Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

osuka · Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:08 pm

daddy?

T3 · Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:24 pm

guys it's all 100% andantes fault she broke the very fabric of mafia

T3 · Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:25 pm

Time to try so we don't throw another townie off a cliff.

osuka · Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:49 pm

you're throwing the fucking game off a cliff if youre town

Andresvmb · Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:52 pm

In post 2812, Andante wrote:So the game is over so I can talk about it? I was super towny, gave T3 a super towny slot to sub into,
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12717548

Just skimming their ISO of that game... compared to lines from this game... Like, I literally can not see T3 as town

HAHAHA

How did the Scum slip in the most obvious way I have ever seen, self-vote, disappear D1, and not get eliminated?! That is the saddest thing I have ever read.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:53 pm

In that game indeed T3 had good contributions and some solid contributions, even if they missed the blatantly obvious in that game.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:54 pm

In post 2830, Andresvmb wrote:In that game indeed T3 had good contributions and some solid contributions, even if they missed the blatantly obvious in that game.

Good contributions, solid thinking*

Andresvmb · Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:54 pm

And they indeed suspected one of the actual Scum correctly I believe. By play.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:57 pm

That game is honestly a complete shit show. It’s actually quite entertaining.

Andante · Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:58 pm

In post 2827, T3 wrote:Time to try so we don't throw another townie off a cliff.

LMAOO hey, if you can bring forth some valid reads (reads include reasonings) I'm down to listen to them, it's just kinda funny the situation it took to get to this point where you're like "ok, now I'll try"

Andante · Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:59 pm

In post 2833, Andresvmb wrote:That game is honestly a complete shit show. It’s actually quite entertaining.

lmao it's funny looking back, pissed me off way too much, I subbed out cause of that, and I've literally never subbed out before :/ I randomly tunneled a scum D1, they OMGUS'd me, the 2nd one slipped.. scum chat that game was beautiful, I love HOG so much

Andresvmb · Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:00 pm

Asteria is employing a classic Scum play I have seen before. I can even point to the exact game. They are saying trust me, execute Andrés, and if Town, you can try me tomorrow. But things will be drastically different tomorrow. And they know it.

I’m happy executing {T3, Asteria}. They have all either hard TR each other, linked themselves mechanically, or tried to dissuade others from pushing in between them. I can’t understand it.

@Koba you better not be pocketing me here. I should be suspicious of you calling me Town so surely and under pressure when you’ve always been suspicious of me in games.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:02 pm

In post 2835, Andante wrote:
In post 2833, Andresvmb wrote:That game is honestly a complete shit show. It’s actually quite entertaining.
lmao it's funny looking back, pissed me off way too much, I subbed out cause of that, and I've literally never subbed out before :/ I randomly tunneled a scum D1, they OMGUS'd me, the 2nd one slipped.. scum chat that game was beautiful, I love HOG so much

I might go find it, it’s so bad. It has to be the worst collective Scum play ever. Like a long post revealing their Partner, self-voting, and the day ending in a No execution?! How?! I have never seen such play before. Unbelievable. I can be self-critical at times, but I have never done

that

.

Andante · Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:03 pm

In post 2836, Andresvmb wrote:Asteria is employing a classic Scum play I have seen before. I can even point to the exact game. They are saying trust me, execute Andrés, and if Town, you can try me tomorrow. But things will be drastically different tomorrow. And they know it.

I’m happy executing {T3, Asteria}. They have all either hard TR each other, linked themselves mechanically, or tried to dissuade others from pushing in between them. I can’t understand it.

@Koba you better not be pocketing me here. I should be suspicious of you calling me Town so surely and under pressure when you’ve always been suspicious of me in games.

Asteria... like, I'm almost certain Asteria is flipping scum, but in the off chance they're town... If Asteria is town, it's a role mafia will kill, and if Asteria is town, vfp is town, meaning we need a read in Pooky/T3/Anya and those 3 are about on the same page for relevant content this game... and they're going to be a pain to read, unless Pooky does something... Pooky would be the easiest of those to read

Andante · Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:05 pm

In post 2837, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2835, Andante wrote:
In post 2833, Andresvmb wrote:That game is honestly a complete shit show. It’s actually quite entertaining.
lmao it's funny looking back, pissed me off way too much, I subbed out cause of that, and I've literally never subbed out before :/ I randomly tunneled a scum D1, they OMGUS'd me, the 2nd one slipped.. scum chat that game was beautiful, I love HOG so much
I might go find it, it’s so bad. It has to be the worst collective Scum play ever. Like a long post revealing their Partner, self-voting, and the day ending in a No execution?! How?! I have never seen such play before. Unbelievable. I can be self-critical at times, but I have never done
that
.

lol HOG posted something that made 0 sense in the context, I don't think it revealed the partner, but it's like, it was a very obscure post that had everyone going like "whhhaaat??" lmao it was a funny game, but hey, T3 played that completely differently from this...

Andresvmb · Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:06 pm

In post 2839, Andante wrote:lol HOG posted something that made 0 sense in the context, I don't think it revealed the partner, but it's like, it was a very obscure post that had everyone going like "whhhaaat??" lmao it was a funny game, but hey, T3 played that completely differently from this...

No they did! They were complaining about their Partner in the post and then their Partner flipped Scum, which is what actually ended up dooming the slot. It’s hilarious.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:08 pm

In post 2779, Asteria wrote:
In post 2724, Andante wrote:
In post 2721, Asteria wrote:Asking for a lot but can you guys trust me for a bit and help me out with eliming andres? Honestly I think I could do osuka too.

I don't want to elim T3 or pooky from my pool.

Salsa and anya I'm not particularly interested in eliming but I could compromise there.

Those are my options

dude, this is the definition of self preservation. 0 chance osuka kills robert there. wanna chop Andres and if he's town you go tomorrow?
Honestly sure, we can do andres today and if I'm wrong me tomorrow. Scum will kill me N3 anyway so at least then we get andres who I think has a good chance of flipping scum, and then the VFP clear will be believed.

(Also not self-preservation, frustration)

Like... out of everyone in the game that’s actually putting forth content, they have cleared Pooky and T3? I’m calling nonsense.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:10 pm

In post 1541, T3 wrote:I DID state my reason for voting STD.
My current solve would be Asteria STD and Robert

In post 1589, T3 wrote:VOTE: Asteria

In post 1619, T3 wrote:We could flip to Asteria.

In post 1631, T3 wrote:Compomise: vote Asteria

In post 2561, T3 wrote:
In post 2557, VFP wrote:Asteria is lying.
.wat.
VOTE: Asteria[/]
Strong tr on Anya now.

In post 2686, T3 wrote:Asteria is hard town..

How does anyone even square this?

Andresvmb · Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:11 pm

In post 2801, T3 wrote:
In post 2793, Andante wrote:T3, we'd love some explanations with your reads....
Salsa is a gutread. Asteria had a good reaction to being voted.

And this is the explanation?

There’s like no way this progression is legitimate yeah?

Andante · Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:15 pm

I'm not sure if I'm voting or not, but I'll give T3 some time, we're almost 3000 posts in, I'd love to see something from the slot, but basically consider my vote on T3, but I want reads from him before I lim him

UNVOTE:

Andresvmb · Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:16 pm

Why is Asteria so uninterested in flipping T3? They had Robert and SMH as Scum, voted STD, and had them as a compromise vote. And yet, they have cleared them after they called them hard Town? How is that even remotely acceptable?

Andante · Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:17 pm

In post 2845, Andresvmb wrote:Why is Asteria so uninterested in flipping T3? They had Robert and SMH as Scum, voted STD, and had them as a compromise vote. And yet, they have cleared them after they called them hard Town? How is that even remotely acceptable?

cause T3 is likely a partner.... Asteria isn't the powerful scum thus "get me first"

Andresvmb · Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:24 pm

In post 2846, Andante wrote:
In post 2845, Andresvmb wrote:Why is Asteria so uninterested in flipping T3? They had Robert and SMH as Scum, voted STD, and had them as a compromise vote. And yet, they have cleared them after they called them hard Town? How is that even remotely acceptable?
cause T3 is likely a partner.... Asteria isn't the powerful scum thus "get me first"

Yeah but you know I tend to think games are hard and the answers are never straightforward. I’m beginning to think there’s some setting up going on here. Though to be honest T3’s play looks pretty horrible from an ISO perspective but it could be completely uninterested Town.

Andante · Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:27 pm

In post 2847, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2846, Andante wrote:
In post 2845, Andresvmb wrote:Why is Asteria so uninterested in flipping T3? They had Robert and SMH as Scum, voted STD, and had them as a compromise vote. And yet, they have cleared them after they called them hard Town? How is that even remotely acceptable?
cause T3 is likely a partner.... Asteria isn't the powerful scum thus "get me first"
Yeah but you know I tend to think games are hard and the answers are never straightforward. I’m beginning to think there’s some setting up going on here. Though to be honest T3’s play looks pretty horrible from an ISO perspective but it could be completely uninterested Town.

I mean, the only setting up I see is osuka setting me up to not die, but Haschel said twice he'd say something after work... never did. T3... sounds like he's outing fake reads/ jumping on any bw.. I'm not so sure that slot is bored town

Andresvmb · Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:27 pm

It’s just the read progression on Asteria is clearly off. I don’t think Town goes from being involved in a mis-execution with someone (both T3 and Asteria ultimately voted for STD), T3 mistrusted Asteria, to calling them

hard

Town purely based on a claim that is hard to independently verify and was done under pressure from a gambit.