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[Momrangal]

idk maybe I should be reconsidering notty bc it feels like he's just pushing town the whole time but he feels so righteous about it that I think he's more likely town with his head up his ass than scum

I'm not sure how you're even coming to this conclusion. Aren't you also scum reading myself and nacho?

NM or the Bulge

And you think this despite the massive push back against him? You think this despite the fact that there are people defending him?

Right now it looks like Nacho is the easiest elimination if town. Why do you have such a dramatic reaction to my vote and why are you so keen to ignore everything that has already happened around NM?

You must have a terrible opinion on my scum game if you think Im gonna run away from a Nacho!partner pursuit

I already said the scum team is you nacho (mena/salsa) mom notmaf


All maras done is omgus all game lmao

And you wonder why I question your game awareness

Mom is a universal a undead but no traction came on her wagon
Seems pretty obvious what is going on there

Who's protecting me?

I'd love to murder Mom my worry is that if Nacho is scum that after Mom flips scum one of the Nacho drivers will be killed and it will be hard to flip him

This makes no sense. Even if nacho is scum, town doesn't need a total scum wipe to win

I need to stop at the top of 56

[Momrangal]

BULGE I SEE YOU COME VOTE NACHO

salsa also still active on site

You say you realize you're tunnelling but you haven't showed any signs of reconsidering. Why are you so adamant against even talking about NM?

[notscience]

Wow it’s almost like this is an OMGUS

[Venus Fly Trap]

BULGE I SEE YOU COME VOTE NACHO

salsa also still active on site

You say you realize you're tunnelling but you haven't showed any signs of reconsidering. Why are you so adamant against even talking about NM?

mom honestly i don't get why you're focusing on nm so much

~ skitter

[notscience]

I shut it down early but have since said he’s probably scum (as are you!)

But you can’t ask why I won’t consider him when all you’ve done is blind vote him lmao

[Kismet]

You say you realize you're tunnelling but you haven't showed any signs of reconsidering. Why are you so adamant against even talking about NM?

which reads in particular is he wrong on?

what is your current feeling about nacho?

[Momrangal]

Because everyone else is either so keen to either ignore him, ignore what's happening around him or seemingly chainsaw.


Like how all I've done is omgus?

Pedit: my feelings around nacho are complex

[notscience]

Nacho scumreads you “nacho is scum”

I say you’re scum snd all you’ve done is cast shade at me lmao

[Kismet]

This makes no sense. Even if nacho is scum, town doesn't need a total scum wipe to win

this goes both ways - if nm is scum, he doesn't necessarily need to be flipped either.

I guess my Q is why do you think he's the mostly likely person out of the whole playerlist to flip scum right now?

that just seems a weird feeling for anyone to have about not_mafia in D1 of any game

[Venus Fly Trap]

ok non-answer r.e. nacho noted

[notscience]

(I have that feeling Bork)

[Momrangal]

I've played with NM scum recently and the vibe is vaguely familiar. Despite the fact that his meta is what it is, there is alot of early bussing when pushed, defending by partners and redirection elsewhere.

I would hate to he defending another null read here but Its odd that Nacho gets the heat he does and it hasnt relented even after the game has moved on. Almost as if the team doesn't know where else to go outside of Nacho in the scenario of Nacho!town elimination.

Theres a soft dig against his push and walk back on eeveelutions but I don't see pushes outside of that. It feels like the oush is stale but it's still being done

[notscience]

Heat? I’ve been pulling teeth to get votes all game lmao

[Momrangal]

I've also never actually said that I scumread Nacho

The only person that I could have actually omgussed here is cakes

[Momrangal]

I shut it down early but have since said he’s probably scum (as are you!)

But you can’t ask why I won’t consider him when all you’ve done is blind vote him lmao

Why would you shut down something you think could be a bus?

[The Bulge]

hmm don't expect much from me tonight but I could vote nancho

[Kismet]

I think you're dropping you're read on venus hydra too early and pushing a town elimination especially if NM is scum Here.

i initially read this as you scumreading nacho but i think i just misinterpreted it at this point

[Momrangal]

Like Mara and notmaf are definitely scum yes

But I want to take out the strong scum first.

Waitwait

What? This is uncalled for. I've had more than my fair share of scumgames where I've carried my team

Pedit: that's a post to Nacho though?

[Momrangal]

It may have been a long time but Nacho has always been weak when scum play a reach out game with him and basic, instinctive reactions don't really change with time

[Kismet]

Pedit: that's a post to Nacho though?

yeah, sounded as if you were calling him out.

hence my agreement w/ noddy's 1398

i think your vote on n_m looks considerably better if that's not what's happening though

overall, yes, i get that a lot of shit is happening around nacho, but I'd like you to be a little clearer w/ what you mean there. Do you still scumread infinity and vft?

[Momrangal]

I think theres a chainsaw effect happening especially if Nacho rand town here, and it's an effect that happened under everyone else's noses that town got wrapped up in it. I think VFT was a major component in that and one of infinity/notsci

At the same time I don't know if noddy dogmatically pushes this hard if he doesn't actually beleive in his push. He sets himself up as being largely responsible for a Nacho!town elimination and last I remember he doesn't really have the gusto or balls to do that

[Venus Fly Trap]

what does that even mean >.>
who's being chainsawed

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

and why is nacho town?

[Momrangal]

Nacho himself is largely null but if I'm right about the circumstances around NM and Nachos push there, circumstantially I think hes likely town

What would you call the whole thing of Nacho gaining alot of headturns due to his early NM push,

[petapan]

Here are the relevant posts and they’re just bad or neutral:

VOTE: venus fly trap
Cursed hydra

blah

i've fallen for the not maf policy yeet too many times

looking for reasons to avoid NM

scumlords!

nothing posting

I see a bunch of pages here but it is very late so I will see y'all tomorrow

nothing posting

policying NM is my idea of a good time

-Mena

why not a good book ^.^

no

VOTE: NM

-Mena

Eh, I don't like this vote.

UNVOTE: Venus Fly Trap

VOTE: Disaster Cartel

I will sheep this in lack of something better
still reading

VOTE: disaster cartel

incredibly lazy vote on me that’s not really justified but worth bearing in mind that I’m p sure others had also been voicing dislike of me (like kismet) making this safe

I like Kismet, Salsa and Infinity. Not crazy about notsci, L+G, or Venus Fly Trap. I can have lots of scumreads in this game

I stg if we have to have another conversation about policy limming and why it’s worth it I will put my face through my desk given the context

-Mena

this seems so fake

Or we could let the game breathe and if we really can’t come up with a better option and need a deadline scramble then we decide to go there

I’m not saying we speed lim I’m saying that the only reason policy lims don’t work is bc people get attached to their pet SRs which most of the time aren’t any better than rand, and we should just play it safe and agree that we’re limming NM unless someone basically claims scum

-Mena

YIKES

Vote: Not_Mafia

Was a fun thought while it lasted. Don't think notscience is out of scum range but do like what he's posted so far.

i've fallen for the not maf policy yeet too many times

If Not_Mafia flips scum (which is looking more and more possible by the minute), then ^this^ is a potential partner.

sure dude

also i am glad to see that my partner did not play after telling me he would

~leaf

Isn't beeboy the one who just doesn't post as scum?

this is true

This has already been covered, but when pushed on these reasons they just... weren’t good and didn’t have much depth to them. But after I interrogated cakez on that, did he like re-evaluate or revise his read at all? No, he just doubled down, and that’s what he’s done on nacho too

He’s just picking the easiest targets and coming up with reasons to have his vote on them. His vote on nacho is v much scum looking to make sure a wagon goes through imo

neat, mena's town