Open 808: The Council Has Spoken

[T3]

God damn it, who even is on now? It's like 3 am already for me lol

Not all of us live in Siberia

[Lukewarm]

Well it looks like we are going without an elim today, unless the mod holds everything and replaces out Nono

[Lukewarm]

Ugh. Well, I tried my best

Council should probably track either me or yes, and then not use the doctor ability

[Raya36]

But then Raya did not bite on the BM=scum line, and suggested instead that we vote Yes today followed by BM tomorrow. And Yessiree changed his tune, and started suggesting a no vote

Can't believe I missed this one earlier. It's not our fault the guy who's supposed to engage with us today kinda just dipped you know? It would've definitely cleared some stuff up between BM Raya and me, but it never happened. And speaking of Raya, what are you even scumreading me for? This is slothful

My problem is everyone is playing very town-like. I'm not even scumreading anyone in my pool. I just think by interactions you make the most sense as scum

[Lukewarm]

But then Raya did not bite on the BM=scum line, and suggested instead that we vote Yes today followed by BM tomorrow. And Yessiree changed his tune, and started suggesting a no vote

Can't believe I missed this one earlier. It's not our fault the guy who's supposed to engage with us today kinda just dipped you know? It would've definitely cleared some stuff up between BM Raya and me, but it never happened. And speaking of Raya, what are you even scumreading me for? This is slothful

My problem is everyone is playing very town-like. I'm not even scumreading anyone in my pool. I just think by interactions you make the most sense as scum

hmmmmm. Very much do not like this. Leaving your vote on the wagon that was less likely to pass, and then showing up literally minutes after the timer finished. Voting me off would have been the much smarter play here then not eliminating anyone.

[Lukewarm]

I am just going to hold out hope that the mod will replace out nono, and give us another chance at getting a vote passed. I mean our fully cleared town did not once cast a vote for the elimination

[Raya36]

But then Raya did not bite on the BM=scum line, and suggested instead that we vote Yes today followed by BM tomorrow. And Yessiree changed his tune, and started suggesting a no vote

Can't believe I missed this one earlier. It's not our fault the guy who's supposed to engage with us today kinda just dipped you know? It would've definitely cleared some stuff up between BM Raya and me, but it never happened. And speaking of Raya, what are you even scumreading me for? This is slothful

My problem is everyone is playing very town-like. I'm not even scumreading anyone in my pool. I just think by interactions you make the most sense as scum

hmmmmm. Very much do not like this. Leaving your vote on the wagon that was less likely to pass, and then showing up literally minutes after the timer finished. Voting me off would have been the much smarter play here then not eliminating anyone.

I just got home from work. I said I probably wouldn't make it in time. Don't throw shade at me for that.

[T3]

urgh the deadline just passed

[Artemiana]

Ugh

VOTE: yessus

Let's hope this counts. I still don't understand why were going after yessus over BM.

talking about scum nking n1 is wifom and shouldn't have been entertained unless necessary

[yessiree]

What now

[yessiree]

Woke up, still not dead

[yessiree]

God damn it, who even is on now? It's like 3 am already for me lol

Not all of us live in Siberia

You should retake grade 10 geography

[yessiree]

But then Raya did not bite on the BM=scum line, and suggested instead that we vote Yes today followed by BM tomorrow. And Yessiree changed his tune, and started suggesting a no vote

Can't believe I missed this one earlier. It's not our fault the guy who's supposed to engage with us today kinda just dipped you know? It would've definitely cleared some stuff up between BM Raya and me, but it never happened. And speaking of Raya, what are you even scumreading me for? This is slothful

My problem is everyone is playing very town-like. I'm not even scumreading anyone in my pool. I just think by interactions you make the most sense as scum

Don't think that's an accurate assessment of the game state at all. But it looks like you've already made up your mind, and aren't willing to change that so whatever

[yessiree]

Well it looks like we are going without an elim today, unless the mod holds everything and replaces out Nono

Please no. This day has dragged on long enough. It's time to bring closure

[yessiree]

Ugh. Well, I tried my best

Council should probably track either me or yes, and then not use the doctor ability

Council should track and doc whoever the council decides tonight.

[yessiree]

And hello? Why are we elimming? Why are we elimming when there are even number of players? Especially when council isn't even hammered yet?

I am against a no-elim today. Even through we are on an even number, we can go back to an odd number if the mafia no-kills again or if the doctor ability is successful.

I would prefer a miselim on me over a no elim tbh.

You want the doctor to be used here but next post you tell them not to use it. So which is it? You're standing on 2 boats and trying to set sail here.

[yessiree]

@Yessiree, please vote for me, so that I can self hammer if I need to!

I'm not gonna vote you so you cannot do specifically that. Also don't self hammer as any alignment.

[yessiree]

@Yes, I think the PoE really brings it down to you or me, so I really think one of us needs to die today, and then let the council info clear/incriminate the other.

Poe is a double edged sword. Especially when you start off on the wrong foot.

[Lukewarm]

@Yes, I think the PoE really brings it down to you or me, so I really think one of us needs to die today, and then let the council info clear/incriminate the other.

Poe is a double edged sword. Especially when you start off on the wrong foot.

My point was that the logical poe brings it down to you and me, BUT we had a clear path towards dealing with the suspicion on BOTH of us, without losing the game.

If we kill one of us today, then that person is gone. And then tonight, the council could track the other one. At that point, either the mafia would kill, and completely clear that person, or they would no kill which would buy us an extra miselim before we lose. Literally, either outcome is beneficial for town. It lets us deal with the PoE candidates AND still have a kill left if the PoE had somehow been bamboozled.

Like the only possible outcomes were clearing the most suspicious player left (you or me) OR gaining another free elimination before ELo

By not voting one of us off, then (if by some miracle neither one of us are the scum) then the council cannot clear both of us, and one of us is going to be left to be the scapegoat for the real mafia.

[Lukewarm]

@Yessiree, please vote for me, so that I can self hammer if I need to!

I'm not gonna vote you so you cannot do specifically that. Also don't self hammer as any alignment.

I am generally a strong believer in not voting for yourself, UNLESS the alternative is a no-elim, which is ofter worse for the town then a mis-elim

[yessiree]

@Yes, I think the PoE really brings it down to you or me, so I really think one of us needs to die today, and then let the council info clear/incriminate the other.

Poe is a double edged sword. Especially when you start off on the wrong foot.

My point was that the logical poe brings it down to you and me, BUT we had a clear path towards dealing with the suspicion on BOTH of us, without losing the game.

If we kill one of us today, then that person is gone. And then tonight, the council could track the other one. At that point, either the mafia would kill, and completely clear that person, or they would no kill which would buy us an extra miselim before we lose. Literally, either outcome is beneficial for town. It lets us deal with the PoE candidates AND still have a kill left if the PoE had somehow been bamboozled.

Like the only possible outcomes were clearing the most suspicious player left (you or me) OR gaining another free elimination before ELo

By not voting one of us off, then (if by some miracle neither one of us are the scum) then the council cannot clear both of us, and one of us is going to be left to be the scapegoat for the real mafia.

If you are not mafia, mafia just no kills again to solidify your elim next day. Gaining 2 mislims for free, and we are right back to another round of Poe. We no-lim here to let council do its magic. I had a plan if I got on the council but obviously that can't happen now.

[yessiree]

@Yessiree, please vote for me, so that I can self hammer if I need to!

I'm not gonna vote you so you cannot do specifically that. Also don't self hammer as any alignment.

I am generally a strong believer in not voting for yourself, UNLESS the alternative is a no-elim, which is ofter worse for the town then a mis-elim

The issue with that is the basis that we are gonna lim me next if we are wrong about you. So from my pov that's obviously a failed plan from the start.

[Lukewarm]

@Yessiree, please vote for me, so that I can self hammer if I need to!

I'm not gonna vote you so you cannot do specifically that. Also don't self hammer as any alignment.

I am generally a strong believer in not voting for yourself, UNLESS the alternative is a no-elim, which is ofter worse for the town then a mis-elim

The issue with that is the basis that we are gonna lim me next if we are wrong about you. So from my pov that's obviously a failed plan from the start.

Except that is not how it should have played out.

If we voted me, then the council would track you. If the mafia kills, then you are 100% cleared. If the mafia no-kills, then we gained an extra free elimination. Yes, you would go into tomorrow undersuspicion, BUT we would have an extra miselim before we lost.

As is, we are going to go into tomorrow with me pushing pretty hard for you, so youre still under suspicion, but now we have not gained a free elimination.

[Lukewarm]

@Yes, I think the PoE really brings it down to you or me, so I really think one of us needs to die today, and then let the council info clear/incriminate the other.

Poe is a double edged sword. Especially when you start off on the wrong foot.

My point was that the logical poe brings it down to you and me, BUT we had a clear path towards dealing with the suspicion on BOTH of us, without losing the game.

If we kill one of us today, then that person is gone. And then tonight, the council could track the other one. At that point, either the mafia would kill, and completely clear that person, or they would no kill which would buy us an extra miselim before we lose. Literally, either outcome is beneficial for town. It lets us deal with the PoE candidates AND still have a kill left if the PoE had somehow been bamboozled.

Like the only possible outcomes were clearing the most suspicious player left (you or me) OR gaining another free elimination before ELo

By not voting one of us off, then (if by some miracle neither one of us are the scum) then the council cannot clear both of us, and one of us is going to be left to be the scapegoat for the real mafia.

If you are not mafia, mafia just no kills again to solidify your elim next day. Gaining 2 mislims for free, and we are right back to another round of Poe. We no-lim here to let council do its magic. I had a plan if I got on the council but obviously that can't happen now.

You are either scum, or you are really playing into their hands. Slowing down the game helps the mafia, because the town loses all abilities after tonight. It is much better to force their hand while we have abilities, then to just wait out the clock until we have lost all of our own abilities.

[Lukewarm]

I am strongly getting the impression that you are valuing you personally not getting voted out over the town winning this game. Which obviously does not help me stop thinking you are scum...