Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[Cabd]

Votecount 3-1

With 6 players alive, it will take 4 votes to eliminate.

Not Voting (6): WhemeStar, Catboi, skitter30, T3, GrandpaMo, JacksonVirgo

Deadline for Day Three: (expired on 2021-04-26 20:06:38)

[skitter30]

VOTE: catboi

[skitter30]

I got distracted by something >.>

[skitter30]

Like even look at the @skitter section, he's clearly diffrentiating between things that happened here and elsewhere

[GrandpaMo]

anyways bad elims for today are jackson / HoG / the afk / skitter

mainly because given jackson / hog's playstyle it's so easy to mess up and openclaim mafia
and the afk / skitter haven't really done anything and are capable of a lot more

Ok this supports that conclusion

Hog (now catboi)
Afk (now wheme)

These arent good reasons to clear these people

hog isnt catboi..? oh wait is hog, irish who is now catboi?

[GrandpaMo]

Ayee first time playing forum mafia. By the way, don't mnd my PFP, it will get changed ASAP!

But... the future refused to change.

My current reads are Fizz as town; 0-1 scum between skitter/pooky; you've been anti-town; rest unclear.

If skitter is scum, you're looking much more like a misguided townie to me, but you've still been having anti-town effects in my view. You told Fizz "you're sheep, not the shepherd" -- but I think you're not picking up on town signals that, if you're town, you're probably not going to be "the shepherd" right now, either, act as though you could be, and should take it back a notch. Some of these could (IMO: almost surely will) be scum influencing you, but there's been too many for them all to be scum.

If it's pooky or neither that's scum, I don't give you good odds of a town read from me.

@Andante

I fell so far behind, and I'm too tired to catch up right now, Hand's post at 147, I was trying to process it, but Hand's posts are just written in a way they take a lot out of me to try and comprehend what they're saying, I'll probably just end up ISOing Hand later

I can't read any of Hand's posts, they're written in this analytical way, makes them so hard to read.

I genuinely can't read Hand, the posts are way too analytical, not really about interactions?? idk, Hand is a later read

You appear to judge writing styles notably often. Jackson and Fizz for their intros (#4 in your iso), Ahri generally, and now me. I was going to let it slide initially, when you were being more lenient, but you can't declare you're "can't read any" of someone's posts as town -- unless you already think it's not worth the effort, and that amounts to you calling quite strongly anti-town on me, even if AI. Which I obviously don't like. It's not the first time someone has said something like this about me, I assure you.

Or would you want me to treat you likewise -- I find your posts hard to read, in turn.

I'll give you something which I believe could convince you that I do pay attention to people's reads and interactions:

VOTE: skitter30

i actually like this from hog honestly lol.

[skitter30]

gm can you look at the hog post i quoted on the prior page and tell me what exactly he's talking abt there?

[GrandpaMo]

but hog's playstyle is weird. literally votes a new person every few seconds. says your scum skitters and votes u then pivots votes alongside wit u agreeing wit u that andante is scum

[GrandpaMo]

WAIT DID HOG SCUMSLIP LLMFAOOFO

[GrandpaMo]

@skitter please fucking read this part.

""Spewing lies."
It was my first online mafia game. I've lurked elsewhere (probably also not understanding much), and I've played irl (years before), and I've inhaled the wiki far too much and believed in it far too much -- yeah.
I drew scum, was anxious to be "proactive", and always tell my partner all my thoughts to avoid cornering them into an impossible situation by miscoordination. Went well. I realize I gave too many "instructions" to Ahri, all that micromanagement. They weren't meant as commands, they really just were what I thought.

I did try to read the thread and make sense of it. Then you all mock that I don't know where to begin engaging if the entire thread is always "scum reading" what I'm doing.
"

[GrandpaMo]

unless im not reading in context. giv me a sec i need to really understand the iso here...

[skitter30]

yeah that's what i'm getting at

what is the 'private' thread. try to figure out what he's responding to because he's quoting things that literally didn't happen in this thread
and he's talking to/with ahri, who we know was in a private thread (namely, the scum pt)

[GrandpaMo]

The "I fucking hate this game" line is outdated btw, it was when I was still assuming this to be an authentic game, but with a meta I hadn't caught up on until half the town had covertly aligned against me. I think I love this game and I think you've all loved it too, or you would have stopped me earlier. Right? Just the facts and logic.

Since I am the only scum, you were all town, and you were

all

amazing. Even if that might be "brownie points" (hey, it's the wiki that says to have your scumbuddy's back). I'll have more to say a bit later. If you want.

VOTE: Ahri

Yeah, I realize more yet now.

The "catgirl vs. eurosnob" idea was just idiotic. It was a shit idea to suggest it, no less so as "theatre". Nothing else to say there. I didn't mean it as "emotional~ random dumb! vs. analytical", as you presented it. Or I would probably have noticed all of you using it sooner.

I shouldn't have said anything about the character of Ahri, ever, not knowing her.

If I called Ahri a "magical [!] 8-ball" on thread, that was just mafia misdirection and not my actual judgment of Ahri.
If I called her a "deep-space oracle" or "vig shot D1" backstage, it was meant as "energy", because I'd read that you should boost your scumbuddy, not as her being "random" at all. I've said here that I didn't think she was being random.

But again -- I shouldn't have said shit about someone I don't know. Who hates me now. Rightly.

"Spewing lies."
It

was

my first online mafia game. I've lurked elsewhere (probably also not understanding much), and I've played irl (years before), and I've inhaled the wiki far too much and believed in it far too much -- yeah.
I drew scum, was anxious to be "proactive", and always tell my partner all my thoughts to avoid cornering them into an impossible situation by miscoordination. Went well. I realize I gave too many "instructions" to Ahri, all that micromanagement. They weren't meant as commands, they really just were what I thought.

I did try to read the thread and make sense of it. Then you all mock that I don't know where to begin engaging if the entire thread is always "scum reading" what I'm doing.

"Being aggressive."
You were setting me up for that by being intentionally stupid in two different ways. There's also parts where I called the sudden counterstrategies or scum pair calls strikingly smart.

@skitter

"What do you think of Andante?"
On the private thread? Astonishing scumdar, not good at selling it, and play early on that I called newbish or terrible while being a newb myself. Yeah, that's arrogant, though if you've seen people give these tells, it happens. You all made a point of using intentionally terrible scum tells.

On this thread? I thought that their intentionally obfuscating posts were annoying me, also irl for saying that their style is annoying me. Sure, I get that Ahri thinks the same about me, but I never called

her

style annoying. It is precisely nothing like what Andante used. Ahri used her own style throughout the thread as I thought she would, not this "like whatever idk how it's even, i'll iso them tonight" -- that's precisely why I

liked

(what I thought was) Ahri's style.

I'm sorry, all of you.

...but I also said that Andante "was kicking off the catgirl vs. eurosnob discussion", so maybe I'm actually more idiotic and biased than I'd thought.

I don't think I think women are dumber than men. Or less analytical. Or more emotional.

And the style on the private thread is different because I'm not really "analytical". I was trying to play it like that. But yeah. Very weak analysis as shown.

Town Ahri could have D1 vig shot me.

I've heard of setups where you aren't always the role that you think you've been assigned. Or nobody knows how many mafia there are.

I wasn't lying when I said it was my first game of mafia online. There are mafia variants maybe that can be played on a rainy Sunday afternoon. 3-20 min. I've been in some of these, I think, they're always full of newbies though.

No way is Ahri an alt account, but that's neither here nor there.

I can't believe how it wasn't reasonable for me to read the entirety of Newb2057 when I heard of it, or remember Ahri's history better. I am sorry for that as well. It's what, 45 pages in total? Something around those lines.

No ofc I'm joking.

ahri is my alt shitpost account. I've been had.

im not voting anyone. i explained my reads.

im pushing more of the jv and pooky narrative today and can vote skitter if i want to. there is still like multiple days left as pooky said and i want to optimize my time lmao

I mean, I still don't get it

VOTE: Hand of Glory

im so fucking confused.

[GrandpaMo]

yeah that's what i'm getting at

what is the 'private' thread. try to figure out what he's responding to because he's quoting things that literally didn't happen in this thread
and he's talking to/with ahri, who we know was in a private thread (namely, the scum pt)

is there scum day chat?

[skitter30]

yes, and unless i'm misreading this horribly, it looks like he's responding to things ahri said in the scum pt/daychat here

[skitter30]

... did i like miss the whole convo that you're talking abt?

Hog maybe i'm missing something super obvious but idk what you're talking abt

@andante i will try to respond shortly

see what i said at the time

[GrandpaMo]

yes, and unless i'm misreading this horribly, it looks like he's responding to things ahri said in the scum pt/daychat here

exactly. so if there is scum day chat.. he probably messed up. and voted himself saying how "he doesn't get it" because no one caught his slip....

but why would he mention other prods in that read?

[GrandpaMo]

Hence why he left the game ^

[GrandpaMo]

... did i like miss the whole convo that you're talking abt?

Hog maybe i'm missing something super obvious but idk what you're talking abt

@andante i will try to respond shortly

see what i said at the time

yea i saw... they didnt respond to anything

[T3]

VOTE: catboi
LMFAO...

[catboi]

I...don't know what's going on there >_>

I think hand of glory was trolling, their entire ISO is incoherent

It's really not me, though

[skitter30]

i'm sorry catboi

i will say i'm not 100% convinced he's scum and not a troll, but it does look like he's in a pt with ahri in those posts

[catboi]

No, it's fine, it's a really weird coincidence but i understand why you have to do it

I'm not going to leave a legacy readlist, I've barely read the game. Just everyone do your homework and reread carefully tomorrow. Good luck~

[skitter30]

i'm not like crazy raeding that post that way, right?

[T3]

I don't think so. HoG interactions with Ahri seem really strange.