Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-3

Venus Fly Trap

(2): Salsabil Faria, SirCakez

Nachomamma8

(2): Infinity 324, Venus Fly Trap

The Bulge

(1): notscience

notscience

(1): The Bulge

Not_Mafia

(1): Nachomamma8

Not Voting

(5): Leafeon and Glaceon, Not_Mafia, Brave Heart Lion, Kismet, Disaster Cartel

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline: April 26, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-04-25 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Not_Mafia and Brave Heart Lion have 48 hours in which to post before I must search for a replacement. (expired on 2021-04-13 17:23:59)
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[Salsabil Faria]

If you're an alt, then your 5 is a lie??

what

You said on your post 5 that you never played in this setup but you're an alt, right? If so, then you may actually played in this setup before just not from this current account?

[Kismet]

I like skitt as well I think

I can see this and I like the tone in 48 overall, even if I've been grilling her before now.
Would be curious to as to any insight on that read, as I think it's one of high priority

[Kismet]

also i have another guess for u!

feel free i just don't want to monopolize the game w/ that
(which i believe is the exact thing i said the last time i decided to play on an alt)

[Nachomamma8]

this is weird to me, like yes we might all decide that he's the best compromise wagon today or some day or whatever, but in general i feel like we can do better, esp. on day1, esp since he just abt never has any useful interactions to sort other people with.
if we just do this early on and he's town and we flip him we just let scum jettison their weakest player, and if he's scum and we flip him we just lose our strongest player
(and honestly in most universes depending on who the scumteam is that's like ... my slot or yours)
so like

I mean if something better comes up I'm all for it but as for right now we know that we're taking an L on Not_Mafia if town eventually (maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually) - if he's mafia then we have one shot and one shot only to kill him and that's right this second.

If he flips town it sucks, but if we flip any town day 1 it sucks same as usual so I don't necessarily understand the point you're making here.

And if I'm the strongest town player then we're already screwed sooo...

[Kismet]

You said on your post 5 that you never played in this setup but you're an alt, right? If so, then you may actually played in this setup before just not from this current account?

I mean the fact that you have to take me at my word doesn't mean I'm lying. I've really not played this setup.

[Kismet]

I mean if something better comes up I'm all for it but as for right now we know that we're taking an L on Not_Mafia if town eventually (maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually) - if he's mafia then we have one shot and one shot only to kill him and that's right this second.

We literally don't even have to kill him to win. I'm having a hard time seeing where you're going with this.

[Nachomamma8]

Y’all leave not mafia alone until I have time to read him tyvm

You can read him while I'm shipping him off to a sweet slumber. Diamonds are made under pressure after all.

[Nachomamma8]

I mean if something better comes up I'm all for it but as for right now we know that we're taking an L on Not_Mafia if town eventually (maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually) - if he's mafia then we have one shot and one shot only to kill him and that's right this second.

We literally don't even have to kill him to win. I'm having a hard time seeing where you're going with this.

We don't have to kill him to win. If he's scum we only have one day to get a sweet point out of him.

[Nachomamma8]

but it's the first thing i saw that could potentially be worth a real vote

i'm not trying to get to strength of conviction here, i'm more just asking "if this is a scum play, what is nacho actually trying to do w/ it" because at first glance it just seems like something you don't understand or agree with

trying to get an easy flip without too much discussion if possible to get to night faster
(again i'm not saying he is doing that per se but if he were scum i think that that's what his goal would be)

~ skitter

And here I thought that what I was doing was controversial, something that would make me the center of attention.

[Salsabil Faria]

I mean if something better comes up I'm all for it but as for right now we know that we're taking an L on Not_Mafia if town eventually (maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually) - if he's mafia then we have one shot and one shot only to kill him and that's right this second.

We literally don't even have to kill him to win. I'm having a hard time seeing where you're going with this.

We don't have to kill him to win. If he's scum we only have one day to get a sweet point out of him.

Why we only have one day?

[Nachomamma8]

policying NM is my idea of a good time

-Mena

Then take my heart and let's go on a magic carpet ride together.

[Nachomamma8]

I mean if something better comes up I'm all for it but as for right now we know that we're taking an L on Not_Mafia if town eventually (maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually) - if he's mafia then we have one shot and one shot only to kill him and that's right this second.

We literally don't even have to kill him to win. I'm having a hard time seeing where you're going with this.

We don't have to kill him to win. If he's scum we only have one day to get a sweet point out of him.

Why we only have one day?

Because his team will sacrifice him the first opportunity they get. I know I would if scum!

[Nachomamma8]

If you're an alt, then your 5 is a lie??

what

You said on your post 5 that you never played in this setup but you're an alt, right? If so, then you may actually played in this setup before just not from this current account?

This is a convoluted play if Salsa is scum here.

The chances of Not_Mafia being scum and us having to hit him today rise.

[Kismet]

If he's scum we only have one day to get a sweet point out of him.

Why? I can easily see n_m being a either a 2-0 hedge flip or a last second hail mary to try to save the game (although that probably wouldn't be my move in most cases but I can't predict the future)

why is he only elimmable d1?

p-edit: if some of these questions aren't being asked in good faith (i.e. trying to use them to bait reactions rather than meaning them in earnest then fair enough, but otherwise I don't really see what makes his viability so temporally dependent)

p-p-edit: eh.

[Kismet]

This is a convoluted play if Salsa is scum here.

The chances of Not_Mafia being scum and us having to hit him today rise.

????????????????????????????

[Salsabil Faria]

Btw, I've a question in my mind for some days, but keep forgetting about it. I remember now so will ask here....
What does

ship someone

(or the spelling is sheep??) mean? I googled it but couldn't understand properly.

[Nachomamma8]

Btw, I've a question in my mind for some days, but keep forgetting about it. I remember now so will ask here....
What does

ship someone

(or the spelling is sheep??) mean? I googled it but couldn't understand properly.

In the context in which I used it, it means to send. Sending someone to sleep means killing them.

[Venus Fly Trap]

'ugh might as well just do it and get it over with

I'm not convinced of that interpretation at this time

I will say that i think this take on nacho's entrance is the correct one tbh

Wrt to salsa i think he's saying he's getting town glimmers from her so she isnt going to be the 'easy flip to get a point' if scum the same way he's viewing nm apparently, but i dont really agree with him that this is the best way to use today and/or to handle nm

[Salsabil Faria]

If you're an alt, then your 5 is a lie??

what

You said on your post 5 that you never played in this setup but you're an alt, right? If so, then you may actually played in this setup before just not from this current account?

This is a convoluted play if Salsa is scum here.

The chances of Not_Mafia being scum and us having to hit him today rise.

You're a paranoid player, aren't you?

[Kismet]

Nacho

like unless you're confident that he's easier to finagle a point out of than other people in the playerlist
I don't understand what any of this song and dance is about

[Kismet]

Wrt to salsa i think he's saying he's getting town glimmers from her

i know I just don't see that from that line of questioning from salsa, it seems not something that anyone could reasonably expect to push me on and therefore pretty null

[Salsabil Faria]

Wrt to salsa i think he's saying he's getting town glimmers from her so she isnt going to be the 'easy flip to get a point' if scum the same way he's viewing nm apparently, but i dont really agree with him that this is the best way to use today and/or to handle nm

I'm sorry but who are you talking about?

[Kismet]

hard tunnels get potentially interesting in this kind of setup because scum are inclined to do them, win that day, and just peace out of the game the next day after the flip makes them look horrible

i think we should be insisting that people take a fairly breadth-first approach to the game.

[Venus Fly Trap]

I mean if something better comes up I'm all for it but as for right now we know that we're taking an L on Not_Mafia if town eventually (maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually) - if he's mafia then we have one shot and one shot only to kill him and that's right this second.

If he flips town it sucks, but if we flip any town day 1 it sucks same as usual so I don't necessarily understand the point you're making here.

And if I'm the strongest town player then we're already screwed sooo...

- why are yoh assuming nm is gonna get flipped at all? Like you're preassuming we're for sure gonna flip him when i'm not sure that's the case
- unless he's like exactly scum and the whole scumteam decides to go and defend him, flipping nm is usually kinda a waste from an infoflip perspective cuz he usually has like no interactions
- kinda feels like you're willing to basically lose an easy point to maybe get an easy point but i feel like by actualky utilizing the day we can make a much stronger flip and actually have some more useful info going into the night instead 'meh might as well flip nm anyways and let scum do whatever'
- like you're kinda basically taking a cointoss that might have a good outcome and might not instead of actually trying to get something good and meaningful accomplished with the day
- arent u supposed to be, like, good at this?

Pedit yeah i dont know *why* he thinks that townie from salsa tho
Also salsa that was abt u