Micro 1005: Help Isis, Scholarship Student at Noon

[Sha 77]

Depends on if you can sell us on your dancing moves, Pooky

[Alisae]

oh apparently ydra isn't confirmed town

[Alisae]

ok so I still think Ydra is scum

[Infinity 324]

Can you like explain that

[Alisae]

oh so I was wrong on ydra
I thought she was scummy because he andre read as well as mine just felt really made up and if she was scum I would expect her to have those reads. It really felt like she was trying to make something out of nothing

[Infinity 324]

"as well as mine" I don't get what that means

I was hoping for something better

[Alisae]

her contributions don't feel natural for how early we are into the game.

[Sha 77]

What about her follow ups when I asked her to elaborate on them?

[Alisae]

Like have you read these posts?

i don't like 180 from andres, how he pointed out what alisae was doing and he was like oh... i'll still townread it... like he's trying to make himself look good etc etc

andres pinged me for what i explained, but he hasnt been around more to actually interact or say more. alisae already is making me go ? because of that normal game where e instantly clocked me for town and this game theyre like they dont trust me and idk, maybe i expect someone boasting about how well they can read me being able to tell that i'm town again fast enough and it's jarring to me that they're in opposite territory, pooky isn't inherently scummy but i don't like the way he's talking about the game basically and it's not any deeper than that.

those are the most concrete reasons i have to dislike people/not heal them.

I don't see how these come from a town!ydra

[Alisae]

Also btw, I know I'm town, and I think andres' posting has felt pretty honest, hence why I'm healing it.
So just seeing that these scumreads are both "wrong" worries me.
Like I look at Ydra's contributions for what they are and how early we are into the game and I get worried since this is what seems in line for scum!Ydra

[Sha 77]

my best bet at correctly guessing someone’s alignment is probably Ydrasse

Yeah she just has to post!

I thought the reads were a little too much for this stage of the game too, but this sentiment probably made her feel the need to out more thoughts than she normally would, regardless of her alignment

[Alisae]

Also something worth noting is I haven't actually read the game and given it my "full" attention yet, this is just glimpses of what I see when I occasionally do check in and decide to read up.
I don't think I can filter through most of what "happened" anyways cuz I don't think it was much of anything so an Ali that has given eir's attention to reading the game compared to current Ali wouldn't be that much?

[Alisae]

my best bet at correctly guessing someone’s alignment is probably Ydrasse

Yeah she just has to post!

I thought the reads were a little too much for this stage of the game too, but this sentiment probably made her feel the need to out more thoughts than she normally would, regardless of her alignment

Ok see, this sentiment I don't think would affect a town!ydra and I don't even think she would come out with the andre read if she was town. I feel like she's kind of similar to me in that it takes us both awhile to actually get reads and I don't see how she gets to this conclusion. I don't know how 180 is 100% andres trying to make himself look good when I look at this post and go "okay so these are probably just his feelings at this moment." Like, how are we getting this conclusion that its him trying to make himself look good.

[Alisae]

rare alisae moment where ali is not sleeping during class

[Sha 77]

Your reasons are like very similar to part of why I was getting pinged by her, Ali

Did you see her responses to me though? She was answering in like <1min with reasonable stuff which elaborated on those

[Alisae]

these?

i don't like 180 from andres, how he pointed out what alisae was doing and he was like oh... i'll still townread it... like he's trying to make himself look good etc etc

Why did that comment from andres look like it was hin trying to make himself look towny?

I thought it was towny for him to debate about it in the post and then townread Ali for it anyway

it's more the fact that he's spelling out the debate process to me that i dislike, thinking that he's trying to make it seem like he's thinking about things when he could have just said "i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it"

i don't like 180 from andres, how he pointed out what alisae was doing and he was like oh... i'll still townread it... like he's trying to make himself look good etc etc

Why did that comment from andres look like it was hin trying to make himself look towny?

I thought it was towny for him to debate about it in the post and then townread Ali for it anyway

it's more the fact that he's spelling out the debate process to me that i dislike, thinking that he's trying to make it seem like he's thinking about things when he could have just said "i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it"

the way he phrases things there seems fine to me. i feel like i say similar things some times

[Alisae]

I'm not sure what the difference is between ""i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it" and "I don’t know whether to TR this anti-Town behavior. I kind want to."
I'm also having trouble understanding why her response times matter here. Would they be slower if she was scum?

[Alisae]

HEAL: Sha 77

[Infinity 324]

Ydrasse feels like she's expressing herself more confidently than I'd expect from scum!ydra

I don't see all the logic behind her reads but I don't feel like I need to? I don't really agree that town!ydra would take a while to get to reads and scum!ydra wouldn't. It probably depends on the game

[Infinity 324]

I'm not sure what the difference is between ""i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it" and "I don’t know whether to TR this anti-Town behavior. I kind want to."

Huh? This first is a scumread and the second is a townread if anything

[Alisae]

Ydrasse feels like she's expressing herself more confidently than I'd expect from scum!ydra

I don't see all the logic behind her reads but I don't feel like I need to? I don't really agree that town!ydra would take a while to get to reads and scum!ydra wouldn't. It probably depends on the game

Scum!Ydra is pretty confident if she wants to play early

[Alisae]

I'm not sure what the difference is between ""i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it" and "I don’t know whether to TR this anti-Town behavior. I kind want to."

Huh? This first is a scumread and the second is a townread if anything

her words not mine

[Alisae]

Ydrasse feels like she's expressing herself more confidently than I'd expect from scum!ydra

Hectic/Sha do you think this has value?

[Infinity 324]

I'm not sure what the difference is between ""i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it" and "I don’t know whether to TR this anti-Town behavior. I kind want to."

Huh? This first is a scumread and the second is a townread if anything

her words not mine

I see what you're saying, I'm mostly reading the way ydrasse is expressing herself rather than what she's expressing. It feels a lot like how I try to explain gut reads as town, which can be difficult to fake I think

Maybe I just don't know ydrasse's meta enough to be making these conclusions but I'm ok TRing her for now

[Alisae]

I see what you're saying, I'm mostly reading the way ydrasse is expressing herself rather than what she's expressing. It feels a lot like how I try to explain gut reads as town, which can be difficult to fake I think

i mean i think ur first mistake is trying to explain gut reads because you can't really explain your gut or instincts beyond that and it also takes time for people to actually trust your gut/instincts.

but aside from that, sha/hectic do you think this is a good way to go about reading ydra?