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[osuka]

drunk DADDY

[Datisi]

vote count 1.16

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-04-21 10:15:00).

execution

Andante [3]:

Green Crayons, InsidiousLemons, Save The Dragons

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

Salsabil Faria, Robert M Hunter

InsidiousLemons [2]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Andante

VFP [2]:

osuka, Andresvmb

Andresvmb [1]:

Asteria

Asteria [1]:

Anya

Robert M Hunter [1]:

VFP

not voting [1]:

Haschel Cedricson

mod notes

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[Datisi]

prodding salsabil faria and haschel cedricson.

[Salsabil Faria]

I skimmed through the last few pages, properly catch up later. In the meantime,

We must kill the White Wizard to prepare the way for full invasion.

VOTE: InsidiousLemons

Damn you!
How serious your vote is?

I've changed my mind on Pooky actually.

Andante does have a high chance of scum imo.
But right now Robert isn't getting any pressure.

VOTE: Robert

For a slot that is coming across as so scummy there's lack of pressure here.

VOTE: Andante

I played/am playing with

PookyTheMagicalBear

where their playstyle seems actually similar, one game which recently postponed, they were town there but the other game is ongoing so can't talk about it. My point is, I can't read them, some other players say/said they are the same on any alignment (this gameplay can be easily faked imo), which makes it even harder to sort them. I am not gonna change my vote because of

PawnsGambit

yet, and I also don't find town motivation from their replacement as it happened after they were getting pressure.

@Save The Dragons

, why do you think

Andante

isn't noob-town but noob-scum?

[Salsabil Faria]

prodding salsabil faria and haschel cedricson.

Sorry Mod! Reminds me not to take more games at the same time

[Datisi]

prodding robert m hunter and green crayons.

[Green Crayons]

uhhh not really, too hard to explain, I'm gonna go play in the snow (we have a snow storm right now) and when I'm back I'm ISOing Haschel, and if he's been here for 5 days with no content, I'm voting him, would rather keep people who try.

VOTE: lemons

I thought I flipped it last... oops

What content did you find then?

[Green Crayons]

I feel like scum are trying to hide behind humour at this stage of the game.

Why do you have this feeling

Who is hiding behind humor

Why is humor AI here

[Robert M Hunter]

Daddy prodded me.

I read players posting that Pooky is hard to read.

I hope you're right about Andante and I'm wrong.

STD suggesting I fell for Andante's AtE struck me as scummy.

[Andante]

I feel like scum are trying to hide behind humour at this stage of the game.

What kind of line is this?? lmaooo

[Andante]

bruh. it's ben 24 hours, I'm literally just yalls low hanging fruit, do yall plan on actually finding scum or is the plan to vote me, have me flip green, then go "andante was just bad" like, I'm not flipping red

[Andante]

pooky is not hard to read, he brings entertainment to the game, fun to play with, gonna be way easier to read than those not posting

I tried finding Haschel's ISO, idk what page he last posted on, I just remember him getting prodded a bunch and entering going "sorry work" like, and I remember seeing it twice, and I've seen nothing else from him.

[Andante]

pooky, is robert a servant of darkness or one of the fellows in the fellowship

This line is literally coming from scum

VOTE: Save The Dragons

[Save The Dragons]

@Save The Dragons, why do you think Andante isn't noob-town but noob-scum?

i'm actually giving her some credit for her chat mafia experience here. she could be noob-town but there's a lot going against her

- overreacting to getting targeted
- appeal to emotion for getting wagoned
- her confusing scum reads (seems to think i'm confscum but is voting lemons and i'm not sure what the case against lemons is)
- gut read on the slot

if it were just one of these things i might be just a little wary, but all of them in conjunction are bothering me enough to think she might be scum here.

pedit looks like i got voted

[Save The Dragons]

pooky, is robert a servant of darkness or one of the fellows in the fellowship

This line is literally coming from scum

VOTE: Save The Dragons

let's talk about this

why does it come from scum

[Save The Dragons]

my problem with pooky is that i'm expecting some content from the slot even through the RPing.

To kill two birds with one stone, Andante, i'm assuming that the darkness is Pooky's reads on town and the good characters are Pooky's reads on scum. So me asking about Robert is trying to figure out whether Pooky thinks robert is scum or not. but i'm not sure if his reads are just arbitrary or if he's actually bothered to play the game yet.

[Andante]

@Save The Dragons, why do you think Andante isn't noob-town but noob-scum?

i'm actually giving her some credit for her chat mafia experience here. she could be noob-town but there's a lot going against her

- overreacting to getting targeted
- appeal to emotion for getting wagoned
- her confusing scum reads (seems to think i'm confscum but is voting lemons and i'm not sure what the case against lemons is)
- gut read on the slot

if it were just one of these things i might be just a little wary, but all of them in conjunction are bothering me enough to think she might be scum here.

pedit looks like i got voted

your reaction when I flip green is literally going to be "yeah she's noob, guess I should've expected her to act like that as town" like, you have 0 confidence I'm scum. your "reasons" I'm scum have nothing to do with the actual lines I've said.

- overreaction to getting targeted

* so what? who literally cares how I react to anything? look at my lines instead. I hate pressure, not my fault, can't help it. I've almost never had pressure on me cause I can towntell so well

- appeal to emotion for getting wagoned

* ok, so what? my reaction to votes on me. I don't think I've really ATE'd much this game, want me to just sit here going "guys I'm bad! take it easy on me!!!" cause I'm not doing that, I know I'm not complete trash at this, and my main goal is trying to figure out who is scum and who is annoying town right now.

- her confusing scum reads (seems to think i'm confscum but is voting lemons and i'm not sure what the case against lemons is)

* My confusing scumreads? I've given reasons for everything, and you're more than welcome to ask me about a vote/specific read. You'd rather avoid asking me questions, and just go "so confusing"?? Cause that feels real towny to me..

- gut read on the slot

gut read? I've been trying real hard to find scum, this feels like you putting words down to make your post seem longer to try and intimidate me... Why would any of us here care about a gut read, when your only argument for me is "her reads confuse me, she over reacts, and this is what my gut says" If you're playing this on your gut read, and giving me 0 credit this game, going "she could be noob-town" to set up for me flipping town, trying to discredit anything I say, if anything, this makes me feel more like I'm on the right track.


I'm not claiming to be a professional scumhunter, but let me say, I'm far from bad. And I know you fail to see it, but I quite honestly do. not. care. If you can't actually articulate a read/ give examples of posts, what makes you think your gut is right?? like, nothing you said against me is even relevant without links to posts, so if you wanna go, let's go, I'd love to hear more on how noob/bad I am.


I look forward to your response!
- Andante

[Andante]

my problem with pooky is that i'm expecting some content from the slot even through the RPing.

To kill two birds with one stone, Andante, i'm assuming that the darkness is Pooky's reads on town and the good characters are Pooky's reads on scum. So me asking about Robert is trying to figure out whether Pooky thinks robert is scum or not. but i'm not sure if his reads are just arbitrary or if he's actually bothered to play the game yet.

From every game I've played with Pooky, that stuff is how he plays. Why would scum enter the game going "YES IM SCUM" or whatever?? I liked one of Pawn's lines towards the end too, like right before he subbed out.

I think I am low hanging fruit tbh. You have a little different personality and a few people line up like wolves. Not the majority though.

I genuinely felt that line, like on a personal level, like right now I'm definitely feeling like the LHF, it's very discouraging, and gives some really strong town points to Pooky, like, I'm not voting him out today, not sure why all yall are like "OMG POOKY!!! I can't read him!!!" ummm he's way easier to read than a handful of you

[Andante]

but hey, this whole game is "amateur hour" and Andante is "noob scum" unless they happen to be "noob town"

One of the biggest things you want from a flip is some sort of info after the flip, and the way this is going, you flip me, they everyone throws hands up in the air going "yeah that wasn't on me!!!"

Someone who's voting me, please share why you are genuinely confident I'm flipping scum. I would love to hear.

[Save The Dragons]

i'm going to do this in multiple posts to be easier to read.

your reaction when I flip green is literally going to be "yeah she's noob, guess I should've expected her to act like that as town" like, you have 0 confidence I'm scum. your "reasons" I'm scum have nothing to do with the actual lines I've said.

i have a lot of confidence in my read, hence my vote on you.

- overreaction to getting targeted

* so what? who literally cares how I react to anything? look at my lines instead. I hate pressure, not my fault, can't help it. I've almost never had pressure on me cause I can towntell so well

i'm willing to believe hating pressure isn't alignment indicative for you. what's weird is that for being one of many scumreads, your first instinct is to go on the offensive and attack. one of my problems is you seem to produce a weak read

while Salsa on the other hand is clearly town for taking that push so personally from osuka so i would classify her as a city

Actually as much as it pains me to say it, I kind of agree with this.

Ah yes, 2 of yall called it town, that's why it stuck with me, like, if anything, I've had more meltdowns as scum than town... not sure why a non game related thing sold 2 of you on salsa being town...

that doesn't result in much because you're focused on Robert.

If you're going to read through and push everyone as scum, or try to find the easiest pushes, rather than go "can I see town saying this?" I feel like you're making reads from a maf pov. Maf doesn't care to find other maf. and there's 0 incentive for them to scumhunt/ bus their partners, I'll put my vote here until Robert clears stuff up, but I don't like his entrance at all

VOTE: Robert

it looks like it's all about his read on you, you make no comment on some of the other "easy pushes" that he tries to make and just focus on the fact that he's targeting you. you seem to imply that robert just picked a bunch of town to scumread and yet this doesn't seem to affect your reads at all (if i'm wrong go ahead and show me).

[Robert M Hunter]

Why would scum enter the game going "YES IM SCUM"

I thought it was modkillable to pretend to play against your wincon???

[Andante]

Why would scum enter the game going "YES IM SCUM"

I thought it was modkillable to pretend to play against your wincon???

Could be argued as wifom

[Save The Dragons]

i'd like to state for the record i don't think you're bad at this game, i have never said that nor will i ever. it's not how i play.

- appeal to emotion for getting wagoned

* ok, so what? my reaction to votes on me. I don't think I've really ATE'd much this game, want me to just sit here going "guys I'm bad! take it easy on me!!!" cause I'm not doing that, I know I'm not complete trash at this, and my main goal is trying to figure out who is scum and who is annoying town right now.

you're using AtE right now, saying woe is me. it's not about being bad or good. you actually successfully utilized AtE to get Robert to believe you are town.

example:

ah crap. I have 4 votes on me... I kinda hate this.... I'm just gonna dissapear for a bit and hope the votes get off me

now i get this can come from frustrated town. but the fact that it got someone off of you raises my hackles a little bit. on its own it doesn't mean much but in conjunction with the rest of my points it leads me to believe you rolled scum.

[Andante]

ehhh yolo I'm kinda claiming, and it's as much of a claim as people are going to get from me, I have votes on me, and it looks like no one actually thinks I'm town.


I. Am. Not. A. Vanilla. Townie.


That's all I'll give, but based on how in and out I am, I'll just leave it at this. As I said before, it doesn't matter what I claim, or if I claim. if after that giant speech I gave, Dragon, you fail to even consider for a second I'm town putting forth that much effort... I can't help yall. Dragon literally has to be scum, I feel like town would have considered an Andante town world, ESPECIALLY when your entire argument rides on the fact I'm a "noob"

[Save The Dragons]

- her confusing scum reads (seems to think i'm confscum but is voting lemons and i'm not sure what the case against lemons is)

* My confusing scumreads? I've given reasons for everything, and you're more than welcome to ask me about a vote/specific read. You'd rather avoid asking me questions, and just go "so confusing"?? Cause that feels real towny to me..

*shrug*

Please answer the following:

Andante, i'm curious how 823 makes you feel

Your case on lemons:

mmmk Lemons recently has been striking a nerve with me, I'm not convinced salsa is town, but at this point, I can't read lemons without wanting to just vote him right now... his "reads" on me make 0 sense, and everything he says is like a matter of fact... no emotion... idk I'm just genuinely getting frustrated by this game now

and Lemons, yes, you're very detached from the game, kinda just looking at/saying facts, stuff maf would do

Please quote anything I missed re: your case on lemons. Please also elaborate any posts that were specifically saying facts. Because it looks like you ragged on him for attacking you.