Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[notscience]

I don’t think scum bulge posts that to be honest skitter

And I’m also surprised he hasn’t garnered more pressure with how he’s been.

[Venus Fly Trap]

salsa's posting is town
mom's is just overwhelmingly meh

i'm kinda confused why the game has stalled
~ skitter

[notscience]

Because we have the two hardest hitting scum members unable to get traction and their team of lurkers can’t bail them out/isn’t being scummy enough to divert attention

[Venus Fly Trap]

I don’t think scum bulge posts that to be honest skitter

And I’m also surprised he hasn’t garnered more pressure with how he’s been.

idk to me that post doesn't feel townie
but i'm gonna be honest here you're probably like six thousand times better reading him than me and if u think that's townie i can drop it for, like, today

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

Because we have the two hardest hitting scum members unable to get traction and their team of lurkers can’t bail them out/isn’t being scummy enough to divert attention

i mean yes basically

when i said confused i meant: this game shouldn't be stalling and it is and it feels like scum can't do anything and don't know whwat they ought to be doing and so the game is stalling

like i don't see why naturally the game is stalling if that makes sense

why is nacho stuck on three votes is beyond me >.>
i feel like if he were town here more people (ahem scum) would be voting him, no?

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

Nachomamma8 (3): Venus Fly Trap, Infinity 324, Kismet
Leafeon and Glaceon (2): Disaster Cartel, Nachomamma8
Momrangal (2): notscience, SirCakez

like imo the whole nacho wagon is town
leaf themselves are gross but i wouldn't touch that wagon rn
ig i could vote mom but idk why nacho has been stalling on those three votes the whole game

[Venus Fly Trap]

also i really wanted to play with mena and i'm kinda Sad that doesn't seem to be happening >.>

~ skitter

[notscience]

That’s basically where I’m at. I think scum is all in

(Nacho, notmaf, mena, mom, LG) and if one of those is town it’s bulge or salsa

Ninja-
I can bring nacho to four I was going to ask for the hammer though. In townreading the whole wagon, do you disagree with either of those other two?

Ninja-

I’m sorry

[notscience]

Cakez be my LLD?

[notscience]

VOTE: nacho

[Venus Fly Trap]

I can bring nacho to four I was going to ask for the hammer though. In townreading the whole wagon, do you disagree with either of those other two?

eh you can still have hammer but i want to bring the momentum back there. maybe vote now and if we actually get there i'll unvote and you can have hammer or something
i'm not sure what you're asking with the latter question, i'm sorry

yeah and for mena i'm p sure the tilt isn't ai but like i wish he was playing
i'm gonna like have to read the slot off of ydrasse and i'm not good at reading her ...

~ skitter

[notscience]

Do you think Bork or infinity have a medium/high chance of being scum

[notscience]

If mena is town the mental block could be due to the nacho townread? Maybe the red flip will help him reset?

[Venus Fly Trap]

ah.

bork is never scum here in like a billion years and i don't see myself voting him this game unless it's like literally 3way and then i'd need to think abt it. (maybe this game actually only goes to 4way, you get my point)
inifinty isn't like *quite* as solidly town but i'm still p confident on her. like i would call her a slim chance of being scum and bork a microscopic chance of being scum

i thought i had said these reads prior but maybe i didn't make them as clear as i would have liked

for mena honestly i think the mental block is for irl reasons and nothing to do with nacho or anything this game
~ skitter

[notscience]

Got it. I’ll drop it. I trust your judgement.

[Venus Fly Trap]

yeah i mean it's like *not helpful* at all i 100% agree but this batch of posting from the last day or so i don't think is ai
i think it's fair to try to read him off of what he's posting earlier in the week tho

why do you think that post from the bulge didn't come from scum-him?

~ skitter

[notscience]

Him going “fuck this shit”

And I kind of agree about scum not being able to push it because they have their hands full. Like yeah there was some weird shit in that wall but I think it’s more likely for town bulge to go “I’m town y’all are stupid lmao” and I don’t think I’ve ever seen him make that “wel scum isn’t pushing me” argument as either alignment literally ever and my gut says it’s more likely to be town. I know how he Likes to operate and develop his reads as town and that is probably not helping him any

[notscience]

Like it’s not a Bork level read but it’s enough to where I’m fine leaving him until tomorrow

[Disaster Cartel]

also i really wanted to play with mena and i'm kinda Sad that doesn't seem to be happening >.>

~ skitter

I’ll talk with you if there are things you wanna talk about

-Mena

[Venus Fly Trap]

fuck this tbh

half of you know for a fact im town anyway. and I think for the rest of you you should be able to tell from gamestate that I'm town here. because, again, half the plist knows my alignment already and they FUCKING WISH they could actually push me on anything from that wall but I've managed to coast thus far because the scumteam knows my thoughts come from a town perspective. anyway this game has caused me nothing but immense stress and anxiety the last 72+ hours so peace for now

i kinda hate this post and think it's scummy
(but i'm sorry to hear that it's causing you stress, i hope you feel better soon <3)

~ skitter

Hmmmm bulge seems to think he's being like ridiculously townie and that scum just cant push him because of that but i'm not sure that's actually the case? Like it feels like a misalignment between the source of his frustration and what i see is actually happening in the game if that makes sense

Like i'm not sure he's actually being perceived as being that townie and/or he's insinuating that scum know him too well to be able to push him here as he's being townie for him but that would imply that scum are in the people who know him but i dont think he's really approaching the game from the perspective that scum is in like {notsci, bork, etc} iirc

So i'm not really sure i agree with your conclusion notsci

But either way this probably isnt today's problem, we can deal with it tomorrow

[Venus Fly Trap]

and/or he's insinuating that scum know him too well to be able to push him here as he's being townie for him but that would imply that scum are in the people who know him but i dont think he's really approaching the game from the perspective that scum is in like {notsci, bork, etc} iirc

No i misread this part actually, scratch this bit

I dont really get why he thinks scum cant push him here tho, or why we should br able to tell off of gamestate that he's town

Like the reasoning 'half the pl knows i'm town' and 'scum should be able to tell my thoughts come from town' apply to any townie, no? Not sure why that should be +town for him in particular?

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

also i really wanted to play with mena and i'm kinda Sad that doesn't seem to be happening >.>

~ skitter

I’ll talk with you if there are things you wanna talk about

-Mena

Y is nacho town
Do u have any other reads of note
Is there anything i can do to get u back into the game

~ skitter

[Disaster Cartel]

Honestly kinda forgetting but I think it was basically that the NM policy thing I think was a lot more town than scum motivated, and I think that the way the game is playing around him is similar to how they’re playing around our slot and as far as I’ve read it’s for comparabl(my shitty) reasons rearing back to, again, the NM thing which I fundamentally disagree was ever scummy

Not really. I guess kismet is town from the sheer number of people who are swearing that they’d sacrifice their own mother before believe he’s scum

This is probably the best chance but if you wanna tell lili to not speak to me until she gets over herself in the PT, go ahead

-M

[Disaster Cartel]

Actually, kismet is town, your slot is kinda gross for your other head, cakez, salsa, leafy are all probably scum

All of notsci’s improvement in mafia has apparently been left behind in 2020 but I guess he’s town

NM can be scum still

Mom and bulge I haven’t really read any posts from

[Disaster Cartel]

So maybe like (salsa, cakez, leafy) and then probably 2/4 of (NM, bulge, mom, VFT)