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[OkaPoka]

also lowkey shoutout to agar

your reads were so fucking good and ur confidence was so high that i literally ignored the flashing red sign that jjh was the ub because i was like "neapolitan is obviously agar i mean look how good his reads are"

[OkaPoka]

and weirdly enough, your reads were so good that you were the biggest obstacle in me trying to get hopkirk to be the wincondition but we literally couldn't nk you because of your reads loaldfassssssssssssssssdf

[OkaPoka]

and then of course gotta say shoutout to dannflor for drawing the nightkill n1 because he was the sole person we thought that had the charisma, towniness, and leadership ability to break apart our entire plan and shepherd the townies to salvation. our only hesistation on not killing u was u were so charming that you'd be the obvious doc save and we only panic last second swapped to you.

[OkaPoka]

of course gotta call out xtoxm and dunnstral and ceph for being unlimmable motherfuckers that made the poe feel that much more crushing.

and then of course jjh for the absolute hero shots that tilted me to another dimension.

[OkaPoka]

going down the list

titus - basically ended up getting the closest to solving elo and ngl i was kinda scared the most about you in elo when hopkirk got there. i was like ah shit titus is starting to try.
innocentvillager - you were one of the few people that the collective scumteam couldn't really hardpocket one way or the other, which is pretty big props to you. a lot of the list, i felt that either me or hopkirk could count on using as vote backup or a target to lim, but you were neither which is pretty poggers.
mastina - well you singlehandedly ended my dreams of endgaming so yeah, that was pretty sad to realize that i could never win because you existed
AGar - as i said before, you probably had the scariest reads out of everyone, closest to actually solving the complete game, managed to pierce through the many attempts at water muddying we tried with herc and hop to the point where i was personally convinced you were the one sitting on a hop guilty which directly lead to buying time for jjh to make his hero play and all this time we were too scared to nk u because ur reads were that good
hopkirk/bell/luca - i love all my scumpartners
hop ur beautiful for winning this mess
bell and luca ur beautiful for replacing in and sticking with the slow collapse of the scumteam as we panicked in realization that we were all getting scumread by someone
xtoxm - an actual legitimate unlimmable motherfucker that forced us to waste a shot on a vt because there was no way in hell anyone of us were going to ever, under any circumstance, ever lim you guys
dannflor - run for president
flakes - you had some serious moments of clarity especially early d1 that tanked ducky's slot enough where i felt it carried over to bell, that's a pretty big thing to do. if i were to credit someone for the bell lim, it'd be you because pressuring ducky early really hurt bell's chances, even if i didn't want to believe it, to going far. and i know you didn't vote bell, but in reality i think tanking scum's cred early is lowkey a lot more important than actually being the vote for them.
lld - immediately the biggest threat to scum from like your third post to the point where the scumteam as a collective entirely dropped their gameplan to try and townbloc with each other and instead pivot to entirely playing around the dynamics of you. you pretty much singlehandedly forced us to hedge our bets against and with you and ended our dreams of a glorious scum super bloc.
dgb- man i got super scared of you d1 because you were dead onto me, without a doubt if you got to d2 i'd probably have eaten rope on d2 and who knows what would happen in that scenario.
jjh - if mastina was the person who heated up the fryer, you were the one who suplexed me into the hot oil
ceph - you were the person i identified as the biggest obstacle to hopkirk winning lylo because in the sea of chaos and weirdness, you were like the one person who was sane and rational to put things together. and man, you were like the only person not convinced that agar was my buddy, and that agar being my buddy thing was literally something i had been building since the end of day 1. a month's work and you managed to see through it.
ythan - i dont even know how you became such an unlimmable fucker but here we are, the utr of elo, just wow. you were my chosen nk had this ended in a nl.
a50 - you also had pretty scarily strong reads on the scumteam, i think you might've been the only person to scumread both me and hopkirk which was just frustrating because hopkirk and i had worked on this elaborate distancing trajectory since day 1. that's pretty good stuff
dunnstral - another unlimmable motherfucker that nearly singlehandedly took control of d2. dictator dunny inc

[OkaPoka]

and of course i still love u ducky and love u hercule

was very saddened to see you guys leave

[Cephrir]

In the end, I ended up having fun this game. WP. Still mad about the terrible LLD elim & sorry I couldn't save you agar.

[OkaPoka]

yooooo so b03?

[OkaPoka]

oh yeah and of course shoutout to implosion for sticking through two iterations and quickly piecing together a closed game for us to play like jesus lmfao

[implosion]

game 1 scumthread?

ah yes... it's... a doozy.

[OkaPoka]

poor xtoxm

[Dannflor]

I'm just sad Oka's dark ritual was never completed

[Dannflor]

drawing the nightkill n1

I was really hoping I wouldn't regret this so much

[Jingle]

and then of course gotta say shoutout to dannflor for drawing the nightkill n1 because he was the sole person we thought that had the charisma, towniness, and leadership ability to break apart our entire plan and shepherd the townies to salvation. our only hesistation on not killing u was u were so charming that you'd be the obvious doc save and we only panic last second swapped to you.

Dann spent like the entire event looking for any excuse to help in our games because he was so sad he couldn't play. You took this game from him you monster, and I hope you can live with your choice.

[Jingle]

BTW, Dann kept solving in this game after his death and his reads continued to be amazing even when I disagreed with him. You absolutely made the right call shooting him and he was the strongest player on our team by far.

The one time Dannflor is guaranteed not to betray me and scum picks him off first.

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Titus

I actually was scum though.

Happy Team Mafia 2021 everyone!

wow, why would you do this to us wtf? you could have hammered earlier and you didn't just because you wanted to what, waste our time? that was a pretty mean move and makes you a big meanie. i hope you can live with that.

[announcing] vanilla cop enabler

honestly, what a great fakeclaim lmfao

almost thought it was too wild to be fake lol

if you think that's wild you should see what we were considering before you flipped. i definitely would have gotten turbo lethaled if i went for something like '1-shot cop and Neapolitan enabler'

implo was I supposed to use my role before massclaim lol

the only night gypyx and I actually seriously considered using it was night 4 on hop or Titus (not that it would’ve mattered apparently cuz babysitter)

why didn't you use the role at all?

HOPKIRK YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD

HOPKIRK YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD

dang you foresaw this exact scenario up to the lylo. well planned

If I am to be honest, us scum bois did not plan it out like this at all

It was more, we fucked up losing control of the thread and we kinda undid the fuck ton of work that went into day 1/start of d2 to basically split the game into two factions, and the only way we could salvage a win out of this mess was this. Again, shoutout to hopkirk for salvaging it because even though he ended up being townread n2 during elo, getting there from how doomed it looked after 3 chained scumlims is not an easy task.

our plan was amazing. it totally didn't involve any questionable steps like 'hope town protective kills someone who's too townie for us to exile'. how close were you to picked someone else here A50?

and then of course gotta say shoutout to dannflor for drawing the nightkill n1 because he was the sole person we thought that had the charisma, towniness, and leadership ability to break apart our entire plan and shepherd the townies to salvation. our only hesistation on not killing u was u were so charming that you'd be the obvious doc save and we only panic last second swapped to you.

Dann spent like the entire event looking for any excuse to help in our games because he was so sad he couldn't play. You took this game from him you monster, and I hope you can live with your choice.

if Dann wants to play more then he needs to at least

try

and scumside even a little bit. who are we supposed to kill when there's a universally townread player who's sus of ~3 members of our team, actively wants to push one or two of us the next day, and is good at getting people to sheep him? give us something to work with Dann, at least fake a few scumslips or

something

[Hopkirk]

@Agar - your (initial) case on me was insane. That post i made about Flopz & RC was clearly a joke and framing it as 'something hop would 100% be doing as scum to try and stir stuff up and cause people actual distress as an intentional scum tactic' is basically accusing me of being a shitty person and genuinely annoyed me.

A50s D1 reads having 9 correct town, 4 scum in the 8 possible scum, and 2 of those being the two at the bottom were crazy good reads. idk why i was told during the first attempt at this game not to sheep A50.

losing Hercule was sad. i named one of the bugbear detectives in a dnd game i'm running after him. i'd call one after the worst too, but it didn't sound enough like a name

this game signaled the end of my multiyear/25ish game townstreak. F

[Hopkirk]

Oka was also an allstar this game. proof:

Somebody

, I won't say who, but somebody of good authority has told me that I am indeed first.

pedit: fuck you

once

upon a time

okapoka didn't do policy flips

but okapoka is a changed bird
VOTE: innocentvillager

"

told

ya so" an agar story

also iv its not your fault

me

have top sekrit meta read on hercule

ftr my team were briefed on hercule's scum meta and had we flipped xtoxm, hercule would have probably been bye bye, i will say koba gave us some tips on scum!hercule and even though dkkoba was like "he's town", everyone else on the team were like "but u just described his play this game"

no mention of that top sekrit thing in hercules wall so hehehehuehuehuehe

ahem then again the only reason why we wanted to flip hercule was because we thought xtoxm/hercule/mastina was it and i didn't want to push mastina

me have top sekrit meta read on hercule

ftr my team were briefed on hercule's scum meta and had we flipped xtoxm, hercule would have probably been bye bye, i will say koba gave us some tips on scum!hercule and even though dkkoba was like "he's town", everyone else on the team were like "but u just described his play this game"

no mention of that top sekrit thing in hercules wall so hehehehuehuehuehe

ahem then again the only reason why we wanted to flip hercule was because we thought xtoxm/hercule/mastina was it and i didn't want to push mastina

wait you scumread me the whole time???? damn

the

thing is if you read my iso that game i kept hinting at a fake townread and it was you lmao xd

but i really wanted to kill xtoxm and you were helping so i made a political choice

world

record any% speedrun time we are all gods of the game lets get that dub

hercule i promise u when i made that friendship poster i was townreading you

ceph snowed me though

we should keep an eye out on the warthog

is

it wrong that i just wanna vibe this game since my team already lost black flag

can people start posting stuff i don't like

gonna

scum claim just for you bb

roll

with the shitposts hopkirk its the only way to overcome adversity

you see innocentvillager openwolfing? that should be your role model

me

thinks everyone who has posted so far is town because we've clearly been spamming refresh for the past 12 hours so we can start shitposting

i'd quote more, but the posts start coming and they don't stop coming

[Nancy Drew 39]

Congrats Hoppy for winning us the game! \o/. I would have legit been tilted had we lost thing because of a certain troll that forced Oka to reroll scum.

[Gypyx]

hey implo, what i'm mostly wondering is, what exactly was the idea between game 1's setup?

(the thread is closed so i'm asking there)

[innocentvillager]

why didn't you use the role at all?

it was kind of a balance between getting more info and less but more useful info

i may have made the wrong choice, idk

Gypyx and I picked the latter. We didn't think the info at the beginning was going to be very useful at all, since if we checked town that wouldn't tell us much, and if we checked scum the entire scumteam would know whether to claim PR or not.

the plan was to obvtown, make it to massclaim, and claim VT to not get NK'd. then check suspicious people. that's why i kind of weakly pushed for massclaim on the day with killed oka.

i was kind of thinking about checking you N3 to cross check with unknown neap but i don't think you actually claimed whether or not you were VT/not VT so it would've just been a waste of a check if you were VT. i honestly kind of thought in some weird headspace that you were VT, idk. I was also thinking about checking Titus that night. I was kind of worried the whole plan would be ruined if one of you was scum though and i checked wrong (or if one of you was town and decided to out my existence), so I again decided against checking before massclaim.

[Dannflor]

A50s D1 reads having 9 correct town, 4 scum in the 8 possible scum, and 2 of those being the two at the bottom were crazy good reads. idk why i was told during the first attempt at this game not to sheep A50.

losing Hercule was sad. i named one of the bugbear detectives in a dnd game i'm running after him. i'd call one after the worst too, but it didn't sound enough like a name

this game signaled the end of my multiyear/25ish game townstreak. F

From what I can gather, A50 actually has a lot of games where he just absolutely goes off on every single detail and gets everything scarily accurate

Jingle and I thought he was town pretty early on but we should've been sheeping him too!

[innocentvillager]

yeah holy A50 had really good reads. it's unfortunate that i was the one he chose to babysit

[implosion]

One potentially hilarious version of this that did not play out: if innocentvillager targeted Hopkirk n4 and everything else remained the same, Hopkirk would have gotten a PM saying "you were targeted by a vanilla cop" and probably had a moment of horrible panic before opening the thread and seeing he was dead.

hey implo, what i'm mostly wondering is, what exactly was the idea between game 1's setup?

(the thread is closed so i'm asking there)

By "between" you mean what was the idea of this one compared to the last one? It was basically an entirely different setup if so. The idea of the first one was large number of info roles that can maybe piece together something useful if they combine knowledge but with some of them belonging to scum.

[OkaPoka]

a50 definitely had some insane moments of clarity

1) he was one of two players (you as well dann xd) to pick up on a plan of scum trying to townbloc each other (we later dropped this plan, but you can see artifacts of this plan)
2) he was i think the only person to pursue the idea that me and hopkirk were both scum into the d2/d3/d4 which is pretty nuts. i think nobody else had both me and hop at the top if their lim list which was literally one of me and hop's primary goal, trying to split everybody's reads into either scumreading a me + xyz team or a hop + xyz team and a50 being immune to all of that noise is pretty nutty