Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Salsabil Faria]

My bottom three at the end of the day yesterday were {Asteria, VFP, Insidious}. I thought VFP was trying to chain me into an elimination there (I’ll try and look for the post).

Wait,

InsidiousLemons

?? But you scumread

Save The Dragons

,

Robert M Hunter

and wanted to eliminate

Green Crayons/DkKoba

on Day 1? I don't recall you said that you scumread

InsidiousLemons

??

What you’re saying about GC / Koba can’t be true if I was being accused by VFP of defending there right? Check my ISO a little more carefully. I thought Pooky’s push there might have been convincing, but I resisted it initially. I also like Koba so I wanted to give them a chance.

What about

InsidiousLemons

?

[Andante]

Okay that shifting claim is definitely worth executing - I find that Town rarely engage in that gamesmanship. You claimed something that would make you less likely to get visited, and you presumably give guns away? C’mon now.

ok but you know cowboys don't exist in normals right? lol

Pooky... You have... no guns.... got my hopes up for nothing :/

But what if...

I have..

The Ring of Power

Well, I can't check for rings... so I can not confirm nor deny that info, but I can confirm you don't go "pew pew"

[Salsabil Faria]

My bottom three at the end of the day yesterday were {Asteria, VFP, Insidious}. I thought VFP was trying to chain me into an elimination there (I’ll try and look for the post).

Wait,

InsidiousLemons

?? But you scumread

Save The Dragons

,

Robert M Hunter

and wanted to eliminate

Green Crayons/DkKoba

on Day 1? I don't recall you said that you scumread

InsidiousLemons

??

What you’re saying about GC / Koba can’t be true if I was being accused by VFP of defending there right? Check my ISO a little more carefully. I thought Pooky’s push there might have been convincing, but I resisted it initially. I also like Koba so I wanted to give them a chance.

What about

InsidiousLemons

?

Nevermind!

[Salsabil Faria]

Spoiler:

[Salsabil Faria]

Lemons and Salsa are strong townreads right now.

Koba is probably scum.
Reading VFP is like reading Sanskrit
osuka started veryx towny and has since dropped off. AndresI'm not sure about. Anya and Pooky probably town.

Can you give reasons for the reads, please?

[Salsabil Faria]

@VFP

....

Spoiler:

[VFP]

Thanks Salsa!

[Salsabil Faria]

Btw, I'm going to take a break..... have some study to do.

[Salsabil Faria]

Thanks Salsa!

Send me the cake We're having all lockdown here for 2 weeks till now

[T3]

Lemons and Salsa are strong townreads right now.

Koba is probably scum.
Reading VFP is like reading Sanskrit
osuka started veryx towny and has since dropped off. AndresI'm not sure about. Anya and Pooky probably town.

Can you give reasons for the reads, please?

Overall activity and vibes basically.

[Andresvmb]

@Koba how much of the game have you read?

[Andresvmb]

Something is not adding up here though. If the Scum shot at the Tracker, it’s clearly because they intended for the Weak Vig to die, or shoot Town. No? Why would you bother Roleblocking the Vig if you think they Town will get no useful information out of them either way, since the Tracker is dead.

[Andresvmb]

So Koba was most likely not Roleblocked. That would be my conclusion.

[Andresvmb]

But if they weren’t Roleblocked, then why are they both alive? That’s just seems strange.

[Andresvmb]

dkkoba how do you come to the conclusion that mafia protected you to keep you alive because you're weak targeting them and also protected themselves

that's so much tinfoil that i have plate armour sounds like meatballs to me

I mean Anya is right to be honest.

[Andresvmb]

scum could just be immune to shots and can doc save me to give me confused results.

they killed the tracker claim for a reason!!!!

Being immune to a shot still means your action goes through no? Like if you targeted a Mafia with a Bulletproof vest, wouldn’t you die anyway?

[Andresvmb]

seems very unlikely to have all 3. if weak vig is indeed killed by a roleblocker, then that would make VFP scum who got rolestopped by their buddy, assuming koba's claim is real. unless my brain is short circuiting which it may well be

And actually you would get Rolestopped by your fellow Scum if you don’t want to be targeted by any Town PRs in case you are committing the NK or you’re not Vanilla.

[Andresvmb]

Isn’t VFP just the logical execution here? I really doubt Koba pulls that claim out of their ass. It doesn’t make sense - it’s too risky in a setup with a claimed Gunsmith and a Mafia Doctor like clearly Vig makes sense as a role that exists.

[Anya]

scum is salsa/vfp/asteria I think...

salsa doesn't fit in with those two

it's like you've grouped a priestess with some witches

[Anya]

VOTE: VFP

Scum team is just Andante / Andrea / Anya

Calling it.

the legendary An- team you got it

[Anya]

Lemons and Salsa are strong townreads right now.

Koba is probably scum.
Reading VFP is like reading Sanskrit
osuka started veryx towny and has since dropped off. AndresI'm not sure about. Anya and Pooky probably town.

i'm gonna take these maltesers and claim them as my own

salsa andante lemons town

dkkoba asteria vfp have blood lusters

[Asteria]

I knew Pooky’s role was garbage hahaha it just didn’t strike me as likely. I think Pooky claimed something overpowered, and we need to really think about whether we let that live btw.

Um that was clearly a joke. Don't like that you're pushing that at all

Okay that shifting claim is definitely worth executing - I find that Town rarely engage in that gamesmanship. You claimed something that would make you less likely to get visited, and you presumably give guns away? C’mon now.

It's still a joke.. think about the amount of guns in game

I think what would have made sense for Asteria to do is visit me. I actively pushed and SR the two players that are dead. Though I think anybody that’s rational will clearly see that I probably never shoot RMH here hahaha but that’s WIFOM so you all have to figure that one out.

Remember, I'm trying to clear people here. Not get results that mean either town PR or scum.

Something is not adding up here though. If the Scum shot at the Tracker, it’s clearly because they intended for the Weak Vig to die, or shoot Town. No? Why would you bother Roleblocking the Vig if you think they Town will get no useful information out of them either way, since the Tracker is dead.

I'm not too sure honestly. Sometimes it really just comes to scum didn't do the ideal thing. If Koba really is scum though we'll find out soon I'm sure.
(But so far you're pushing 2 of the 3 town PR claims, just keeping note of that)

[Anya]

joyful birthday vfp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Andresvmb]

Um that was clearly a joke. Don't like that you're pushing that at all

You can go back and look at my live reaction at the time - I clearly took it seriously then, not just now. I now realize I need to not take anything Pooky says seriously, but we haven’t played before, so it takes some adjusting.

[Andresvmb]

I'm not too sure honestly. Sometimes it really just comes to scum didn't do the ideal thing. If Koba really is scum though we'll find out soon I'm sure.

Okay yeah sometimes the Scum don’t do the ideal thing. But this one is pretty straightforward. A Town fake claiming and maintaining that claim for the rest of the day is not an entirely common occurrence - it usually gets found out or retracted quickly. I think my conclusion is pretty straightforward - if the Tracker is dead, what the weak Vig does is irrelevant. You let them shoot because if they shoot wrong, they kill Town. If they shoot right, they die. Or at the very least, it appears the Scum acted with this thought process in mind. C’mon, nothing else explains why RMH is dead, let’s get real. It was very obviously tied to their claim.