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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:15 pm

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catboi (3):
iN3krO, Meuh, Pearofclubs
iN3krO (2):
NorwegianBoyEE, catboi
Not_Mafia (1):
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Toriiiiiiiiiiii (1):
Samawoodo
Not Voting (2):
Toriiiiiiiiiiii and marcistar

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player.

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(expired on 2021-04-17 15:00:00)


Vote historyMeuh votes Pearofclubs: Post #9
NorwegianBoyEE votes Not_Mafia: Post #10
Samawoodo votes Toriiiiiiiiiiii: Post #15
catboi votes Pearofclubs: Post #45
Not_Mafia votes themselves: Post #46
NorwegianBoyEE votes Meuh: Post #60
iN3krO votes catboi: Post #96
Pearofclubs votes iN3krO: Post #97
Meuh votes catboi: Post #100
NorwegianBoyEE votes iN3krO: Post #125
Pearofclubs votes catboi: Post #134
catboi votes iN3krO: Post #174


edit: missed cat's iN3krO vote when I originally posted this, apologies

edit2: forgot to remove norwegianboyee’s original vote when they voted iN3krO, fixed now
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:19 am

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Not_Mafia has been prodded.

They have 24 hours to post until I start looking for a replacement for them.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:10 am

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Samawoodo has been prodded.

They have 24 hours to post until I start looking for a replacement for them.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:17 am

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In post 146, Meuh wrote:
@Not_Mafia:
thoughts on Tori?

@Samawoodo:
thoughts on Catboi?

Uhm actually is a null for me, idk, i dont feel like he is scummy for me atm. I mean, i have not so many reads for him right now so actually i couldnt figure so much about him :neutral:
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:23 am

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In post 173, catboi wrote:
In post 146, Meuh wrote:
@Not_Mafia:
thoughts on Tori?

@Samawoodo:
thoughts on Catboi?

@Tori:
thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@iN3krO:
thoughts on Sama and Tori?

@NorwegianboyEE:
Could you explain how your read on Sama evolved from to ?

@Marci:
Thoughts on Tori?

@Pearofclubs:
Thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@Catboi:
Thoughts on N_M and Norwee?
I'm going to pointedly refuse to answer this and instead ask why you felt the need to ask everyone about different people.
Ok i didnt read this when i wrote my previous post

I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason :? (We are at D1 still)

If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them

I hope you are not afraid of sharing them :roll:
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:27 am

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In post 173, catboi wrote:
In post 146, Meuh wrote:
@Not_Mafia:
thoughts on Tori?

@Samawoodo:
thoughts on Catboi?

@Tori:
thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@iN3krO:
thoughts on Sama and Tori?

@NorwegianboyEE:
Could you explain how your read on Sama evolved from to ?

@Marci:
Thoughts on Tori?

@Pearofclubs:
Thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@Catboi:
Thoughts on N_M and Norwee?
I'm going to pointedly refuse to answer this and instead ask why you felt the need to ask everyone about different people.
I asked everyone about people I wanted them to elaborate their read on, so either people they haven't or barely have mentioned/interacted with so we can build a fuller picture of the game, I feel like the partners are probably not interacting much, so asking these questions could help bait out scum/scum interactions, which would probably be pretty great. :cool:
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:28 am

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In post 179, Samawoodo wrote:
In post 173, catboi wrote:
In post 146, Meuh wrote:
@Not_Mafia:
thoughts on Tori?

@Samawoodo:
thoughts on Catboi?

@Tori:
thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@iN3krO:
thoughts on Sama and Tori?

@NorwegianboyEE:
Could you explain how your read on Sama evolved from to ?

@Marci:
Thoughts on Tori?

@Pearofclubs:
Thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@Catboi:
Thoughts on N_M and Norwee?
I'm going to pointedly refuse to answer this and instead ask why you felt the need to ask everyone about different people.
Ok i didnt read this when i wrote my previous post

I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason :? (We are at D1 still)

If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them

I hope you are not afraid of sharing them :roll:
Yeah, I mean why not answer the question? Plus you can still ask me why while also answering, no reason not to help develop the game, unless you're scum? :eek: :shifty:
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:25 am

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In post 175, lendunistus wrote:
Newbie 2061 - Votecount 1.7


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catboi (3):
iN3krO, Meuh, Pearofclubs
iN3krO (2):
NorwegianBoyEE, catboi
Not_Mafia (1):
Not_Mafia
Toriiiiiiiiiiii (1):
Samawoodo
Meuh (1):
NorwegianBoyEE
Not Voting (2):
Toriiiiiiiiiiii and marcistar

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player.

Deadline:
(expired on 2021-04-17 15:00:00)
im sorry, im so confused, why does norwegianboyee have 2 votes on here..?
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:26 am

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In post 179, Samawoodo wrote:I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason :? (We are at D1 still)
I agree, I don't see the point on him holding out reads :cry:
In post 179, Samawoodo wrote:If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them
on this note, do you have any thoughts on other people..?
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:11 am

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In post 182, marcistar wrote:
In post 175, lendunistus wrote:
Newbie 2061 - Votecount 1.7


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catboi (3):
iN3krO, Meuh, Pearofclubs
iN3krO (2):
NorwegianBoyEE, catboi
Not_Mafia (1):
Not_Mafia
Toriiiiiiiiiiii (1):
Samawoodo
Meuh (1):
NorwegianBoyEE
Not Voting (2):
Toriiiiiiiiiiii and marcistar

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player.

Deadline:
(expired on 2021-04-17 15:00:00)
im sorry, im so confused, why does norwegianboyee have 2 votes on here..?
Apologies, mistake on my part. Will be fixed ASAP.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:20 am

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My votes carry such depth, such volume. That counting them twice is only natural.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:07 am

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In post 184, lendunistus wrote:
Apologies, mistake on my part. Will be fixed ASAP.
Ah issok :oops: ty!
In post 185, NorwegianboyEE wrote:My votes carry such depth, such volume. That counting them twice is only natural.
ah facts
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am

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Current reads-TR Norwee, Pear, , Null Not_mafia, sama SR Meuh, Catboi, marci

Sorry I haven't been involved as much I've been a bit busy~ I'll try and talk more
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:33 am

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In post 187, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:SR Meuh, Catboi, marci
Can I ask for you to explain pretty please? :oops:
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:11 pm

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In post 179, Samawoodo wrote:Ok i didnt read this when i wrote my previous post

I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason :? (We are at D1 still)

If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them

I hope you are not afraid of sharing them :roll:
It's not like it would be particularly difficult to answer that question as scum, indeed if my focus were simply on pleasing people I'd answer straight away and be done with it.

speaking of not answering questions, though - you didn't answer mine. Is there anyone you currently suspect?
In post 180, Meuh wrote:I asked everyone about people I wanted them to elaborate their read on, so either people they haven't or barely have mentioned/interacted with so we can build a fuller picture of the game, I feel like the partners are probably not interacting much, so asking these questions could help bait out scum/scum interactions, which would probably be pretty great. :cool:
I ask because it struck me as the sort of move that is designed to appear like someone is being helpful on the surface but is largely directionless and accomplishes nothing, a maneuver I've attempted as scum before. I don't think asking people for opinions on others based on putting names together seemingly at random accomplishes much.


I find myself with several people I fos, and not much in the way of townreads.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:07 pm

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I return as promised!
Let's get right into it.
In post 171, catboi wrote:Er, the post I was typing up
was
the one you got. I didn't have anything more to say at the time. Is being disinterested scummy to you?
Being disinterested? No, although you engaging more could have made it more interesting for all involved.
Barely participating? A bit. You made one RVS post and then vanished. That's not good.
You've also been acting fairly defensive, not answering questions, not sharing your thoughts. Not townie behavior.
You can argue semantics about it not being fluff if you like, but you didn't stick around to do anything with any reactions that you might've gotten.
But it's still very early :P
In post 146, Meuh wrote: @Pearofclubs: Thoughts on Marci and Sama?
Hm.
Marci I don't really have any new impression of. She was null* pointedly with an asterisk because of that conspiracy theory. She's been asking questions and doing some work, but at the same time there isn't a post she's done that immediately jumps to mind when I think of her. Which leaves me with the impression that maybe she's been posting a lot without doing a lot? I think I'll reread the thread from the beginning again tonight and see if there's anything that pings me. You too, by the way. I feel like with the amount you two have posted I should have stronger feelings. We'll see after another read :P

Sama is on the lower end of neutral right now. It's admittedly difficult to place him because of the language barrier and the first-game-jitters that I can completely relate to. I guess I'll add him to the list of people I need to completely re-read, lol.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:48 pm

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In post 190, Pearofclubs wrote:Being disinterested? No, although you engaging more could have made it more interesting for all involved.
Barely participating? A bit. You made one RVS post and then vanished. That's not good.
You've also been acting fairly defensive, not answering questions, not sharing your thoughts. Not townie behavior.
You can argue semantics about it not being fluff if you like, but you didn't stick around to do anything with any reactions that you might've gotten.
But it's still very early
Again, though, you can say me being inactive is
not good
or
unhelpful
, but that doesn't really cross the bridge to be
being scum
, does it? Focusing solely on someone's activity is unfortunately a poor method of finding scum, sometimes there are players who lurk because they have a hard time faking it, but other times people are just naturally disinterested. (granted, my last scumgame offsite, I was miserably frozen and flaked out, but I don't think I'd have that problem here because it's so much slower paced).

I think "defensive" is a term that gets thrown around whenever someone bothers to defend themself, at all, which is a fairly natural thing in a game of mafia. It's an accusation that has very little meaning. Why do you see my not answering qusetions as scummy? It's a very easy thing to comply with the requests of others if I were scum, and that's probably what I'd be doing. But if I feel like I'm getting asked a question that's useless or suspect I'm going to uestion them instead. I can understand your frustration with me not simply plopping down a reads list but most of my thoughts right now are half-formed, I'm still in the process of feeling hings out. In my previous post, I was going to give some townreads then when I went back to reread people, I doubted myself and deleted that part of my post. I don't like making statements that amount to "eh, could go either way, who knows"
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:07 pm

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Catboi is town.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:08 pm

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No ifs, buts, or why’s about it.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:09 pm

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Sry guys, but Catboi wagon sucks. He’s towntelling in his posts here and we should go somewhere else.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:15 pm

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iN3krO has been prodded.

They have 24 hours to post until I will start looking for a replacement for them.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:08 pm

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While I appreciate the defense, I'm not too bothered by the votes on me right now. Why do you think I'm towntelling?
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:19 pm

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@catboi If you answer me with another question I don't really feel like answering ya. I don't think it's a coincidence that you and NM are voting me, though I think it's quite reactive and doesn't indicate aligment of either of you.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:31 pm

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Wait, NM ain't voting me, just scumreading me, but doing nothing useful with his vote.....
In post 187, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:TR Norwee, Pear, , Null Not_mafia, sama SR Meuh, Catboi, marci
Could you please care to explain why do you explicitly have NM and Sama as Null but you have omitted me? What does that mean?
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:59 pm

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I'm waiting to hammer you
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
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