Open 809: Charge Me Up! [Over]

[VFP]

Why do you need to mimic other players jokes to enjoy the game and not take it so seriously?
Other than you, whats wrong with my list?

[Lukewarm]

Furthermore, I am really glad that I choose VFP for the person when I chose someone to day I was going to blindly follow, because it appears to be the first thing to make them post a well reasoned post lol.

Look at mini trying to have a conversation with them. (a joint mini + vfp iso, starting with post 254 through post 283). No matter how hard mini tried to engage them, vfp gave nothing to work with.

Of vfp's post 323 in response to mozamis.

Everytime someone has tried to seriously engage with them, vfp has avoided proper engagement. But then when I said I was blindingly following them they made this :

so now that we have progressed a little - how do people feel about no limming so PRs can do their thing and investigatives can potentially give us some juicy info?

I love this idea.

On a side note. I actually liked ND's response there.
Lukewarm however, that was a bad response. Not only are they trying to push me off to another target by calling to my ego and complimenting my block but to act naive and to try and say that ND wasn't on the list when it's very clear I had them marked as red.
It's either Lukewarm not reading the game or trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
ND is the easier target for Lukewarm to push me towards given how my reads were.

Anything outside of a No lim should be Lukewarm.
But DK has spoken!

An actual post, with reasonings that can be analyze, huzzah

[VFP]

I was wrong.

Spoiler:

I'm not the town hero, I think Lukewarm is!

[VFP]

@Lukewarm

- Do you think Mini is town?

[NDMath]

Like, he seems really defensive, and wants to try really hard to defend himself, and appears to be adjitated that he isn't getting better reasoning from VFP so he can form a better defense. Seems fishy to me

Being scumread for no apparent reason is inherently agitating? The other reason is I was trying to get more reasoning out of VFP is so I can form a better read on them.

So far I've posted at a higher posting rate than usual for me as either alignment,

And here, he is fishing for a defensive argument, despite any of the suspicion logic coming from VFP.

And who is even thinking about their posting rate this early on Day 1 anyways? Maybe scum who has been actively trying to post more in order to avoid suspicion, so they have been thinking about their posting rate since before the thread even opened up.

Near the end of the last game I played a higher posting rate was used to argue another player was town (By Bell on Nono), so it's still fresh in my mind.

so now that we have progressed a little - how do people feel about no limming so PRs can do their thing and investigatives can potentially give us some juicy info?

Getting rid of one person isn't gonna affect investigative's ability much at all compared to the cost of no elimming.

I have a townlean on Lukewarm since I think the initiative to look for the best mechanical play is a town thought.

when did they do this?

Spoiler:

Day 1 begins. It will end in (expired on 2021-04-24 19:00:00). With 14 alive it takes 8 to eliminate.

***It is strictly forbidden to discuss N0 submissions. You may not discuss the role you chose or the player you chose to charge up***

Oh. I completely missed this rule, definitely have been thinking about how the N0 vote information could be used lol

I point ready to make as soon as Day1 started, but now I need to clear my comment with the mod before I post it

Anyways, RVS VOTE: DkKoba

Furthermore, I am really glad that I choose VFP for the person when I chose someone to day I was going to blindly follow, because it appears to be the first thing to make them post a well reasoned post lol.

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An actual post, with reasonings that can be analyze, huzzah

Is your point here that it's concerning how much it took for vfp to share reasonings or am I completely misunderstanding you?

[Flea The Magician]

so now that we have progressed a little - how do people feel about no limming so PRs can do their thing and investigatives can potentially give us some juicy info?

Koba ILY but no.

just super scummy vibes from that post

also happy with DMG, who I also think is scum for reasons stated + soft attempt at pocketing yes

Please restate for the record.

in case my post above wasn't obvious enough, Green, that's me calling you mafia

lol

That all?

This could be good catch from Flea.

EWWWWW
VOTE: VFP

VFP, why are you leaving your vote on Flow when you think they are town?

I'd hardly call it a good catch. just an Ew moment.

[Lukewarm]

Artemiana

: Null read, maybe the slightest hint of a lean towards scum. Has made absolutly zero posts with content. after 3 days, this starts to worry me. The longer that goes on, the more I start to feel like they are either scum trying to avoid slipping up, or they are a town player who is not actually going to help the town scum hunt.

DMG

: hmmm. DMG is hard to read so far. I am going back and forth on them.

DkKob

: Town lean. I am finding it hard to articulate why, but I liked reading through their iso.

Flea

: Null read, maybe very slight lean towards town

Flow Trap

: town lean. Looking at thier 3 votes, they all seem like town logic, and especially their second vote against Artemiana seems counter to how scum would choose a vote.

Green

: Town lean

Mini

- Town lean? They tried so hard to engage with VFP, and that seems more of a town thing to do . This is a weak lean

Mozamis

: Same as Artemiana, except post 322 came after I already called them out for it, and it stil has very minimal content, but more content then Artemiana has provided.

NDMath

: scum lean. Post 291 really rubs me the wrong way. They seemed too agitated and defensive over VFP's scum read on them, especially given that they have zero votes against them.

Not_Mafia

: Not enough content for me to read

Save the Dragon

: town lean. Seems to actually be scum hunting. For some reason, them asking for my mafia playing experience felt town.

VFP

: So many posts, but none of them feel serious at all, which makes it hard to read them. I am actually inclined to give them a town lean.

Yessiree

: having a hard time forming an opinion here

[Lukewarm]

Being scumread for no apparent reason is inherently agitating?

Maybe if it was not Day 1, when more reads have very little to go on anyways. And maybe if VFP's scum read on you was getting you close to being voted out.

It rubbed me the wrong way because it is Day 1, and you have zero votes on you, like VFP isn't even voting for you, but you still seem defensive.

[flow trap]

VFP, why are you leaving your vote on Flow when you think they are town?

Because leaving your vote on who ever you find most suspicious is underutilizing the power of it

[VFP]

It rubbed me the wrong way because it is Day 1, and you have zero votes on you, like VFP isn't even voting for you, but you still seem defensive.

Sounds like something town would be more concerned with than scum for me.
You said it yourself. No one was voting, there was no pressure... why does Scum!ND care if i have them as scum?
Only reason would be that I have the entire scum team in my null/scum.

[Dark Magician Girl]

why do you town read green

[VFP]

Because leaving your vote on who ever you find most suspicious is underutilizing the power of it

What Flow said, but different.

[Dark Magician Girl]

DMG: hmmm. DMG is hard to read so far. I am going back and forth on them.

reads like this usually come from town for anyone still thinking lukewarm is scum

[Dark Magician Girl]

they don't have a ton of explanation but enough that as mafia they would be inclined to give of a stance. That they go back and forth is believable because of that and inherently towny

[VFP]

DMG is officially removed from the VFP block.
So we now have an opening.

[Dark Magician Girl]

idk why people are calling green towny, most people saying so have no explanation and he just seems like obvious mafia to me

[VFP]

I might be added Green into the block at this rate.

[flow trap]

Being scumread for no apparent reason is inherently agitating?

Maybe if it was not Day 1, when more reads have very little to go on anyways. And maybe if VFP's scum read on you was getting you close to being voted out.

It rubbed me the wrong way because it is Day 1, and you have zero votes on you, like VFP isn't even voting for you, but you still seem defensive.

From what I have seen previously, wolfies are less defensive in general

I can think of only one player that I have encountered that is an exception

[Dark Magician Girl]

I was wrong.

Spoiler:

I'm not the town hero, I think Lukewarm is!

wrong on what

[Dark Magician Girl]

oh I just realized there's a spoiler

[Dark Magician Girl]

DMG is officially removed from the VFP block.
So we now have an opening.

you're going to have to explain this then

[Green Crayons]

VOTE: dmg

[Green Crayons]

just super scummy vibes from that post

also happy with DMG, who I also think is scum for reasons stated + soft attempt at pocketing yes

Please restate for the record.

dmg + dragons were doing their early d1 thing, and yes came in on dmg's side

i voted yes for his input into the dmg + dragons convo

later on when yes & I were talking through my yes vote, dmg votes me without a reason

looks like dmg beginning to pocket after yes already appeared favorable to dmg's slot

[Green Crayons]

in case my post above wasn't obvious enough, Green, that's me calling you mafia

lol

That all?

idk what this prompt is ("that all?")

but lol at dmg's clear misrep of my vote

[Green Crayons]

just super scummy vibes from that post

also happy with DMG, who I also think is scum for reasons stated + soft attempt at pocketing yes

Please restate for the record.

dmg + dragons were doing their early d1 thing, and yes came in on dmg's side

i voted yes for his input into the dmg + dragons convo

later on when yes & I were talking through my yes vote, dmg votes me without a reason

looks like dmg beginning to pocket after yes already appeared favorable to dmg's slot

oh that wasn't the restatement

here is the restatement

But their last post has changed that view a bit for me. Moving them to the "leaning town" category

disagree. it reminds me of when i'm scum and it's hard to come up with bs suspicions, so i make a unoffensive observation post