electoral college mafia (now its done watch it go)

[Vaxkiller]

I just thought of something, what if outworld and moz forgot to nk some one and that's the reason there was no nk!

[mastina]

I'll

Hard Claim: Lends' Neighbourino.

Yup that's good enough to conftown Flea for me.

Scum-scum neighborhoods aren't a thing in Normals. They are something that are technically not against the rules, but no Normal reviewer is going to actually pass that as a setup pretty much.

This is a bit of an oversimplification, but game's on autowin imo.

Flea conftown by role; Enchant conftown; Umlaut conftown by role; me conftown by role; T3 fairly town by role.

So that's 2 scum in {Outworlder, Vaxkiller, mozamis}.

With 8 alive, that's an autowin.

[Vaxkiller]

Im conf town to me, So OUtworld/Moz

[Umlaut]

Scum-scum neighborhoods aren't a thing in Normals. They are something that are technically not against the rules, but no Normal reviewer is going to actually pass that as a setup pretty much.

Was this setup actually reviewed by a Normal reviewer though? I was assuming that "this setup is otherwise normal" just means "this setup passes the letter of the law as to what

normal

entails," not "this setup is something you might actually ever see in the normal queue"

I will admit I've never seen a game with an all-scum nhood, though I was in a mini normal with a nhood containing all three scum plus one town.

[mastina]

Was this setup actually reviewed by a Normal reviewer though?

Yes--by Isis. And schadd_ is, himself, a fairly prominent Normal reviewer.

I realize that schadd_ likes neighborhoods and that Isis is one of the proponents for less townsided setups overall. But I don't believe either makes a pure scum neighborhood, even if it is something technically allowed by the rules. And I can say that most Normal reviewers would pretty strongly resist the idea of a pure scum neighborhood. They're something that, while allowed, when not given an obvious mechanical justification (scum lack daytalk but the neighborhood has daytalk, scum have a traitor and the neighborhood is scum-traitor, multiball with two different scum), basically fall outside of the realm of "reasonable expectation" for a Normal.

Something that is technically allowed as to prevent a neighborhood with one scum flipping in it conftowning the surviving member, but which is not a Fun mechanic, not a mechanic that is reasonably expected, not a mechanic that has a point to it (it does nothing to the setup, adding nothing to it, not increasing the scum's power, etc.), and between these factors, it's not something you're likely to see.

Or if you WERE to see it...not from schadd_ when reviewed by Isis.

Also even if I were wrong about my read on the personality of the designer/reviewer and they

would

make it.
Even if I were wrong about my read on the setup in that in spite of it not fitting, the mods

could

do it.

Flea's pretty damn town by play anyway.

Flea was my strongest, non-mechanical, townread even without this knowledge.
So the knowledge only augments the already existing read. (Kinda similar to T3 in that regard. T3's not just town from the roleclaim, T3 was town from play. And similar to you, too. Your slot was already one of my strongest townreads; being literally cop cleared only increases the townread.)

[mastina]

Also on a side note:
We had a no-kill last night.
We don't really have any roles that I believe could have caused it last night as last night was an even night, not an odd night. I suppose it's possible it's a PR, but if any of {Vaxkiller, Outworlder, mozamis} claimed to be said PR I flat-out wouldn't believe them on that claim. (Obviously if there IS in fact a killstopper outside of those three, they should naturally NOT claim under any circumstances here.)

Meaning that the most likely explanation for the no-kill is either:
One of the three above wanted to fakeclaim a killstopper role, OR,
The scum just didn't submit a nightkill last night.

Flea did not fakeclaim a killstopper role, eliminating faer from the former, and when it comes to the latter, I don't believe that Flea misses a night action like that as scum, whereas I can buy discouraged/demotivated/barely-in-the-game Vaxkiller/Outworlder/mozamis missing the deadline for the kill or thinking they have one but forgetting to bold it and the mod not having any final submission defaulting to none.

[T3]

Pretty much.

[OutWorldER]

honestly I got nothin'. As long as this PoE is sound which from what I'm hearing it is I don't really feel like working up the effort to fight PoE elim.

[Enchant]

There's little credo, Which proven for me.

If you feel you are winning, then you are losing. Right now, it looks like piece of cake.

[Enchant]

What i want say.

It would be, both mafia hiding around of these three. But what if no? I feel pretty paranoid about posibility, than T3 is mafia faking Cop, and just made some "checks". Or even worse, he could put teammate as green check, either for confirmation or for some wine like "No scum ever do that". Of course if Outworld flip mafia, then it's not possible for Umlaut being mafia, because only one mafia remain then. I am not sure about Flea as well, because there's, like, nothing which would point on neighborhood, like when i asked what is wrong, i got "stop fishing", like yes, it's important for hiding that you are neighbor of someone who being lynched? What for.

If i drop dead, don't speedrun game tomorrow, no matter what flip. Especially if this is town flip.

[Umlaut]

Meh

VOTE: OutWorldER

I probably shouldn't have joined a Mafia game if I didn't care enough to think for myself about it but it seems like this is nearly autowin anyway, sorry for being a potato

[Enchant]

Fine. I am ready.

VOTE: Outworld

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

vote count 7.1

GROUP 1

OutWorldER (4):

mastina, Flea the Magician, Vaxkiller, Enchant

not voting (0):

GROUP 2

OutWorldER (2):

T3, Umlaut

not voting (2):

OutWorldER, mozamis

with 8 alive, it takes 5 to administer to someone an inoculation against being alive. day 7 ends april 27th at 05:50 central US time, in (expired on 2021-04-27 05:50:00)

mod notes

• ooba
  
• prodding mozamis, flea the magician, vaxkiller

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[Flea The Magician]

I got prodded o.o wow

Uhm... fruit toast is awesome? We actually need a unaminous vote to yeet o.o Mozamies, come give your input <3

[T3]

I think mozamis site replaced, look at the replacements queue

[schadd_]

i shall seek replacement for mozamis

[schadd_]

not_mafia replaces mozamis

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[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: OutWorldER

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

d7 final vote count

GROUP 1

OutWorldER (4):

mastina, Flea the Magician, Vaxkiller, Enchant

not voting (0):

GROUP 2

OutWorldER (3):

T3, Umlaut, Not_Mafia

not voting (1):

OutWorldER

with 8 alive, it took 5 to administer to someone an inoculation against being alive.

mod notes

• ooba

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[schadd_]

OutWorldER couldn't find the poison corresponding to the antidote that he had just taken, and it turns out that the antidote is also toxic if it wasn't able to be a neutralizing agent! he was a

vanilla townie

!

night 7 starts now and ends in (expired on 2021-04-27 06:15:00)

[schadd_]

Umlaut has been killed in the night! he was a

vanilla townie

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[schadd_]

Spoiler:

vote count 8.0

GROUP 0

not voting (6):

Vaxkiller, mastina, Flea the Magician, T3, Enchant, Not_Mafia

with 6 alive, it takes 4 to tie someone in a knot. day 8 ends may 5th at 03:25 central US time, in (expired on 2021-05-03 03:25:00)

mod notes

• thread unlocked
  
• since there are 4 town and 2 mafia alive, you all get to be in a group together

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[Vaxkiller]

Ok SOMEONE is LYING

[Vaxkiller]

Im not mafia, and everyone else is linked in someway, so not_mafia is prolly not mafia either.