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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 1470, Infinity 324 wrote:The scummiest thing about peta so far is how he's pushing strongly for a thing he believes (nacho town, townbloc has scum) without having figured much out himself
Okay I ISO'd to see what the reasoning on The Bulge was but found this instead.

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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 1749, Iverson wrote:As a warning, it's going to be awhile before I read the game, and it will probably be very piecemeal. 3-4 days before I completely finish.

Where should I be voting?
at this point i'd really prefer a fresh unbiased view of the game, especially if you plan to catch up via reading the whole game anyway, than i would trying to color your impressions beforehand.
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:18 am

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In post 1750, Iverson wrote:
In post 1470, Infinity 324 wrote:The scummiest thing about peta so far is how he's pushing strongly for a thing he believes (nacho town, townbloc has scum) without having figured much out himself
Okay I ISO'd to see what the reasoning on The Bulge was but found this instead.

VOTE: Infinity
? And peta was scum so?
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:19 am

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What makes that post so bad is the quoted behavior from petapan is not scummy in the slightest unless you're already approaching it from a perspective of knowing petapan is scum.

As long as you have Nacho town you can defend it regardless of where you're at with the rest of the game. Asserting a townbloc has scum if you don't have many other reads is not surprising in the slightest.
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:20 am

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In post 980, Infinity 324 wrote:I think bulge's observation about my posting is actually a good one, though he picks on very odd things to think are AI and that worries me
In post 985, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 973, The Bulge wrote:("idk how scum think" is such a bizarre thing to say!!!). 454 is insane and has to be fake, what do you mean you don't believe skitter's mood would have changed since "just a few days ago"?????
I was thinking that acting really baffled about a townie's play might be scummy, because town tends to resort to "sometimes town just act weird" or "ok you're just scum" depending on your philosophy. Not sure though.
In post 986, Infinity 324 wrote:Bulge why didn't you ask a clarifying question about the skitt read? Or try to take into account the context (skitt's overall enjoyment of playing scum lately)?
These are my thoughts on bulge, which is a scumread since I have too many TRs
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:20 am

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VOTE: notmafia

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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:20 am

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In post 1753, Iverson wrote:What makes that post so bad is the quoted behavior from petapan is not scummy in the slightest unless you're already approaching it from a perspective of knowing petapan is scum.

As long as you have Nacho town you can defend it regardless of where you're at with the rest of the game. Asserting a townbloc has scum if you don't have many other reads is not surprising in the slightest.
I don't agree at all
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:22 am

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Nacho flipping green makes me want to cull the townblock.

But not Bork.
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:22 am

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Normally there's at least some level of uncertainty that comes with not having figured the game out, peta was approaching it with an agenda. Kismet notsci I and to a lesser extent VFT are all very towny but peta was so sure there was scum in that group without knowing who it was.
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:24 am

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I knew peta was scum and should have just said kill him first.

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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:24 am

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I don't like the quoted 980s, particularly 980. I'll hold judgement on The Bulge.
In post 1755, notscience wrote:VOTE: notmafia

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You throw in the towel fast.
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:26 am

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I spent all of last day tuning out my friend so he couldn’t soothesay me because I was that confident in myself.

I also told mena if he flipped green I’d give him my vote for the day.

You want my vote? Earn it.
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:26 am

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In post 1758, Infinity 324 wrote:Normally there's at least some level of uncertainty that comes with not having figured the game out, peta was approaching it with an agenda. Kismet notsci I and to a lesser extent VFT are all very towny but
peta was so sure there was scum in that group without knowing who it was.
Though I'm limited by game knowledge, I strongly disagree that this is scummy and think this points to an informed perspective on your end.
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:27 am

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In post 1761, notscience wrote:I spent all of last day tuning out my friend so he couldn’t soothesay me because I was that confident in myself.

I also told mena if he flipped green I’d give him my vote for the day.

You want my vote? Earn it.
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:28 am

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In post 1762, Iverson wrote:Though I'm limited by game knowledge, I strongly disagree that this is scummy and think this points to an informed perspective on your end.
Why can't I disagree with you on theory here
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:29 am

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In post 1764, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1762, Iverson wrote:Though I'm limited by game knowledge, I strongly disagree that this is scummy and think this points to an informed perspective on your end.
Why can't I disagree with you on theory here
I'm here to make educated guesses not to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:30 am

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I still mostly think Mara is town; i think her reaction to the nacho wagon is definitely the road not taken and she could've easily hopped on Nacho as a survivalist effort or made herself the 6th vote knowing i was basically going to hammer at deadline and wanted nacho more than i wanted her

peta was also the biggest driver on that wagon and it makes sense as scum if he was going to come in w/ the express purpose of defending nacho it was with the intent of creating a wagon on another townie

instead she said she'd rather take the no-elim - which as she correctly pointed out, isn't anti-town on D1
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:31 am

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In post 1765, Iverson wrote:
In post 1764, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1762, Iverson wrote:Though I'm limited by game knowledge, I strongly disagree that this is scummy and think this points to an informed perspective on your end.
Why can't I disagree with you on theory here
I'm here to make educated guesses not to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
It's pretty easy to see by reading my ISO that I disagree with everyone on like 90% of mafia theory so if you are trying to read me like this you'll have a bad time.
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:36 am

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Scum often don't know how confident to be, especially when they replace in, town generally have examples in mind when they're suspicious of a group. Peta didn't want to point to examples because the townies were all transparently town and he didn't want to sow paranoia on a buddy. If you want I can argue this point with you until I can convince you I believe it
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:37 am

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Is this disagreement only theoretical to you?

The replacement generalization is interesting and I'll watch for it.
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:38 am

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Bork help me kill notmaf please
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:38 am

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But I'm town
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:38 am

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In post 1757, notscience wrote:Nacho flipping green makes me want to cull the townblock.

But not Bork.
Do you have any other opinions or shift of thought in light of the flips?

Saying you were wrong on Nacho and right on peta is very limited.
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:39 am

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I don't think you're scummy for calling my peta read scummy, but maybe I can get something AI from this interaction
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:39 am

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VOTE: not_mafia
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