Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Asteria]

If we don't think scum have a traitor or 2 docs then Koba is lying. Because that would make 5 guns

[DkKoba]

DkKoba grasping at straws trying to make their claim make any goddamn sense

lol u are such obvious scum here

[DkKoba]

let me shoot lemons

[Asteria]

Koba, what is your read on vfp now?

[DkKoba]

im unsure - i thought they were confscum but i realized that was too hasty and i need to reeval that.

[DkKoba]

like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.

[Salsabil Faria]

@datisi

hypothetically if a weak vig were to target a mafia player and the vig was roleblocked, does the weak vig die?

this one is a yes

You're confusing me like hell!
Please explain to me again, why you're alive if you think

VFP

is scum? Why do you think the mafia doc saved you but not

VFP

??

[Salsabil Faria]

this game is wild

why would you think a neapo has a gun

For some weird, indescribable, illogical, alien reasons (I don't know why, brain is completely shut for rl reasons), I was thinking gun indicates killer roles only

[Salsabil Faria]

so if you don't out it, and your claim is real. you are dead tonight...

Yes, I understand that. I'll out it before I die unless a dayvig swoops in and kills me

There is no day vig in this set-up??

You don't know that??

That's why asking, do normal setup games have day vig?

[Asteria]

like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.

So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?

[DkKoba]

dayvigs are normal but no one uses them bc theyre swingy iirc

[DkKoba]

like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.

So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?

they were rolestopped

[DkKoba]

you have to understand like from my pov i am thinking of my role as a role that mafia is equipped to nullify. in a setup like this where maf confirmed have a doc you should expect a vig to exist - i am the only one - so occam's razor should tell you my claim is likely legit.

[Asteria]

so if you don't out it, and your claim is real. you are dead tonight...

Yes, I understand that. I'll out it before I die unless a dayvig swoops in and kills me

There is no day vig in this set-up??

You don't know that??

That's why asking, do normal setup games have day vig?

I see what you mean. Pretty sure they don't

[Asteria]

like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.

So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?

they were rolestopped

They? You mean you were roleblocked?

[Salsabil Faria]

2 maf doc + 1 maf rolestopper/roleblocker

Then why the town has only one killer role??

[DkKoba]

rolestopped = any incoming actions get roleblocked

[Salsabil Faria]

If we don't think scum have a traitor or 2 docs then Koba is lying. Because that would make 5 guns

How?

[Salsabil Faria]

DkKoba grasping at straws trying to make their claim make any goddamn sense

lol u are such obvious scum here

Wut??

[Asteria]

you have to understand like from my pov i am thinking of my role as a role that mafia is equipped to nullify. in a setup like this where maf confirmed have a doc you should expect a vig to exist - i am the only one - so occam's razor should tell you my claim is likely legit.

Yes. And I get that doc nullifies vig. But you're saying a roleblocker. And we're in territory where for your claim to exist there needs to be two scum without guns. Meaning 2 docs or a doc and a traitor

[DkKoba]

i dont think 2 scum docs is a crazy combination

[Asteria]

2 maf doc + 1 maf rolestopper/roleblocker

Then why the town has only one killer role??

This is valid. We would need 2 killing roles for 2 docs to make sense. And I don't think we have anymore based on flips from last night

[Asteria]

If we don't think scum have a traitor or 2 docs then Koba is lying. Because that would make 5 guns

How?

Me+Andante+Koba = 3 for town
2 mafia roles that are not traitor/doc = 2 for scum

[Salsabil Faria]

like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.

So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?

they were rolestopped

Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but

VFP

who didn't claim anything??

[InsidiousLemons]

you have to understand like from my pov i am thinking of my role as a role that mafia is equipped to nullify. in a setup like this where maf confirmed have a doc you should expect a vig to exist - i am the only one - so occam's razor should tell you my claim is likely legit.

i think there's a vig in this setup, absolutely. and the fact no other vig has shown up to CC you does lend you some credibility. i just found the circumstances of the claim incredibly scummy -- why ask what would happen if you claimed GS? why fish around for which PR claims already existed before deciding what to claim? and yes the maf doc is equipped to nullify you, but that clearly isn't what happened since you're still alive.

i think i'm convincing myself that your claim is legit, and i think my earlier theory of odd night RB/even night doc is probably correct. would still like the above questions answered though