Mini 2206 - Deja Vu Flashbacks

[Menalque]

I’m fairly strongly leaning mom but I’m happy to talk go with what you want as you’ll be the ones endgaming

[lilith2013]

are we trying to bus tomorrow?

[Menalque]

+NM being left alive is always just WIFOM

[lilith2013]

I also think mom, but if we want to bus then she's the slot we should bus imo

[Menalque]

I think we need to bus mom tomorrow if we do peta tonight

If we do mom tonight then I think you at least need to bus, I think it’s less clear if our slot should

[lilith2013]

ehh peta is also probably bussable

[Ydrasse]

i’m really burned out right now but you’re all doing great

[lilith2013]

I'm ok with killing mom tonight and then sacrificing peta tomorrow if needed. gah townbloc is so scary

[Menalque]

I think there’s a case for doing mom tonight and then trying to get a second townie tomorrow and removing NM

Then you bussing peta followed by us, while using the 2 NKs on noddy and bork

Which would leave you in 4 with 3/4 of (bulge, infinity, salsa, cakez)

[Menalque]

I think the townbloc is not so bad given infinity has faded away a bit and one of the two was talking about becoming concerned with her

[Menalque]

I think undermining the TRs on infinity is probably a v important strategic aim for us

[lilith2013]

yeah I think we can see how the day goes, more that if it looks like peta is going down that we have to be on that wagon I think. infinity was one of the first people on nacho with us so hopefully we can leverage that

[lilith2013]

bulge isn't very townread, bork townreads salsa but notsci doesn't, notsci townreads cakes but bork doesn't really, and their townread on infinity is weakening. I think this is doable

[petapan]

i think bork has me made off the hammer (which, in a funny way, can be anti-assocative for n_m in the fact that i didn't wait for him to take it) + notscience will likely recognize my behavior as reminiscent of the newbie game we were in together

i had some sense i might be able to play for day 2 but i'm really not sure i can play off how i ended that things and it's possible me trying to play on just causes more damage

i think the number of associatives with l+g are potentially damaging enough given how scumread they were but people wanted to flip nacho instead

[petapan]

bulge isn't very townread, bork townreads salsa but notsci doesn't, notsci townreads cakes but bork doesn't really, and their townread on infinity is weakening. I think this is doable

like i said. you need 1 more lim on a townie. in f4 anything is possible

[petapan]

the big brain argument would be to get me and momrangal flipped in whatever way and argue that n_m's vote on mom spooked me

[petapan]

it's tough to lay out a concrete plan because you don't necessarily know how the ground will shift in terms of reads

but somone will hopefully be wrong and you can capitalize on that

[Menalque]

I rly don’t think ur hammer was as bad as u think it was peta, and I think if u try to play it off as frustration in a stagnating gamestate where you were never getting the lim you wanted anyway... well it’s not making you more town, but I think it’s not making you more scum either really

[Menalque]

Also, moment of respect for nacho whose reads were fucking fire this game

[Menalque]

Notsci also basically had the solve on page 6 iirc

[Menalque]

Subject: Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV (Night 1)

good
Kismet
Salsabil Faria
Infinity 324

good?
notscience

bad
SirCakez
Leafeon and Glaceon (beeboy, Mistyx hydra)
Not_Mafia
Brave Heart Lion
Disaster Cartel (Menalque, Ydrasse hydra)
Venus Fly Trap (skitter30, lilith2013 hydra)
The Bulge

Like this was fucking terrifying lol

[petapan]

i do think in terms of coordination/planning it needs to be worked out in terms of, like, vft pushing a lim and someone else only hopping on to set up the hammer

[petapan]

I rly don’t think ur hammer was as bad as u think it was peta, and I think if u try to play it off as frustration in a stagnating gamestate where you were never getting the lim you wanted anyway... well it’s not making you more town, but I think it’s not making you more scum either really

i mean notscience has seen me pull a similar sort of move as scum before: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12210104

there's always wifom arguments but i'm just saying i think very few people will buy it

bork no
notscience no
cakez lmao no he wants my nuts
salsabil doesn't seem like the type of player to think that way
infinity idk, she did townread my slot but that might get torched
the bulge who cares he's not exerting any influence

[petapan]

there's also my PT with notscience from that game (which bork modded): https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 1&start=50

for full context, i replaced into a slot that was guiltied by the tracker and opted to counter claim him. i knew me flipping was 100% inevitable and coordinated with notscience to set him up in terms of distancing.

[petapan]

obv no daytalk here but decent chance people are likely to read a lot of what i said as WIFOM