Again, not a slip. Remember the ENTIRE SEGMENT OF THE DAY where T3 was asking people if they were jailer? I made the reasonable assumption based on thatIn post 671, Pearofclubs wrote:Catboi's slip is fairly damning, but I'm not sure how VFP is suspect at the moment?
In post 436, iN3krO wrote:I'm no jailkeeper so I didn't jail a scumread.
Let's update my PoE
VOTE: SamaWoodo
eurgh. I don't know, actually. T3+VFP looks possible. I can't rule out bus voting as sometimes people play suboptimally but it seems weird that that's the route he'd go on day 2 with a doc save, unless maybe they rolecopped a PRIn post 451, iN3krO wrote:He was neutral for me in D1 and clearly my reads were off so I think it's better to start there (since T3 picked up the pace compared to Tori)In post 447, catboi wrote:Why samawoodo?In post 436, iN3krO wrote:I'm no jailkeeper so I didn't jail a scumread.
Let's update my PoE
VOTE: SamaWoodo
In post 474, T3 wrote:Sam is in the PoE but is null. We should ocus on people who have actually done scummy stuff instead.
okay, T3 and VFP are actually very compatibleIn post 477, T3 wrote:Meuh and NM ar hard townreads. Meuh is actively contributing, giving reasons and there were quite a few bad votes on NM yesterday.
Pear is town for showing a solvey attitude and willingness to consider others POV while giving valid reasoning.
I am town becuase I am.
catboi is leanscum. It seems to me like all catboi is doing here is justifocations and excuses.
Sama has not soneanything, we wait for the replacement and see.
in3 is leanscum for the reasons outline in Meuh's post.
marci is scum for a general faked tone, questioning jailkeeper results, and fluffing without any real reads.
Sama is not a good vote for today.
Do not like this change in direction tbh. I read catboi's posts as a last ditch effort to switch the vote off of him before the hammer, and then I saw you doing just that.
When VFP scum read Catboi, he immediately voiced a defense of him without reason.In post 502, catboi wrote:I fairly already explained why I thought he might be scum - he was merely declaring reads rather than outright voting them.In post 500, VFP wrote:423 is scummy. Cat boi looks to be testing the waters with this post.
I'm not sure why they don't just vote my slot before the replace in though as I read their ISO as convenient or safe. Maybe town credit here.
@CatboiWhat makes NM scum possibility to you after 27?
On a kneejerk level I heavily disagree with a pearofclubs vote
Which is funny, because my sneaking suspicion is that it just might be you, and that your start of Day 1 completely bamboozled me.In post 683, Meuh wrote:Like his behaviour in isolation I can see from scum but looking at the broader scope of the game, I can't really picture Catboi as part of the mafia
He seems so blindly confident in his town read of pear, with nothing backing up that read. That blind confidence feels to me like he already knew Pear's alignment, and had just decided "I'm going to defend pear because of the doc save" today.In post 684, Lukewarm wrote:When VFP scum read Catboi, he immediately voiced a defense of him without reason.In post 502, catboi wrote:I fairly already explained why I thought he might be scum - he was merely declaring reads rather than outright voting them.In post 500, VFP wrote:423 is scummy. Cat boi looks to be testing the waters with this post.
I'm not sure why they don't just vote my slot before the replace in though as I read their ISO as convenient or safe. Maybe town credit here.
@CatboiWhat makes NM scum possibility to you after 27?
On a kneejerk level I heavily disagree with a pearofclubs vote
And when I made my case against Pear, that he might have been making up an anecdote, his only argument was "no one does that."
He was the most vocal and frequent defender of pear, without ever giving any reasoning behind his defense. Post 482, 502, 567, 579, 602, 618, are all defense posts of pear, without ever providing a town read defense. This is what I mean when I say his defense felt disingenuous.
MeuhXCatboi would be a legendary team tbh, too bad I'm townIn post 685, Lukewarm wrote:Which is funny, because my sneaking suspicion is that it just might be you, and that your start of Day 1 completely bamboozled me.In post 683, Meuh wrote:Like his behaviour in isolation I can see from scum but looking at the broader scope of the game, I can't really picture Catboi as part of the mafia
But I would very much like to be able to spend Night 2 examining everyone's interactions with Catboi
Hmm I can see that on a reread, yeah. Still though, even if there is a disingenuous tone to his posting about Pear, if there's no realistic scummates for him, I can't really justify this elimIn post 686, Lukewarm wrote:He seems so blindly confident in his town read of pear, with nothing backing up that read. That blind confidence feels to me like he already knew Pear's alignment, and had just decided "I'm going to defend pear because of the doc save" today.In post 684, Lukewarm wrote:When VFP scum read Catboi, he immediately voiced a defense of him without reason.In post 502, catboi wrote:I fairly already explained why I thought he might be scum - he was merely declaring reads rather than outright voting them.In post 500, VFP wrote:423 is scummy. Cat boi looks to be testing the waters with this post.
I'm not sure why they don't just vote my slot before the replace in though as I read their ISO as convenient or safe. Maybe town credit here.
@CatboiWhat makes NM scum possibility to you after 27?
On a kneejerk level I heavily disagree with a pearofclubs vote
And when I made my case against Pear, that he might have been making up an anecdote, his only argument was "no one does that."
He was the most vocal and frequent defender of pear, without ever giving any reasoning behind his defense. Post 482, 502, 567, 579, 602, 618, are all defense posts of pear, without ever providing a town read defense. This is what I mean when I say his defense felt disingenuous.
This is where I'm at, if VFP flips town I'm looking at catboi for tomorrow, if he flips scum I'm looking at LukewarmIn post 683, Meuh wrote:Like his behaviour in isolation I can see from scum but looking at the broader scope of the game, I can't really picture Catboi as part of the mafia
I am not sure how you are eliminating the possibility of a [t3, catboi] team?In post 688, Meuh wrote:there's no realistic scummates for him, I can't really justify this elim
I wish I had that kind of confidence right now lol.In post 690, VFP wrote:Regardless I'm pretty sure this is just a win.
Meuh not visiting makes them town here as they would have been visiting for either the kill or the Rolecop.
Pear being protected means town.
2 PR claims not CC.
This means we have 4 town out of 7 going into night 2.
Scum are only possible to be in me, T3, Catboi, and Lukewarm.
I don't think T3 is scum here so the pool narrows down to me, Catboi, and Lukewarm with T3 as the additional.
NM dies tonight, we have 3 town and a clear on someone. Scum flip today means that we have 4 town out of 6 players.
There's really nothing to try and solve here.
Yes, actually, pushing a doc save target to see who defends them so you can narrow down the doctor, and possibly even force them to out if enough people join you, is incredibly basic play, to write it off as something scum wouldn't do is bad WIFOM which ignores the benefits of doing soIn post 681, Lukewarm wrote:When I was deciding between vfp and catboi, I stopped and through about how they handled the day if they knew that they had targeted pear, and he had lived. Is it more likely that they decided to open up the day with a hard scum read on Pear, knowing that a PR could hard clear them (VFP), and therefore make themselves suspicious for hard scum reading a confirmable town?.
In post 583, Lukewarm wrote:Meuh- Meuh was one tier up as of like 80% of the way through Day 1, like almost every post from the beginning of the day just screamed town at me, but they did fall slightly at the end of the day because they came across like they were okay with almost every elim option presented
Going back on a townread to paranoid WIFOM reasoning not cearing her just screems desperation to keep the available elim options openIn post 692, Lukewarm wrote:I wish I had that kind of confidence right now lol.In post 690, VFP wrote:Regardless I'm pretty sure this is just a win.
Meuh not visiting makes them town here as they would have been visiting for either the kill or the Rolecop.
Pear being protected means town.
2 PR claims not CC.
This means we have 4 town out of 7 going into night 2.
Scum are only possible to be in me, T3, Catboi, and Lukewarm.
I don't think T3 is scum here so the pool narrows down to me, Catboi, and Lukewarm with T3 as the additional.
NM dies tonight, we have 3 town and a clear on someone. Scum flip today means that we have 4 town out of 6 players.
There's really nothing to try and solve here.
Is it not possible that one scum does both the rolecop ability and the kill? If so, how can you clear Meuh?
Sorry, can't take read advice from my top scum read, maybe we can touch back on this topic in the post-game /sIn post 693, catboi wrote:Yes, actually, pushing a doc save target to see who defends them so you can narrow down the doctor, and possibly even force them to out if enough people join you, is incredibly basic play, to write it off as something scum wouldn't do is bad WIFOM which ignores the benefits of doing soIn post 681, Lukewarm wrote:When I was deciding between vfp and catboi, I stopped and through about how they handled the day if they knew that they had targeted pear, and he had lived. Is it more likely that they decided to open up the day with a hard scum read on Pear, knowing that a PR could hard clear them (VFP), and therefore make themselves suspicious for hard scum reading a confirmable town?.
My understanding is 1 action per player in newbies.In post 692, Lukewarm wrote:Is it not possible that one scum does both the rolecop ability and the kill? If so, how can you clear Meuh?