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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:14 pm

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In post 148, Disaster Cartel wrote:
In post 90, Venus Fly Trap wrote:Bad vote >:(
Also y

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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:14 pm

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In post 98, Venus Fly Trap wrote:policy elims are bad. policy elims on NM are bad. policy elims on NM in this setup are bad. we should just kill the person we think is most likely to be scum.

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Have u literally forgotten JK9++ already? The game we nearly lost (should’ve lost) bc of not policy limming NM despite me saying repeatedly that we should do for like 3 days?

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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:15 pm

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In post 151, Disaster Cartel wrote:
In post 98, Venus Fly Trap wrote:policy elims are bad. policy elims on NM are bad. policy elims on NM in this setup are bad. we should just kill the person we think is most likely to be scum.

- lilith
Have u literally forgotten JK9++ already? The game we nearly lost (should’ve lost) bc of not policy limming NM despite me saying repeatedly that we should do for like 3 days?

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Ok but this is not a normal setup so I'm gonna need more than this
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:15 pm

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We dont need to flip him if he's scum to win tho

The situation isnt really the same

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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:15 pm

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I stg if we have to have another conversation about policy limming and why it’s worth it I will put my face through my desk given the context

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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:16 pm

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why does it matter

He’s scum or he isn’t, purely from rand it’s basically 50/50’and he’s not gonna play or be readable throughout the game?

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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 151, Disaster Cartel wrote:
In post 98, Venus Fly Trap wrote:policy elims are bad. policy elims on NM are bad. policy elims on NM in this setup are bad. we should just kill the person we think is most likely to be scum.

- lilith
Have u literally forgotten JK9++ already? The game we nearly lost (should’ve lost) bc of not policy limming NM despite me saying repeatedly that we should do for like 3 days?

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??? the.. the game I was scum in?

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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:17 pm

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Mena why are you like prickly

Pedit no u werent in that one
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:17 pm

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O right, yeh I forgot which side u were on but my point still holds

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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:17 pm

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In post 155, Disaster Cartel wrote:why does it matter

He’s scum or he isn’t, purely from rand it’s basically 50/50’and he’s not gonna play or be readable throughout the game?

-Mena
So we can just...ignore him. And lim the (other) scum. Idgi

@lilith you weren't in the most recent jk9++
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:18 pm

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Can both of you put avatars in I’m too lazy to read names I like looking at pictures

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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:19 pm

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Probably bc I slept like an hour and a half from 11 until after midnight and have spent most of the night losing in teamfight tactics

Also because I literally, like actually literally had to have this argument in JK9++, let it go, we got shitwagoned for the trouble and then NM was scum all along

Do u see why this is frustrating to have to run through again? Im not getting why the setup is so different that it’s not worth it

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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:21 pm

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Or we could let the game breathe and if we really can’t come up with a better option and need a deadline scramble then we decide to go there
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:21 pm

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Also we can read NM based on who's pushing and defending them. Were more likely to get earlier scumflips in this setup that most

So far it's looking pretty good for NM

PEdit: sorry mena being sleep deprived sucks :(

Also the setup is different because we don't have to ever deal with NM and because each elim is worth more than in a different setup.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:22 pm

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As I said earlier, if we're up 2-0 and we're struggling to find a third and he's alive, we should have that convo.

I consider this similar to like an at-bat in baseball; if you get ahead in the count, either as a batter or pitcher, you have the unique opportunity to make a conservative play w/ some guaranteed value in it akin to not swinging at a 3-0 pitch and seeing if the pitcher will screw up themselves.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:22 pm

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In post 159, Infinity 324 wrote:So we can just...ignore him. And lim the (other) scum. Idgi
If he is scum then the odds of limming scum go to like 4/10 if we just leave him alone and if he’s town then I p much guarantee scum will push for him in lylo esp if he quickhammers along the way and then it will be a pure gamble

I’m saying let’s get the busywork out of the way and then get on with the actual gsme. If he’s town, liability removed and we’re playing on slightly hard mode. If he’s scum, cool, free lim

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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:23 pm

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I bet mena eats his vegetables before his starches
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 162, notscience wrote:Or we could let the game breathe and if we really can’t come up with a better option and need a deadline scramble then we decide to go there
I’m not saying we speed lim I’m saying that the only reason policy lims don’t work is bc people get attached to their pet SRs which most of the time aren’t any better than rand, and we should just play it safe and agree that we’re limming NM unless someone basically claims scum

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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 166, notscience wrote:I bet mena eats his vegetables before his starches
I mean, obviously yes?

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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 164, Kismet wrote:I consider this similar to like an at-bat in baseball; if you get ahead in the count, either as a batter or pitcher, you have the unique opportunity to make a conservative play w/ some guaranteed value in it akin to not swinging at a 3-0 pitch and seeing if the pitcher will screw up themselves.
I like this analogy

I don't particularly feel like arguing this back and forth so I'm gonna stick with only voting NM if a bunch of my townreads are on the wagon

PoE is another great way to sort NM and was a good reason to lim them in jk9++ too imo
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 pm

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Also, I will consult with ydra on avi choice and prob let her pick whatever she wants

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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm

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according to skitt/infinity I was not in that game so I don't get why you're upset with me in particular about it.

also we have an avatar now.

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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm

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Also assuming we’re talking about the game I was scum in too

I knew he was scum but I was scumreading him like in my town lens

So meh I don’t think he’s that had to read
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm

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Mena we've talked abt this like 6 billion times already but i really kinda fundementally disagree with u abt ur approach to not mafia

But, i do think the frustration you're exhibiting on this page given the context is townie for you

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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:27 pm

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Mena was hydra'ing with ydra the thing she messaged you about postgame of divide and conquer
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