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On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologistIdic- Leafeon and Glaceon
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(me expanding on my last post)
This more comes down to my general mafia theory that people who are annoyed are > rand town while people who get mad are > rand scum. This is generally not always true so I never really explain this to people since there is 101 examples of mad town but honestly I find annoyed town is something that is relatively hard to find, and even then it sits on the line of someone who is mad. Which could come down to how I think people tend to react while trying to brainstorm vs trying to fool people. Idk, nor do I care about other peoples opinions on this because wording how I feel about the nuance of peoples emotions is incredibly hard.
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nice pre-emptive shade!In post 514, Kismet wrote:In post 391, Disaster Cartel wrote:
nonanswer,In post 364, Kismet wrote:
is this a rolleyes because you think you got a nonanswer here (the answer made sense to me)In post 355, Disaster Cartel wrote:(1) :rolleyes:
or is it a rolleyes because you think you should be higher?I agree with like, whoever it was that said I haven’t been particularly towny yet
I’m gonna let ydrasse do the obvtowning for our slot probably
-Menameanwhile in cogdis land (that i expect to get picked apart semantically for mentioning)
My not thinking it makes sense that I should be townread in general =/= I don’t think nacho shouldn’t be townreading me more and find it kinda weird he isn’t given that I’ve been on a similar trajectory to him but also, importantly, have gotten there on some things before him (like voting leafy). Given that I can’t just be sheeping him bc of that, I find it weird that someone who’s coming to the game from a v similar viewpoint in many ways, he doesn’t see as town- Infinity 324
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This is interesting, it might speak to a difference between being annoyed but feeling justified in that and being annoyed (mad) but knowing you're wrong and you have to keep arguing because you're scum. I wonder if that's why I try to stick to things I believe even as scum, channeling that "mad" energy is hard for meIn post 526, Leafeon and Glaceon wrote:(me expanding on my last post)
This more comes down to my general mafia theory that people who are annoyed are > rand town while people who get mad are > rand scum. This is generally not always true so I never really explain this to people since there is 101 examples of mad town but honestly I find annoyed town is something that is relatively hard to find, and even then it sits on the line of someone who is mad. Which could come down to how I think people tend to react while trying to brainstorm vs trying to fool people. Idk, nor do I care about other peoples opinions on this because wording how I feel about the nuance of peoples emotions is incredibly hard.
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@beeboy I know you just said you don't like readslists but scum are gonna figure out who I SR anyway, and I think this is important
{bulge, DC, NM, mom, nacho, cakez}
@bork, skitt Who do you think is most likely scum outside this pool?- Disaster Cartel
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Ik you're gonna hate this but...PoE
I did think the way you were asking everyone about their reads on you was pretty towny, but I'm probably gonna read your slot based on ydrasse anyway
Tbf maybe salsa should be in that pool too? I went back and checked and I'm not sure why I'm TRing her- Disaster Cartel
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Spoiler: kismet
This is just from the beginning of the game, I could keep going (I liked him TRing me for TRing eeveelutions) but this is enough to justify my read for now
I'll do skitt in a bit- Leafeon and Glaceon
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cause and effect. i don't care about whether the readlists have explanations inline, i was showing that i look at it and i don't have really any idea why most of those are where they are, because you haven't been doing anything that i see that is leading you to those conclusions.In post 524, Disaster Cartel wrote:that’s not my point, my point is that you apparently had no problem with there not being an explanation tacked onto every read when nacho did it but when I did it needed to be pointed out
that isn't how i feel about nacho, but let's also not make this about nacho, please. i'll sort nacho as the opportunity presents itself, i have vectors/reads to engage him on (as i now do for you as well, but your progression on me so far is the most suspect thing in that list so here we are), and i hate the "whataboutism" you're exhibiting with the assumption that i have no issues with what nacho is doing, something that i feel is not justifiably extracted from my play, as a vehicle to make my issues with you seem less reasonable.- Infinity 324
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--bank itIn post 437, Nachomamma8 wrote:What are your current reads?
Infinity
--looks good enough
vft
noddy
------- d2 pass threshold
-- conflicted, likely high level of variance w/ several rereads by me / events in game due to activity level
cakez
nacho
-- conflicted, unlikely to vary much unless activity level improves
l&g
-- major issues
dc
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---------- not on the same axis
-- no real read
not_mafia
mara
salsa
bulge
i obviously want to get more people above that line and at least out of the "no real read" group. I'm taking points on salsa under advisement - i've never experienced her as town before -- but i think what i said early applies - the bar is too low for me to feel comfortable with.- Kismet
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felt good on reread.In post 108, Salsabil Faria wrote:You can finally see my towniness
but again, there's not much here.- Kismet
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I agreeIn post 540, Kismet wrote:
felt good on reread.In post 108, Salsabil Faria wrote:You can finally see my towniness
but again, there's not much here.- Momrangal
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well, i mean, maybe don't have bad tone? i'm not really sure the problem is with me when two different people said the same thing nowIn post 486, Nachomamma8 wrote:You two are bad tonereaders.
Wrt Infinity am not surprised because he just seems to be stuck in tunnel mode.
Wrt skitter I'm still waiting for your scumread to evolve past its premise.
also my read *has* evolved (namely, i think your interactions with cakez are awful), thank you
this whole post is like trying to handwave away criticism while you yourself are acknowledging a few posts up that this isn't the way you typically play as town so like
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this is kinda what i mean by 'icky' tone. tbf i wasn't in that game and don't know what beef you two have but this only makes sense as town to me if you have, like, some sort of major grudge against him to the point where you're still mad however many months later and his every post you just loathe and insta-scumreadIn post 345, Nachomamma8 wrote:You don't get to play with nice Nacho after you drove me to wanting to gouge my eyeballs out with a McFlurry spoon in Popcorn Mafia. I will not be putting myself through that hell again, and if you want to play the same game that you played with us last time, I won't be only person having a bad time.
which idk tbf i don't really know you either so for all i know this isn't abnormal but like from what i hear i'm having a hard time seeing you approach him that way as town
like here at least i dont' think he's done anything to deserve this level of animus so this whole post has this like prickly/aggressive edge which doesn't really match what's actually happened in this game, it looks like you're picking a fight almost and idk why.
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right ... and i'm arguing that you're scum hereIn post 349, Nachomamma8 wrote:But instead, when I pushed for his death, there was Mena and no one else.Which seems to increase chances of there being scum in {me, Not_Mafia}, no?
I'm not scum trying to get the easy flip because I tried to policy lynch him from page one. I've been around long enough to realize that policy lynching doesn't typically work.
wrt the second line i'm not sure if you're trying to say 'i didn't try to get a policy flip on him (and that's something scum would do) so i'm not scum' or 'scum don't try to get policy flips and i did so i'm not scum'
but for the former it did read like you were trying to get a policy flip on him. with a whole lotta mechanical reasonign, sure, but that's fundmentally what it boiled down to
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also you've moved beyond thta, sure, when that didn't really work out, but you were plugging it p hard at the beginning, and doubled down when people initially objected soIn post 348, Nachomamma8 wrote:You and Skitter both keep pretending like all I am interested in today is policying Not Mafia or bust.
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feels like you're neither trying to sort me nor engage with me and i feel like u should beIn post 482, Disaster Cartel wrote:
Do you mean why am I not trying to read you or something else?In post 479, Venus Fly Trap wrote:Also mena y r u playing around me ?
-Mena
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Can you show me one instance of scum recently pushing a policy lynch? I haven't seen it in a while but I also haven't been active in a while so maybe my experience is a bit skewed."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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ok tbf this is the closest example i can find in my recnet games - fark's argumnt was basically that penguin was lowhanging fruit who wasn't playing (and wouldn't be playing as either alignment) and that's what he kept using to push penguin. he didn't literally call it a policy-lim but his reasoning basically boiled down to him being unreadable and lhf so why notFarkran wrote:Alisae is mad
And this is probably town indicative for er but eh
Pretty sure e can be mad as scum too, just maybe less likely
I can compromise on PP but not my fav choice, like,PP would always play like this regardless of align and he feels like being lhf-ed ever since suji, but in retrospect i guess the original wagon in suji (luca day norw pooky) wasn't so bad either
SS is funny bc literally the only vote he ever received is his own
fark was scum and penguin was town (who got flipped that day)
this was my most recent completed towngame i think, from like a few weeks ago
and i dont' see many other examples recently so fair enuf, you have a point in that it's not super common, but even so that doesn't make the push good
and i'm kinda more interested in the tone/cakez stuff now
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