Mini 2206 - Deja Vu Reincarnations

[fferyllt]

Please use spoiler tags!

[Cabd]

And this is my egopost.

[Syryana]

mm

[fferyllt]

The alt guesses are cracking me up.

[fferyllt]

and the mystery is revealed!

[fferyllt]

Since the game thread is approaching 50 pages in ~5 days I thought I'd have a look at the stats for the previous runs of this game.

2011
Day 1 -- 11 pages -- 10 calendar days -- scum point
Day 2 -- 7 pages -- 16 calendar days -- town point
Day 3 -- 8 pages -- 14 calendar days -- scum point
Day 4 -- 2 pages -- 2 calendar days -- scum point

2013
Day 1 -- 50 pages -- 9 calendar days - town point
Day 2 -- 3 pages -- 2 calendar days - town point
Day 3 -- 2 pages -- 1 calendar day - town point

2018
Day 1 -- 40 pages -- 16 calendar days -- town point
Day 2 -- 14 pages -- 8 calendar days -- town point
Day 3 -- 32 pages -- 14 calendar days -- scum point
Day 4 -- 25 pages -- 14 calendar days -- scum point
Day 5 -- 10 pages -- 3 calendar days -- town point

[Cabd]

I submitted my guess for the scumteam a few hours ago, just locking the timestamp in.

Up to ffery if she wants to state my accuracy here or not.

[fferyllt]

accuracy was impressive!

top 5 town were all town.
2 maybes were one scum and one town
bottom 5 were 4 scum and 1 town

So, one flat out wrong guess out of 12.

[fferyllt]

welcome, unwnd!

[unwnd]

3 (One scum was null)/5 scum
4/5 town (one townread was actually scum) for just reading up to page 14

Not terribile

[unwnd]

Spoiler:

I really wish Mena didn't just resort to this play style when he feels his team is losing

[fferyllt]

It's interesting. The scum team this go-round is really unhappy about not having daytalk. Even in 2018, when the game was last run, the lack of daytalk was never brought up during postgame discussion.

I think daytalk has become so ubiquitous that the idea of functioning as a team without it is near inconceivable now.

I remember how isolated I felt as scum in my first MS newbie game. As soon as the QT would open at night I'd pour all my pent-up observations and ideas into the QT and then wait...and wait...and wait for my partner to show up and give his thoughts.

That was more agonizing than not having daytalk, actually. I wanted to use the night phase to fullest advantage, and my IC-partner just didn't seem to care about the opportunity to strategize.

[unwnd]

Quicktopic brings me back, I wonder if I remember my old password lol

I think the lack of daytalk is definitely necessary in this setup, especially with role distribution numbers. The reason daytalk is needed in 9/3 setup for example is because scum have to put in a greater effort in terms of and dwindling numbers. Here, their focus should be on each individual and trying to score a point by any means, given they'd have to trade out either way.

[fferyllt]

I think adding daytalk would require other changes to maintain the balance, and I'm not sure the whole premise of the game would survive that kind of tweaking.

It's something I want to explore in postgame.

[unwnd]

Peta is an exciting addition

[fferyllt]

he is! I'm very fortunate to have another great replacement volunteer in the wings too. I'm an extremely lucky/grateful mod!

[fferyllt]

welcome, Mistyx

[Mistyx]

hiiii

sorry for the replacement, i had mental health stuff happen this week and beeboy was just not posting so i couldn’t ask him to take over

[fferyllt]

sorry it was a rough week, mistyx

[unwnd]

Funny enough, I thought Beeboy was actually posting which

Spoiler:

Made me give your slot a very lazy townread

[Mistyx]

Funny enough, I thought Beeboy was actually posting which

Spoiler:

Made me give your slot a very lazy townread

Spoiler:

he was! just uh

not a lot

he was the glace head, not the leaf one

[fferyllt]

Welcome, Tammy!

[Tammy]

Hi!

I haven't read everything or everyone's posts but some of the arguments this game are confusing me. I don't really know the setup either. There are five scum?

The major one is the argument that since a wagon that the "townbloc" wants is stagnating and can't get any traction is evidence that the person being wagoned is scum which makes their read that much more confident that the person is scum is W.T.F? It's just a circular confirmation bias loop.

And awe peta's meta argument about nacho's bad scum game comes from a recent offsite game that was not nacho's best example of a scum game. Nacho killed me for the express purpose of being able to make bad pushes, and then life stepped in the way and he wasn't able to do what he planned and went AWOL.

Okay so people aren't making alignment talk in this thread so I won't spill what I think of either of those alignments or the alignments of the people making them. I'll put together some guesses based on not reading much lol.

[Tammy]

Oh confusing argument numero duo: You tried to push a fake scum read on me and it didn't get traction so you changed your mind is so headbangingly bad. It's been used a lot lately and I'm just mystified that experienced mafia players are making it.

[Tammy]

...they built a case on page one over an obvious rvs joke.