Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[osuka]

daddy

[Datisi]

vote count 1.22

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-04-21 10:15:00).

execution

Save The Dragons [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, VFP, T3, Andresvmb, Robert M Hunter

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

Salsabil Faria, InsidiousLemons

T3 [1]:

Save The Dragons

VFP [1]:

osuka

Andresvmb [1]:

Asteria

Asteria [1]:

Anya

not voting [2]:

Green Crayons, Andante

mod notes

~ insidiouslemons v/la most of today and on the 21st
~ the flavour is me realizing i missed the pagetop i'd been camping for ~20 minutes

flavour

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

get crushed dats

[VFP]

I mean, from my understanding, if he's last alive, we win, but we most likely have a roleblocker, so Robert and I will likely be roleblocked/killed the next 2 nights, so preferably we go for someone who would roleblock us... I thought you told me to ignore the traitor thing? like, I honestly TRed pooky, I can see him flipping green, and after recent posts, I don't even think he is a traitor

A doctor, a killer, a traitor and a role blocker? We town are probably fucked anyway I guess.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the last time I played with a mafia doctor in a mini normal the setup was:



Town Informed Miller (Informed how many guns were in the game)
Town Odd Night Vigilante
Town Even Night Cop
Town Gunsmith
Town 1 Shot-Tracker

vs

Mafia Odd Night Roleblocker
Mafia Even Night Doctor
Informed Mafia Goon (Knew there were no protective roles in the game)



We got the Gunsmith+informed in one role this time
we got a tracker of some sorts.

So it's looking very similarish.

[VFP]

I really would like to blow up Robert.

Sadly we're not getting the tracker today. Gonna have to find someone else who preferably isn't Pooky

They’re not a Tracker - that’s nonsense. I have never seen an actual Town PR Tracker blow their spot up so fast. That’s ridiculous.

And you have seen an Informed GS do so?

[osuka]

are you FUCKING KIDDING ME

“pagetop sniper” is my middle name

[Andresvmb]

i agree that rmh is fairly scummy, but can you really justify execing a tracker claim d1?

I don’t know. It doesn’t look like we’re going to anyway.

[Andresvmb]

And you have seen an Informed GS do so?

There’s definitely a difference in experience here. And the GS has admitted to being bad under pressure, which I don’t think you’ll find me disagreeing with.

[osuka]

I really would like to blow up Robert.

Sadly we're not getting the tracker today. Gonna have to find someone else who preferably isn't Pooky

They’re not a Tracker - that’s nonsense. I have never seen an actual Town PR Tracker blow their spot up so fast. That’s ridiculous.

And you have seen an Informed GS do so?

how is an informed miller + gs different from an informed gs + miller?

like there might not be a miller here but does it actually really matter who’s informed?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The last two mini normals run by Datisi were:

Spoiler: Mini 2187

town:
1x town innocent child jailkeeper enabler
1x town joat (neapolitan, gunsmith, tracker)
1x town 3-shot vigilante
1x bulletproof townie
6x vt

scum:
1x mafia multitasking jailkeeper
1x mafia informed ([player] is a town innocent child jailkeeper enabler; there are no town-aligned aliens, babysitters, bodyguards, commuters, doctors, hiders, jailkeepers or rolestoppers, backups for one of these roles, or joats with the ability from at least one of these roles)
1x mafia bulletproof enabler

and

Spoiler: Mini 2163

town:
1x town informed loyal cop (informed there is at least one mafia member with the rolestopper ability)
1x town jailkeeper
1x town commuter
1x town checker miller
6x VT

scum:
1x mafia rolestopper
1x mafia n1 informed (informed there is a town informed loyal cop)
1x mafia goon

Both ended in Mafia Victories where scum had 2 alive at the end.

This motivates me to maybe tryharder on winning this rather than just trolling since Datisi is a NOTORIOUS SCUMSIDING MOD.

[osuka]

that only furthers my theory that we’re actually playing 10 maf vs 3 town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how is an informed miller + gs different from an informed gs + miller?

well the informed miller in my game was basically like an extra IC since every1 believed his claim

Datisi tends to only put 4 TPRs in his games tho

[VFP]

tbh I think Robert messed up his claim by not claiming 1 or 2 shot... cause I don't believe we have a full tracker, which means I'm dead tonight ( but!!! mafia, do you really want to kill me? when I could get a positive gun check on a cop and tunnel our cop... just saying... please let me live

Nice fishing there.
Andante is probably still scum. I'm just throwing this put there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

btw this is not to be taken as an accusation of Moderator Malfeasance

but there's a pattern of the most "skilled" player in Datisi games being scum and crushing the game.

In 2187, scum unwnd goes all the way for the win.

In 2163, scum menalque goes all the way for the win.

I dunno if you guys are familiar with Green Crayons, but that dude has a absolutely VICIOUS scum game. Like if there's one person in this player list that would scare me from picking up a red role PM. It's him.

And he's done like absolutely nothing I would even believe is townie. So I'm like completely ok with killing him instead of STD.

Honestly I kinda want to kill them both.

I actually read GCray's iso and I never read that shit.

But it took like maybe 45 seconds to skim it.

there's nothing in there.

like its bland

like white bread

I'd bet this guy is scum, look how he manages to stay cool and just chill and say almost nothing of value

and STD townreads this dude? like get real

I'd be honestly ok killing either of them.

Legit.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ya'all should take a look at GCray's ISO

that shit has nothing in it.

like an air balloon.

I'm ready to kill him too.

Does any1 other than STD think GCray is town?

[VFP]

Why are you so intent on engaging RMH like this? If you think they’re Scum shouldn’t you be ignoring them?

This is a bad take.
If you think someone is scum you should be focusing on them more to see if you're right.

[VFP]

sorry my niceness has run out because the ridiculous amount of stupid shit that's been said in the past half hour is starting to kill my brain cells

I think Osuka needs to chill just a bit here but he's not wrong. This game is turning into a joke from town side.

[VFP]

this is the stupidest post in the thread by an order of magnitude

It's really not.
Why is this even in question?

[VFP]

You are so manipulative.

This is actually spot on.

[VFP]

Game is pretty tragic and I just want to move on from day 1.

Pooky
Robert
Lemons
Asteria
Osuka
Salsabil

T3

- need more. Something makes me want to say town but I can't go into this.

Andante

- claiming plausible PR for town here. Just finished a game with scum GS and I just really hate the mind set this slot has. Probably just going to be town who i can't rely on with anything but results for late game.

Andres

- during the shit show catch up from last night Andre started to look town but by the end of it I just thought that they were noise. Maybe reading last night just looks bad on people where I shouldn't but I think closer to scum.

Anya
Save The Dragons
Green Crayons

I'd rather have all reads in the green or red for tomorrow the way this game is. So hopefully this changes before. However, as I said I won't be sad if we can move on.

Feel free to question any changes I've had.

[T3]

STD has been towntelling with the reaction. VFP is a strong tr of mine here. Asteria had a terrible reaction at the start of the day to an obvious RVS vote and only Anya seems to notice. I tr Pooky so I think I will leave my vote as-is.

[Andante]

"STD has been towntelling. I will leave my vote on him"

what kind of line is this???


I was about to throw STD on E-1 but I'm kinda unsure, feels like a setup for a town flip....

[Andante]

but I also don't tr VFP here... ahhhhh if people still wanna get STD I'll just go with it, I will say osuka most likely town, seemed to have the exact same thoughts about andres as me, so I may just copy his vote, idk, the " STD has been towntelling so I'm keeping my vote" feels so weird, like wtf?? are we playing reverse mafia here? trying to kill the townies?

[Salsabil Faria]

Page 41

Spoiler:

You guys are nuts! 20 more pages between 24 hours!! I'll go & post 1 page at a time from now, if not there will be more wall posts from me which I don't want to do anymore.

Reading his lines, I firmly believe he is scum, there is nothing about him that I found towny, I'm not giving anyone a pass solely for their claim, nor do I expect the same in return

I'm willing to give anyone a pass doesn't mean I townread them. As the town doesn't know who is who, we can't be 100% sure. So not eliminating you/

Robert M Hunter

in Day 1 as you both claimed TPR, is a good move for town imo.

I'm not a pr no.

I looked at this post for pure 1 minute

@everyone pooky d1 town should at least be doing something, do you see him actually participating or is he hiding behind his meta to do absolutely nothing here? ask your self what his case is on me.

@andante if robert were scum he'd know about the mafia doctor so the fact he doesn't plus his PR claim is enough to put him in the town column for now. could be faking it but it seems genuine.

1. I've played games with pooky before, his entrance is always random like that, I do think he's genuinely trying, and I liked Pawns

PookyTheMagicalBear

are genuinely trying scum-hunting or town-hunting?? Please mention the posts where they're trying you think.
You liked them, that's why townread them is a terrible reason to townread anyone. You should consider a pocketing attempt in this case.

Another part of it was that I hard tred Pawns and you're now voting the replaced slot.

I agree with Andante here. All the playerson Pooky are south of null.

I think we caught another scum here.

it's not that i believe it, it's that the slot will sort itself out later in the game. if he's a pro town tracker, he's probably going to get killed later and we'll find out. or if he's scum and is still alive later, we can sort it out then. i think there's a better D1 play here.

^
This.

I think I prefer Pooky town here to Dragon.

why is this an either/or?

Why are you not voting STD?

Do you finish catch up?

Do you have thoughts/reads so far?

Are you willing to play through story-telling?

What's on your mind?

Who do you think are towns and why?

Who do you think are scums and why?

there are a lot of questions here and not many votes for STD

You're scum!

Pretty sure STD is scum at this point.

autocorrect

You scumread him after fully catching up or from the 1st 2 pages you mentioned earlier??