Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[Iverson]

The scummiest thing about peta so far is how he's pushing strongly for a thing he believes (nacho town, townbloc has scum) without having figured much out himself

Okay I ISO'd to see what the reasoning on The Bulge was but found this instead.

VOTE: Infinity

[Kismet]

As a warning, it's going to be awhile before I read the game, and it will probably be very piecemeal. 3-4 days before I completely finish.

Where should I be voting?

at this point i'd really prefer a fresh unbiased view of the game, especially if you plan to catch up via reading the whole game anyway, than i would trying to color your impressions beforehand.

[Infinity 324]

The scummiest thing about peta so far is how he's pushing strongly for a thing he believes (nacho town, townbloc has scum) without having figured much out himself

Okay I ISO'd to see what the reasoning on The Bulge was but found this instead.

VOTE: Infinity

? And peta was scum so?

[Iverson]

What makes that post so bad is the quoted behavior from petapan is not scummy in the slightest unless you're already approaching it from a perspective of knowing petapan is scum.

As long as you have Nacho town you can defend it regardless of where you're at with the rest of the game. Asserting a townbloc has scum if you don't have many other reads is not surprising in the slightest.

[Infinity 324]

I think bulge's observation about my posting is actually a good one, though he picks on very odd things to think are AI and that worries me

("idk how scum think" is such a bizarre thing to say!!!). 454 is insane and has to be fake, what do you mean you don't believe skitter's mood would have changed since "just a few days ago"?????

I was thinking that acting really baffled about a townie's play might be scummy, because town tends to resort to "sometimes town just act weird" or "ok you're just scum" depending on your philosophy. Not sure though.

Bulge why didn't you ask a clarifying question about the skitt read? Or try to take into account the context (skitt's overall enjoyment of playing scum lately)?

These are my thoughts on bulge, which is a scumread since I have too many TRs

[notscience]

VOTE: notmafia

I’m trash, I’ll sheep mena, etc

[Infinity 324]

What makes that post so bad is the quoted behavior from petapan is not scummy in the slightest unless you're already approaching it from a perspective of knowing petapan is scum.

As long as you have Nacho town you can defend it regardless of where you're at with the rest of the game. Asserting a townbloc has scum if you don't have many other reads is not surprising in the slightest.

I don't agree at all

[notscience]

Nacho flipping green makes me want to cull the townblock.

But not Bork.

[Infinity 324]

Normally there's at least some level of uncertainty that comes with not having figured the game out, peta was approaching it with an agenda. Kismet notsci I and to a lesser extent VFT are all very towny but peta was so sure there was scum in that group without knowing who it was.

[notscience]

I knew peta was scum and should have just said kill him first.

I’m sorry.

[Iverson]

I don't like the quoted 980s, particularly 980. I'll hold judgement on The Bulge.

VOTE: notmafia

I’m trash, I’ll sheep mena, etc

You throw in the towel fast.

[notscience]

I spent all of last day tuning out my friend so he couldn’t soothesay me because I was that confident in myself.

I also told mena if he flipped green I’d give him my vote for the day.

You want my vote? Earn it.

[Iverson]

Normally there's at least some level of uncertainty that comes with not having figured the game out, peta was approaching it with an agenda. Kismet notsci I and to a lesser extent VFT are all very towny but

peta was so sure there was scum in that group without knowing who it was.

Though I'm limited by game knowledge, I strongly disagree that this is scummy and think this points to an informed perspective on your end.

[Iverson]

I spent all of last day tuning out my friend so he couldn’t soothesay me because I was that confident in myself.

I also told mena if he flipped green I’d give him my vote for the day.

You want my vote? Earn it.

As much as I love AI I'd can't say I want to repeat the carry job of the 2001 Sixers. I like having teammates.

[Infinity 324]

Though I'm limited by game knowledge, I strongly disagree that this is scummy and think this points to an informed perspective on your end.

Why can't I disagree with you on theory here

[Iverson]

Though I'm limited by game knowledge, I strongly disagree that this is scummy and think this points to an informed perspective on your end.

Why can't I disagree with you on theory here

I'm here to make educated guesses not to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

[Kismet]

I still mostly think Mara is town; i think her reaction to the nacho wagon is definitely the road not taken and she could've easily hopped on Nacho as a survivalist effort or made herself the 6th vote knowing i was basically going to hammer at deadline and wanted nacho more than i wanted her

peta was also the biggest driver on that wagon and it makes sense as scum if he was going to come in w/ the express purpose of defending nacho it was with the intent of creating a wagon on another townie

instead she said she'd rather take the no-elim - which as she correctly pointed out, isn't anti-town on D1

[Infinity 324]

Though I'm limited by game knowledge, I strongly disagree that this is scummy and think this points to an informed perspective on your end.

Why can't I disagree with you on theory here

I'm here to make educated guesses not to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

It's pretty easy to see by reading my ISO that I disagree with everyone on like 90% of mafia theory so if you are trying to read me like this you'll have a bad time.

[Infinity 324]

Scum often don't know how confident to be, especially when they replace in, town generally have examples in mind when they're suspicious of a group. Peta didn't want to point to examples because the townies were all transparently town and he didn't want to sow paranoia on a buddy. If you want I can argue this point with you until I can convince you I believe it

[Iverson]

Is this disagreement only theoretical to you?

The replacement generalization is interesting and I'll watch for it.

[notscience]

Bork help me kill notmaf please

[Not_Mafia]

But I'm town

[Iverson]

Nacho flipping green makes me want to cull the townblock.

But not Bork.

Do you have any other opinions or shift of thought in light of the flips?

Saying you were wrong on Nacho and right on peta is very limited.

[Infinity 324]

I don't think you're scummy for calling my peta read scummy, but maybe I can get something AI from this interaction

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: not_mafia