electoral college mafia (now its done watch it go)

[T3]

I don't want to vote Vax because of the groups rn, it would be easier to get an Auro vote among the ovvious townies.

[T3]

Although Vax basically tunneled a conftown the entire game.

[Auro]

You're being pushed. Claim it.

I don't think that result should have any effect on the push on me.

[Flea The Magician]

I don't want to vote Vax because of the groups rn, it would be easier to get an Auro vote among the ovvious townies.

Straight up, the groupspec is going to start landing us in trouble. We need to hunt the scum.... gimme a mo.

[Vaxkiller]

Although Vax basically tunneled a conftown the entire game.

I did?

[T3]

Although Vax basically tunneled a conftown the entire game.

I did?

umlaut

[Umlaut]

Is it really suspicious to push someone who in retrospect is conftown? I feel like it's not. We all have wrong reads.

(Being confed could not have come at a worse time, btw, fighting for my life is pretty much the best way for me to get engaged with a game I'm adrift in and that's never going to happen now)

[Vaxkiller]

tsu tsu seemed scummy to me. What makes umlaunt conf town?

[T3]

Is it really suspicious to push someone who in retrospect is conftown? I feel like it's not. We all have wrong reads.

(Being confed could not have come at a worse time, btw, fighting for my life is pretty much the best way for me to get engaged with a game I'm adrift in and that's never going to happen now)

A read without reason, and vax appeared to have no other reads.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: This is how I see it at the moment, groups are coloured in. Some biases stolen.

Key:

Flipped Town

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Flipped Scum

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TownBias

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ScumBias

Day 1 Starts!



Vote count 1.0

GROUP 1

not voting (8):

Xtoxm

, quiet,

Umlaut

,

Auro

,

Enchant

,

tris

,

Anya

, VFP

GROUP 2

not voting (3):

Mastina

,

bugspray

,

Mathblade

GROUP 3

not voting (3): Vaxkiller,

Momrangal

,

mozamis

GROUP 4

not voting (3):

OutWorldER

,

lendunistus

,

flow trap

GROUP 5

not voting (1): Flea the Magician

GROUP 6

not voting (1):

T3

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Day 2 Starts!



vote count 2.0

GROUP 1

not voting (13):

Xtoxm

, Vaxkiller,

Mastina

, Almost50,

bugspray

, Flea the Magician,

lendunistus

,

Umlaut

,

Mathblade

,

T3

,

Enchant

,

mozamis

, VFP

GROUP 2

not voting (2):

Auro

,

tris

GROUP 3

not voting (1):

Anya

GROUP 4

not voting (1):

OutWorldER

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vote count 3.0

GROUP 1

not voting (7): Vaxkiller,

OutWorldER

, Flea the Magician,

Umlaut

,

mozamis

,

tris

,

Anya

GROUP 2

not voting (7):

Mastina

, Almost50,

bugspray

,

Mathblade

,

T3

,

Auro

,

Enchant

GROUP 3

not voting (1):

lendunistus

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vote count 4.0

GROUP 1

not voting (6):

OutWorldER

,

Umlaut

,

Mathblade

,

T3

,

Auro

,

mozamis

GROUP 2

not voting (5):

Mastina

,

bugspray

, Flea the Magician,

lendunistus

,

Enchant

GROUP 3

not voting (2): Vaxkiller,

tris

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https://twitter.com/pmgentry/status/1379093511539150852[/tweet]

vote count 5.0

GROUP 1

not voting (3): Vaxkiller, Flea the Magician,

Enchant

GROUP 2

not voting (3):

lendunistus

,

Umlaut

,

T3

GROUP 3

not voting (2):

OutWorldER

,

Mastina

GROUP 4

not voting (2):

Mathblade

,

mozamis

GROUP 5

not voting (1):

Auro

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[Flea The Magician]

Nobody thinking that's a little predictable? :/

[Enchant]

Aren't Almost50 died as town?

[Vaxkiller]

I like 2609

[Auro]

tsu tsu seemed scummy to me. What makes umlaunt conf town?

T3's night action.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Flea The Magician]

Aren't Almost50 died as town?

Knew I was missing one, I rushed that list because of support group incoming lol

[Enchant]

So. There are my thoughts.

Auro checked+healed Mastina and claims she indeed got 100% townie role. So, either Auro and Mastina both mafia, or just Auro.

I am not sure with setup though. Aren't two doctors in one setup looks so powerful to exist? Did moderator hoped they both would protect each other, or gived some ways for mafia to counter that? If Mastina tells truth, there is mafia-role locker, which makes sense as counter for two doctors.

Why mafia risked to kill tris? Which is one of two persons who being checked by Rolecop+Doctor and can waste kill. It even benefit us, it would be big screw if Tris was checked by Auro.

I somewhat believe Jack claim is legit, but there's also coveat, because he can simple claim Roleblocker blocked his kill. Protection can't be confirmed, Cop checks can be easily fabricated, only really confirming thing is Vig shot. Honestly, it would save us from some pain if you shot before claim, but can't blame. Also, why you didn't use Cops from 1n?

[Flea The Magician]

Thats the other problem, if mafia have a roleblock and the vig just claimed they got 1 shot left, maf have their target tonight.

[MathBlade]

So. There are my thoughts.

Auro checked+healed Mastina and claims she indeed got 100% townie role. So, either Auro and Mastina both mafia, or just Auro.

I am not sure with setup though. Aren't two doctors in one setup looks so powerful to exist? Did moderator hoped they both would protect each other, or gived some ways for mafia to counter that? If Mastina tells truth, there is mafia-role locker, which makes sense as counter for two doctors.

Why mafia risked to kill tris? Which is one of two persons who being checked by Rolecop+Doctor and can waste kill. It even benefit us, it would be big screw if Tris was checked by Auro.

I somewhat believe Jack claim is legit, but there's also coveat, because he can simple claim Roleblocker blocked his kill. Protection can't be confirmed, Cop checks can be easily fabricated, only really confirming thing is Vig shot. Honestly, it would save us from some pain if you shot before claim, but can't blame. Also, why you didn't use Cops from 1n?

Here’s the issue.

There’s two roleblockers (Alien and Mom) and a doctor claim (Auro)

Your argument would be for three protectives not two.

It’s my opinion the alien was scum for a while but I might be warming up to them town.

But if Auro flips town I would be tunneling the person I suspect as Alien here.

If Auro is town and did find the Alien from before I would believe they’d be tunneling that Alien. Since they aren’t and they said the claim on N2 is secret it’s likely Auro just isn’t a rolecop.

If Auro is and town then leverage exists for my gut read before and Mastina I can guess knows who I would be tunneling so if scum kill me she tunnels the Alien or vice versa.

So Auro is a really good elim.

[MathBlade]

Actually wait 4 the Joat. Lmao point applies though.

This could be some weird T3 gambit but regardless all these protectives just can’t be town

[Enchant]

No, i mean.

Standart tactic for Doctors is protect each other. It's unbreakeble without some roleblock ability.

[MathBlade]

Or strongman or ... (fill in the blank)

We don’t know any of what scum have since bugs flipped goon.

[mastina]

Actually wait 4 the Joat. Lmao point applies though.

Actually, there's five claimed protective roles:
The JOAT's doctor.
The flipped Simple Doctor (notably could not protect PRs tho).
The flipped Messenger-Jailkeeper.
The half-proven (roleblock half definitely proven) odd-night Alien-Messenger.
And Auro's every-night unlimited Combined Doctor+Rolecop.

One of these claims is not like the others imo.
(Jailkeeper has a downside to the protect. Simple Doctor can't protect PRs. JOAT's doctor is one-shot. Alien both has a downside to the protect and is odd-night. What's the downside to an ungated Doctor+Rolecop?)

[MathBlade]

Actually wait 4 the Joat. Lmao point applies though.

Actually, there's five claimed protective roles:
The JOAT's doctor.
The flipped Simple Doctor (notably could not protect PRs tho).
The flipped Messenger-Jailkeeper.
The half-proven (roleblock half definitely proven) odd-night Alien-Messenger.
And Auro's every-night unlimited Combined Doctor+Rolecop.

One of these claims is not like the others imo.
(Jailkeeper has a downside to the protect. Simple Doctor can't protect PRs. JOAT's doctor is one-shot. Alien both has a downside to the protect and is odd-night. What's the downside to an ungated Doctor+Rolecop?)

You expect me to count?

Like am I supposed to be good at math?

(Harmless self ribbing)

[Enchant]

Or strongman or ... (fill in the blank)

We don’t know any of what scum have since bugs flipped goon.

I don't think just strongman enough for balance, if all claims are truth. But yeah, it's possible.


Agree with mastine. Doctor+Rolecop looking too useful to being truth. I would expect this to be have nubmered times of use, but i quess it's infinity use.

[Umlaut]

I have no sense of what is or isn't a reasonable amount of town power for a 19p. I have to ask if we really know whether the 'Alien' Mailman is even town? And if not, is the JoAT + Simple Doc + Jailkeeper-Mailman + Doctor-Rolecop too much town power in itself?