Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.06

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-04-30 18:15:00).

execution

Asteria [3]:

Andante, DkKoba, T3

Andante [1]:

VFP

DKKoba [1]:

Anya

VFP [1]:

Andresvmb

not voting [5]:

osuka, PookyTheMagicalBear, Salsabil Faria, InsidiousLemons, Asteria

mod notes

~ i am counting 2561 as an asteria vote

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[Asteria]

Oh ok, that makes more sense. I still don't think the way Andante claimed comes from scum. I found Koba's vig claim bad but I still think it's better to let it resolve itself.

We can argue about the PR claims all day but in the end I think they're too high risk to elim in right now when they're more resolvable than other roles.

We should be hunting outside

[T3]

o_o
I think this is a much safer vote. VOTE: Andre

[VFP]

their reasoning about you somehow being wolf because of this bizarre scenario where there's 2 mafia docs who protected both you and them is baloney

VOTE: DkKoba

The only thing that I thought was trying to play the LAMIST with saying who was the tracker.

[Asteria]

Yeah, I'm back to feeling very not good about andres

VOTE: andres

[VFP]

Oh ok, that makes more sense. I still don't think the way Andante claimed comes from scum. I found Koba's vig claim bad but I still think it's better to let it resolve itself.

We can argue about the PR claims all day but in the end I think they're too high risk to elim in right now when they're more resolvable than other roles.

We should be hunting outside

Probably right. They most likely just pissed me off enough trying to lim me before I could even post that I let bias take hold. It just made me think that they noticed I was V/LA site wide and wanted to try it. If that is the case, shitty scum play right there.
That said, they are not out of light yet with that odd opinion swap just for me calling them scum.
It was like a panic and a back off until people started to ignore it to then conveniently come back into the game.
It was fake AtE regardless of the alignment too sadly.

[VFP]

Yeah, I'm back to feeling very not good about andres

VOTE: andres

VOTE: Andreas

I can go for this.

[Andresvmb]

Actually mechanically, we have a Scum between Koba and Asteria.

[Andresvmb]

Okay no maybe not. If Koba was RB’ed, then theoretically I guess not. I don’t see why the Scum would have done that, unless they don’t believe the Modifier to begin with I guess, but that’s the only alternative.

[Andresvmb]

Koba claims to have shot at VFP. They’re both alive. So some stopping ability occurred. But Asteria was able to check VFP, and has ruled them as Vanilla.

[Andresvmb]

So VFP was

not

Rolestopped, unless one of them is lying (and almost certainly Scum).

[Andresvmb]

Which almost certainly means that one of {Asteria, Koba} is Scum.

If there’s a Town RB, you probably never block Koba there. I would think. I can’t think of a good reason you would, unless you thought they were Scum and lying about their role.

[Andresvmb]

So we’re down to the only solution, if everyone is Town, is that we have a Scum RB. I guess that’s some information.

[Andresvmb]

o_o
I think this is a much safer vote. VOTE: Andre

This is safer if you want to execute Town, sure.

[Anya]

who do you think is wolf for play and outside of all this role shenaniganary though they're probably loving all these asteroids flying all over the place when the real threat is the death star

[Andresvmb]

I am trying to figure out if Asteria and VFP as Scum tie themselves together here. It would be bold.

I’m going to flip Town. Koba might resolve themselves but if the Scum have an RB, maybe it doesn’t at all. And if that’s the case, they’re going to see pressure tomorrow. And if that goes through, that’s what, ELo?

[Andresvmb]

who do you think is wolf for play and outside of all this role shenaniganary though they're probably loving all these asteroids flying all over the place when the real threat is the death star

I have already shared this prior to these claims.

[Andresvmb]

Like you have my views unaffected by the claims. By play, I would execute VFP. I’m finding it fascinating that the check was there. It’s even more interesting that Koba decided to claim to have shot there.

[Andresvmb]

My instinct is that this isn’t all just coincidence. That just seems absurd.

[Andresvmb]

Like the Scum either really want VFP dead, or the Scum really want to protect VFP.

[Andresvmb]

I can’t find a really strong justification for the first one, and since it doesn’t quite square with a VT Claim and check, I’m leaning towards the second.

[Anya]

who's the wolf that really wants vfp dead in that scenario? dkkoba's check honestly means nothing bc neither them or vfp died, it just means they were roleblocked or are lying

[Andresvmb]

who's the wolf that really wants vfp dead in that scenario? dkkoba's check honestly means nothing bc neither them or vfp died, it just means they were roleblocked or are lying

Koba would have to be lying and be Scum.

[InsidiousLemons]

that whole reaction check felt pretty fake to me. would not be surprised in the slightest if VFP is scum and Asteria's claim is baloney. mafdoc!VFP, anyone?

[InsidiousLemons]

so vfp is town unless we have a DkKoba asteria vfp house party exactly

like the more i think about it the less of a stretch this seems lol. is the wifom turning my brain to mush or is this just a holy trifecta of scum