Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[JacksonVirgo]

btw how many mls do we have?

One iirc

[GrandpaMo]

btw how many mls do we have?

if there are six of us... we mc today its 5:1 >>> 4:1 >>> then mc again 3:1 >>> 2:1.

We have 2 mcs until F3. If that's the case. I think we win. LOL. Unless somehow T3 is mafia, then they win ATP.

But from my POV I think the game is solved. My voting patten would have gamesolved the game from day 1 if JV and T3 are town.

[JacksonVirgo]

D1 -> 7v2
D2 -> 6v2
D3 -> 5v1

That's where we are.

2v1 tomorrow if we ML.
That's LyLo.

[GrandpaMo]

@jv you should know that skitter is expierenced to wifom the shit out of that lol

Because they wouldn't risk that 9/10 times.

that's so wifom tho! Think about it. Why would they instantly change into a pivot other than "hammering" just because of a NL day 1. Fucking skitter joined in the 2000's I think she is good m8

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh ahaha nice we are the same brain

[GrandpaMo]

D1 -> 7v2
D2 -> 6v2
D3 -> 5v1

That's where we are.

2v1 tomorrow if we ML.
That's LyLo.

what??

[GrandpaMo]

Oh ahaha nice we are the same brain

are you saying we are in lylo by tmr??

[JacksonVirgo]

D1 -> 7v2
D2 -> 6v2
D3 -> 5v1

That's where we are.

2v1 tomorrow if we ML.
That's LyLo.

what??

It's Lylo tomorrow if we elim town.

[JacksonVirgo]

Town Core -> T3 / JacksonVirgo
Indifference Core -> Skitter / Gramps
Scum Core -> Catboi / Whemestar

[JacksonVirgo]

Actually if you actually mindmelded with me that's you in the town-core.

[JacksonVirgo]

I am definitely dying tonight, so make the elim accordingly that you will not get any information from the kill.

[GrandpaMo]

D1 -> 7v2
D2 -> 6v2
D3 -> 5v1

That's where we are.

2v1 tomorrow if we ML.
That's LyLo.

what??

It's Lylo tomorrow if we elim town.

Wait I did my math wrong; I included scum in town ratio.


This day -> 5v1
Tomorrow -> 3v1

NL Tmr then its

Third day ->2v1.

One Miscondemn; you are right.

[JacksonVirgo]

Gramps can you answer who would be easier to distinguish between out of the following pairs.

Skitter / Wheme
Wheme / Catboi
Catboi / Skitter

[JacksonVirgo]

By that I mean, if one scum was in there. How confident are you in solving between them

[GrandpaMo]

Gramps can you answer who would be easier to distinguish between out of the following pairs.

Skitter / Wheme
Wheme / Catboi
Catboi / Skitter

As in what?

[JacksonVirgo]

Gramps can you answer who would be easier to distinguish between out of the following pairs.

Skitter / Wheme
Wheme / Catboi
Catboi / Skitter

As in what?

By that I mean, if one scum was in there. How confident are you in solving between them

[GrandpaMo]

By that I mean, if one scum was in there. How confident are you in solving between them

LOL Just asked that. I think Wheme / Catboi is def the easiest.

Once Wheme flips town >>> Catboi is outted scum.

Once Catboi flips town >>> Wheme is outted scum imo.

Skitter is just one of those on the sidelines ready that has to get very had analysis; but you don't want to overthink and that is really what I am tryin to do here.

[JacksonVirgo]

If skitter is a worry in LyLo we can always PL them today, leaving Wheme/Catboi as the final PoE in LyLo after a NL.

[GrandpaMo]

If skitter is a worry in LyLo we can always PL them today, leaving Wheme/Catboi as the final PoE in LyLo after a NL.

Oh you meant like distinguish? Hm.. That's a hard question but I am debating between Wheme / Catboi and Wheme / Skitter just because catboi has brought no info to the game so far. And its predecessor hasn't either. But definitely Wheme/Catboi can easily be deciphered after a MC and that can be debated into mylo. An Irish elim today does sound good because it will lead into Wheme / Skitter and they both have contributed. But thinking of personal bias, I still want Wheme to be out because of my initial scumread.

[T3]

I think we also have to consider that the Tracker died. And if Catboi read that much in order to kill them

OH!
What I think happened wasskitter tried to stall it so Ahri wouldn't get hammered, then go for the me/Irish lims tomorrow. Then grandpa appeared and hammered?

[skitter30]

Yeah, I realize more yet now.

The "catgirl vs. eurosnob" idea was just idiotic. It was a shit idea to suggest it, no less so as "theatre". Nothing else to say there. I didn't mean it as "emotional~ random dumb! vs. analytical", as you presented it. Or I would probably have noticed all of you using it sooner.

catgirl vs eurosnob never happened in tjis thread, i looked for it several times

He seems to be referring to an idea that was talked abt elsewhere, but commenting on its success/failure here

Like where did he 'suggest' talking about this? He seems to think he did

I shouldn't have said anything about the character of Ahri, ever, not knowing her.

If I called Ahri a "magical [!] 8-ball" on thread, that was just mafia misdirection and not my actual judgment of Ahri.
If I called her a "deep-space oracle" or "vig shot D1" backstage, it was meant as "energy", because I'd read that you should boost your scumbuddy, not as her being "random" at all. I've said

here

that I didn't think she was being random.

But again -- I shouldn't have said shit about someone I don't know. Who hates me now. Rightly.

from the above couple of paragraphs:
- he actually did call ahri magical 8 ball in thread (i'll find it and quote it'
- he seems to have done it to 'boost his scumbuddy' ahri (and she, of course, actuallyz flipped scum)
- she's apparently pissed at him ('she hates me now'), but that never happened in this thread, but he's reacting as if it did happen ~somewhere~ - he seems to he defending himself for what he did that pissed off ahri, and explaining why he did it (to help out his scumbuddy)
- the simplest explanation to me is that ahri got pissed off in the scum pt by ehat he said here, and he's defending himself here
- notice that i bolded the word 'here' above, throughout this whooe post there's a distinction between things that happened 'here' (i.e. this pt) and things that happened elsewhere (which i'm positing is the scumpt because what else could it be given no mason pt?)

"Spewing lies."
It

was

my first online mafia game. I've lurked elsewhere (probably also not understanding much), and I've played irl (years before), and I've inhaled the wiki far too much and believed in it far too much -- yeah.

I drew scum

, was anxious to be "proactive", and

always tell my partner all my thoughts to avoid cornering them into an impossible situation by miscoordination.

Went well. I realize I gave too many "

instructions" to Ahri, all that micromanagement.

They weren't meant as commands, they really just were what I thought.
literally claims scum + insinuates ahri/scum partner was pissed abt micromanagement - which, also further explains the argument in the above section


I did try to read the thread and make sense of it. Then you all mock that I don't know where to begin engaging if the entire thread is always "scum reading" what I'm doing.

"Being aggressive."
You were setting me up for that by being intentionally stupid in two different ways. There's also parts where I called the sudden counterstrategies or scum pair calls strikingly smart.

@skitter

"What do you think of Andante?"

On the private thread?

Astonishing scumdar, not good at selling it, and play early on that I called newbish or terrible while being a newb myself. Yeah, that's arrogant, though if you've seen people give these tells, it happens. You all made a point of using intentionally terrible scum tells.

On this thread?

I thought that their intentionally obfuscating posts were annoying me, also irl for saying that their style is annoying me. Sure, I get that Ahri thinks the same about me, but I never called

her

style annoying. It is precisely nothing like what Andante used. Ahri used her own style throughout the thread as I thought she would, not this "like whatever idk how it's even, i'll iso them tonight" -- that's precisely why I

liked

(what I thought was) Ahri's style.

hes clearly diffrentiating thinga that happened here and in a 'private thread', and diffrentiating betweej how he trulu views andante's play (i.em what he said abt her when he could be candid in the private thread) and what he said in this one

I'm sorry, all of you.

@jv
Bolded for emphasis, red my own commenrary and explanation

There is a clear indication that he's responding to things ahri said elsewhwre, that she got pissed off at him (which didn't happen here), and he's defending himself

He literally claims scum with ahri (and if you want to claim he's just a town troll, how did he know anri was scum?)

And he's making clear distinctions between things that happened here and things that happened elsewhere (which i'm positing must be the scum pt)

There's too much truth/fact sprinkled in (namelu that ahri is scum) for this to be a troll who made the whole thing up imo

[skitter30]

I think this is very important so if any of you still dont get what i'm saying lmk and i'll try again

[skitter30]

Also there's the fact that catboi thinks its a confession: makes me think he has reason to believe its true, namely:
- he actually is scum
- with the deceased ahri
- and that he saw said fight between ahri/hog in the scum pt

[GrandpaMo]

Also there's the fact that catboi thinks its a confession: makes me think he has reason to believe its true, namely:
- he actually is scum
- with the deceased ahri
- and that he saw said fight between ahri/hog in the scum pt

but why would catboi risk that shit?

[GrandpaMo]

Also there's the fact that catboi thinks its a confession: makes me think he has reason to believe its true, namely:
- he actually is scum
- with the deceased ahri
- and that he saw said fight between ahri/hog in the scum pt

but why would catboi risk that shit?