Open 809: Charge Me Up! [Over]

[Lukewarm]

So far I've posted at a higher posting rate than usual for me as either alignment,

And here, he is fishing for a defensive argument, despite any of the suspicion logic coming from VFP.

And who is even thinking about their posting rate this early on Day 1 anyways? Maybe scum who has been actively trying to post more in order to avoid suspicion, so they have been thinking about their posting rate since before the thread even opened up.

[Raya36]

Official Vote Count 1.02

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Elimination

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate someone.

Lukewarm

(4): DkKoba, Lukewarm, MiniVirgo, VFP

Dark Magician Girl

(3): Flea the Magician, Green Crayons, Not_Mafia

Artemiana

(2): mozamis, flow trap

VFP

(1): NDMath

Not_Mafia

(1): Yessiree

Green Crayons

(1): Dark Magician Girl

MiniVirgo

(1): Save the Dragons

Not Voting

(1): Artemiana

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-04-24 19:00:00).

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[Green Crayons]

The VFP block doesn't need explaining, just trusted.

I'm trying to convince you all that I'm town so the VFP block actually works.

Of course it does.
As I said, follow me and the game is a win.

If I'm wrong, give me 6 more shots to be right. If I'm still wrong, then we can review where I was wrong and why.

You know what, you have managed to sell me on the power of the VFP block. So who are we for voting for, boss?

And if you are going to say we should vote for me, I have good news, because that is already where my vote is !!

VOTE: lukewarm

[DkKoba]

im actively posting more to avoid suspicion yeah

[Green Crayons]

just super scummy vibes from that post

also happy with DMG, who I also think is scum for reasons stated + soft attempt at pocketing yes

[DkKoba]

so now that we have progressed a little - how do people feel about no limming so PRs can do their thing and investigatives can potentially give us some juicy info?

[Dark Magician Girl]

lukewarm: explains completely and well why he doesn't like math's response

Green crayons: let me just call luke scum for no reason

[Dark Magician Girl]

in case my post above wasn't obvious enough, Green, that's me calling you mafia

[Dark Magician Girl]

so now that we have progressed a little - how do people feel about no limming so PRs can do their thing and investigatives can potentially give us some juicy info?

could be useful. I've not really looked into the setup much cause it doesn't interest me but it is weird we have evens

[DkKoba]

i just recently played a game where i caught scum crayons fairly early and i dont get quite the same vibe here

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE: minivirgo wanna give this game a good think in the morning

[VFP]

so now that we have progressed a little - how do people feel about no limming so PRs can do their thing and investigatives can potentially give us some juicy info?

I love this idea.

On a side note. I actually liked ND's response there.
Lukewarm however, that was a bad response. Not only are they trying to push me off to another target by calling to my ego and complimenting my block but to act naive and to try and say that ND wasn't on the list when it's very clear I had them marked as red.
It's either Lukewarm not reading the game or trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
ND is the easier target for Lukewarm to push me towards given how my reads were.

Anything outside of a No lim should be Lukewarm.
But DK has spoken!

[yessiree]

Catch up tomorrow, busy this weekend

[Dark Magician Girl]

I like the case Lukewarm made on ND, esp. the bit about posting rate. I was having trouble articulating why that bothered me and Lukewarm put it in a way that made a lot of sense + is the kind of twisty read that really tries to get into scum's head rather than just say something that looks good on the surface

what did GC do that let you catch them in that other game koba

[Green Crayons]

in case my post above wasn't obvious enough, Green, that's me calling you mafia

lol

[Green Crayons]

so now that we have progressed a little - how do people feel about no limming so PRs can do their thing and investigatives can potentially give us some juicy info?

no thank you

[VFP]

Why not, Green?

[Green Crayons]

so we give up an elim for the benefit of presumably not mis-elim a pr that might provide n1 info (or, really, outing that pr under presumption we don't mis-elim after claim and having it potentially nk'd n1)

i mean, there's a lot of ifs and buts in that scenario, but two assumptions that come to mind that undermine the usefulness of the plan is that 1) the PL actually picked a bunch of different, useful prs and not just a handful and 2) town got the n1-info-revealing prs rather than scum.

[Green Crayons]

two assumptions that come to mind that undermine the usefulness of the plan

more accurately phrased:

two assumptions that i don't think have a basis to be made, but the likelihood of the plan's usefulness seem to hinge on

[flow trap]

Like, he seems really defensive

[Flea The Magician]

That’s a big town block which is concerning

This is the updated one.

VFP
Dk
Flow
Flea
Dragon
DMG
NM
Yessiree
Mini

This still scares me.

VFP
Dk
Flow
Flea
Dragon
DMG
NM

Moz
Artemiana
Mini
Yessiree
Green

Lukewarm
ND

Having half the game as town?? How can you know this unless you know because you’re scum

Some peeps are good at pre-loading blocks from RVS, NAI really.

[mozamis]

catching up sorry for being shit, been really stressed with RL stuff.

[mozamis]

OK, I remember being puzzled/had-no-fucking-clue what Flow was talking about with "pluralities" but post 35 states tht he means wagons. Pluralities = different wagons.
Light town read for Flow for kinda drawing attention to themselves by using different language from everyone else. Scum tend to want to blend in, not draw attention to themselves.

No plural wagons

yeah, understood

Yes. No one is allowed to have lives /s

no problem there, my life is an empty abyss of..arse lol

I have a townlean on Lukewarm since I think the initiative to look for the best mechanical play is a town thought.

when did they do this?

This could be good catch from Flea.

EWWWWW
VOTE: VFP

VFP, why are you leaving your vote on Flow when you think they are town?
Ok, more coffee needed!
So far light town reads on Flow and Flea, Light scum read on VFP? Wanna see VFP response.

[VFP]

Wanna see VFP response.

This is a response.

[Lukewarm]

Do people really think that I want to blindly follow VFP, when they are pushing for me to be the day 1 vote?

In post 94 I stated that I don't like when people:

• 1) claim a power role for no reason on day 1
  2) meme jester
  3) blindly believe other people saying they are clear

and further explained that in post 186. The response of 186 was for another person to meme jester, and another person to "hard claim pr".....

So I decided that maybe I needed to take the game a bit less seriously if I was gonna enjoy this game, and I claimed a power role for no reason day 1 (post 192), memed jester by voting myself (post 194), and then stated that I was going to blindly follow VFP (post 290).

And then multiple people took my took me 100% seriously.