No Face, Ydrasse, Bingle
No Face (2) - PookyTheMagicalBear, Infinity 324
Vanderscamp (2) - Menalque, NorwegianboyEE
Infinity 324 (1) - skitter30

Not voting (1) - Vanderscamp

(expired on 2021-04-20 14:23:00) remain until day end

skitter30 is perpetually V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

I don't think you're at a big disadvantage by any means. Vanders and Norwee both haven't sided with either of us yet, and you probably think Mene will side with you

I don't think it's as handicapped a position for you at that time as you're making it out to be 2'2

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The 1v1 started before you were on L-1 and it looked that bad for you...

see this is what I mean by misrepping facts that can be looked up, did you take a page from Farkran's book?

Oh I'm sorry it began when I was on E-2 instead of E-1,

that's a huge difference. I'm sure I felt much safer at E-2 with 2 people pushing for me to die

[No Face]

It's not fake, if you flip town, I'd feel bad and wouldn't fight or try and defend myself much if people wanted my blood tomorrow - this has already been way more effort than I usually put into a mafia game this early, it can be a little draining

:d

you'd feel bad for killing town me so you'd make it up to me by letting town you also die??

r u serious!?!?!?!?

how is this a real thought in your head?!?

Sigh...

Right now the thought in my head is that you're scum and we win the game if we flip you

Other thoughts are tiring to think about, but I probably would be too tired to fight tomorrow if people came after me, yes :i

[No Face]

I'm checking out Pooky, I think you're grasping at whatever you can and I shouldn't get dragged in

I'm sorry if you're town, but I really don't think you are $_$

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it's fake because that's not how town!you would actually think about a town!me flip

you don't make it up to town!me by throwing town!you in a river and joining me and then town is at lylo without a clue where to go next.

like what r u even saying dude

[No Face]

I was making a joke about joining you in the dead thread for some salty memes, but truth is: I wouldn't fight my launch, yes. I'm not some perfect town player who wouldn't take a loss so easily. You just saw me play as Sans Undertale where I literally did the same thing. I didn't want to tire myself by casing Harley/Ydrasse to the thread, so I just left the dance with me/hatters on the less likely scumflip (and we lost)

s.s

[No Face]

it's fake because that's not how town!you would actually think about a town!me flip

you don't make it up to town!me by throwing town!you in a river and joining me and then town is at lylo without a clue where to go next.

like what r u even saying dude

Pooky was the mod of the game where I just did this:

i'm not, but i think i'd rather be done with this. and i don't see myself ever convincing everyone to vote one of the other groups out without a lot of effort and casing, but that's not my style this game.

[No Face]

I GOT DRAGGED BACK IN

Leaving for real now, 1v1s sure are taxing, huh? I remember why I try and avoid these at all costs now :4

[Infinity 324]

You were the chosen one, hectic! You were supposed to destroy the chill games, not join them! You were supposed to embrace the toxic 1v1s, not leave them to die!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea I would say your effort level here is very different from your effort level in the dance game where you were town.

you saw it would be hard to convince unwnd so you just decided to take the easy way out and take your own partner out because maybe hatter was scum.

see in the dance game you had a bit of hope that maybe you were wrong about hatters. Here you don't really have a choice, if I kill you the game is over so you have to fully commit.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and like you only need to buy your partner 1 day. you flip tomorrow instead of today they have a fighting chance in a 3pool with 2 elims.

I'm the one who it makes no sense to be putting effort into this fight. you say my only reasonable partner is skitter, so like why would i even bother fighting? I win and you die, tomm I die, the next day skitter dies, what's in it for me to put this effort in? It's like absurd the reality you are claiming at this point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The more this argument drags on the more i just want us to vote Vanderscamp.

[Menalque]

@norwee why do you TR ydra?

[NorwegianboyEE]

@norwee why do you TR ydra?

It seems unlikely they'd be in 6p instead of their partner if one of them was scum with her. Also i saw their soul reading thing on Hectic in another game and while i thought it was weird and scummy as fuck at the time, it turns out she was town and really did sincerely mean it. So i'm assuming it's the same here and she's just town doing it. Also i think their tone has generally been good.

[Bingle]

At the moment i find it unlikely but still plausible that Vanderscamp, if scum, is with Infinity. But i could see Skitter and you, easily.

Let's examine this:

Skitter scum puts Vanderscamp in 6p pool:

That means Vanderscamp has to duck the elim in a pool of:

Mena/You/Ydrasse/NoHectic/Pooky/Vander

Off the top of my head, Mena and Pooky aren't particularly easy to miselim or pull the wool over their eyes. I don't see you as particularly mislim baity given our interactions, and Skitts seems to actively be defending you when she's here. Let's give the benefit of the doubt here and say skitts thinks NoHectic is SumRando. Even so, does that look like the basket that skitts puts all her eggs into?

[Bingle]

i don'tt hink you're aligned with him

Is this a specific S/T callout or do you think we're just not S/S? I'm assuming the latter, but would be keen on reasoning when you get back Sunday if its the former.

[Bingle]

don't think jingle challenges himself that way

Wynaut?