Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

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Vote Count 1-6

Nachomamma8

(3): Venus Fly Trap, Infinity 324, notscience

Not_Mafia

(3): Disaster Cartel, Not_Mafia, Nachomamma8

Disaster Cartel

(2): Salsabil Faria, SirCakez

notscience

(1): The Bulge

Leafeon and Glaceon

(1): Kismet

Not Voting

(2): Brave Heart Lion, Leafeon and Glaceon

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline: April 26, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-04-25 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Brave Heart Lion is v/la until April 15
Salsabil Farai is v/la until April 16
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[Disaster Cartel]

I wasn’t pissed at you I was just a bit frustrated that EVERYONE was shooting it down

bc I have no baseline or any idea of who it is and that inherently makes me slightly +sus unless it’s hectic (which it apparently isn’t)

I’m not SRing them, I just feel uneasy with the slot

-Mena

not thrilled with this progression in that, uncharitably, i want to interpret it as:

mena: "hey skitter, are you up for me chipping away at that kismet townread?"
skitter: NO SALE
mena: <darn, better change tack on that and make it more just general paranoia about the fact that i don't know who i'm dealing with>

which like isn't a terrible angle in and of itself, but two things: 1) dunno why you single me out there if your read just boils down to "dunno spooky alt", and 2) you've taken the whole "i've tried nothing and am out of ideas" approach to reading me so far

only that’s not what happened? I wanted to know why skitt was TRing you bc you’re evidently experienced but I have no idea what your scumgame is like from a range of like FL to kerset

I singled you out bc u were the only one I didn’t get from skitt’s pov (infinity isn’t town either yet, but skitt generally slaps a read on her earlier than I will)

And like yeh, no shit I haven’t tried reading u yet, hence why i was surprised to see skitt professing a TR on a v unknown quality in a game where there’s like, reasonable incentive for scum to TR each other

-Mena

[Disaster Cartel]

Disaster Cartel is AWFUL

go on

-Mena

[Leafeon and Glaceon]

VOTE: sircakez

i didn't like the catchup

i don't think his reasoning is very thorough and seems to be fairly tailored towards not sticking out in thread state, plus some of his reactions (specifically @ DC) felt kinda overblown

~leaf

[Disaster Cartel]

In more detail than “yikes” and “seems fake”

-Mena

[SirCakez]

VOTE: sircakez

i didn't like the catchup

i don't think his reasoning is very thorough and seems to be fairly tailored towards not sticking out in thread state, plus some of his reactions (specifically @ DC) felt kinda overblown

~leaf

what does this even mean

[Leafeon and Glaceon]

VOTE: sircakez

i didn't like the catchup

i don't think his reasoning is very thorough and seems to be fairly tailored towards not sticking out in thread state, plus some of his reactions (specifically @ DC) felt kinda overblown

~leaf

what does this even mean

i thought it was fairly easy to understand.

~leaf

[notscience]

I like that Cakez has all the same townreads as nacho but doesn’t seem to take that into account or comment on it at all in his scumread

/s

[SirCakez]

I stg if we have to have another conversation about policy limming and why it’s worth it I will put my face through my desk given the context

-Mena

this post just doesn't make any sense as town. why is he so opposed to this conversation? it's not like the thread was getting blown up
the "put my face through desk" comment seems like a huge exaggeration

I have one tentative TR so fsr

he has no development of reads as stated

I'm not confident notsci is town, should I be?

Notsci is my one TR lol

-Mena

and notsci? doesn't make any sense

I wasn’t pissed at you I was just a bit frustrated that EVERYONE was shooting it down

bc I have no baseline or any idea of who it is and that inherently makes me slightly +sus unless it’s hectic (which it apparently isn’t)

I’m not SRing them, I just feel uneasy with the slot

-Mena

uneasy but not SRing is such a cop-out

I just really hate the posting around NM and notsci

[SirCakez]

I like that Cakez has all the same townreads as nacho but doesn’t seem to take that into account or comment on it at all in his scumread

/s

who cares? why does this matter?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: sircakez

i didn't like the catchup

i don't think his reasoning is very thorough and seems to be fairly tailored towards not sticking out in thread state, plus some of his reactions (specifically @ DC) felt kinda overblown

~leaf

what does this even mean

i thought it was fairly easy to understand.

~leaf

how are my stances "tailored" towards not sticking out?
how were my reactions to DC overblown?

[Kismet]

only that’s not what happened? I wanted to know why skitt was TRing you bc you’re evidently experienced but I have no idea what your scumgame is like from a range of like FL to kerset

I singled you out bc u were the only one I didn’t get from skitt’s pov (infinity isn’t town either yet, but skitt generally slaps a read on her earlier than I will)

And like yeh, no shit I haven’t tried reading u yet, hence why i was surprised to see skitt professing a TR on a v unknown quality in a game where there’s like, reasonable incentive for scum to TR each other

i'm aware i'm spinning this a bit because i think that might be the potential reason for scum to approach from that angle.

i wasn't really considering the point of you trying to force skitter to legitimize her read on me, and that's fair.

overall, i have a decent amount of content out there and i guess i am expecting at least some engagement on it though, but if your primary focus is on skitter at this point in time rather than me with that progression, that really does change my interpretation of your trajectory and i don't mind it as much.

[notscience]

Similar views on the game state usually indicate similar POV aka similar alignment

[SirCakez]

Similar views on the game state usually indicate similar POV aka similar alignment

we completely disagree about SRs and who to elim though

[notscience]

All of your scumreads sans me are in his scum pool lmao

[Leafeon and Glaceon]

VOTE: sircakez

i didn't like the catchup

i don't think his reasoning is very thorough and seems to be fairly tailored towards not sticking out in thread state, plus some of his reactions (specifically @ DC) felt kinda overblown

~leaf

what does this even mean

i thought it was fairly easy to understand.

~leaf

how are my stances "tailored" towards not sticking out?
how were my reactions to DC overblown?

all of the reads you mentioned were slots that weren't likely to have a lot of discussion around them - you made reads on every slot except the two top wagons and the 0 poster

and the "YIKES" thing stuck out to me as overly performative

~leaf

[notscience]

I like

Kismet

,

Salsa

and

Infinity

. Not crazy about

notsci

,

L+G

, or

Venus Fly Trap

. I can have lots of scumreads in this game

Done reading. Disaster Cartel is AWFUL and I do not want to move my vote. Nacho is also just ??????? leaning towards scum. All of the hydras are not good actually.

good

Kismet
Salsabil Faria
Infinity 324

good?

notscience

bad
SirCakez

Leafeon and Glaceon

(beeboy, Mistyx hydra)
Not_Mafia
Brave Heart Lion

Disaster Cartel

(Menalque, Ydrasse hydra)

Venus Fly Trap

(skitter30, lilith2013 hydra)
The Bulge

[notscience]

Pretend I made DC's name red in the second post I missed that one

[SirCakez]

VOTE: sircakez

i didn't like the catchup

i don't think his reasoning is very thorough and seems to be fairly tailored towards not sticking out in thread state, plus some of his reactions (specifically @ DC) felt kinda overblown

~leaf

what does this even mean

i thought it was fairly easy to understand.

~leaf

how are my stances "tailored" towards not sticking out?
how were my reactions to DC overblown?

all of the reads you mentioned were slots that weren't likely to have a lot of discussion around them - you made reads on every slot except the two top wagons and the 0 poster

and the "YIKES" thing stuck out to me as overly performative

~leaf

I already made my stance on N_M clear and I did say I didn't like Nacho's posts
you can think that about yikes w/e

All of your scumreads sans me are in his scum pool lmao

oops mb
my point is I don't think we have the same perspective on this game at all
just look at his posts and what he's arguing for

[notscience]

Like I'm not disputing nacho has been weird because he has and this not_maf business in general is dumb

but I'm a little concerned that you didn't look at that reads list and go "How does my view of the game line up with this" because I think that's a fairly common core town-thought to have. Like yeah, maybe I'm off on your perspectives but not even trying to reconcile that with your reads is concerning.

[Infinity 324]

This still isn't the town!mist I know, beeboy still hasn't posted, eeveelutions are scum

[SirCakez]

Like I'm not disputing nacho has been weird because he has and this not_maf business in general is dumb

but I'm a little concerned that you didn't look at that reads list and go "How does my view of the game line up with this" because I think that's a fairly common core town-thought to have. Like yeah, maybe I'm off on your perspectives but not even trying to reconcile that with your reads is concerning.

The reads are similar but I can't reconcile Nacho's play so far this game with mine. Frankly I'm very surprised that our reads are so similar (I didn't notice this during my catchup) because when I read Nacho's posts they feel totally alien to me.

[SirCakez]

Because his team will sacrifice him the first opportunity they get. I know I would if scum!

Hmm I'm not sure I agree with this. If we can't read NM (notsci thinks he kinda can but less assume that for a sec) then they're always rand scum, and if our reads are any good then our best scumread should be >rand scum. The reason we can policy lim NM in a normal setup is that we can spend elims to narrow down the PoE, where we don't have that luxury here. Also, it's gonna be hard to get the votes to lim them unless they're town. So I'll only vote NM if the wagon on them is very towny.

As I've said before, I'm more than happy to move elsewhere if something better comes up.

I might have been a little more dramatic than necessary with the presentation of things yesterday which is why everyone apparently thinks the only think I will ever care about is Not_Mafia's day 1 death, but my point is that eliminating the weak link from the mafia team because mafia can sacrifice them would be a significant win. The person I see mafia as most likely to sacrifice is Not Mafia. As a result, he deserves extra scrutiny - I don't plan on letting him get past today unless he actually does something that looks town.

Example - this post

[notscience]

Page 8 Hero Solve-
(Nacho/Bulge (one but not both), Mena hydra, Cakez, L+G, Brave Heart Lion)

Just reminding myself of this dont mind me

Ninja-
When you see a readslist in game how do you approach it Cakez?

[SirCakez]

it depends. Usually I go through it to see if they have any reads I egregiously disagree with but I was skimming today because I had a lot to read and have a lot going on so that didn't happen.