Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[Vasex]

Ok, one more question for now. Are you talking about the last Mark's posts, the first ones or all of them?

[KittyTacky]

I will admit my pointing-out of a "scumslip" was to justify Enchant just generally looking scummy to me and I needed a justification besides "he looks sus lol".

[Vasex]

Kitty, usually u are so concerned about overreaction, but your cop's reaction to other cop's claim is definitely not enough... Almost no reaction at all. How is it possible?

[DeathNote]

I'd vote out both cops to be honest.

I know the correct play is to leave them both alive for a round in a game this large but... idk, I don't care if they both die.

[DeathNote]

Work has been pretty heavy and maybe I'm not ready for a large normal. I'll probably be better as the game gets smaller but for now I'm just going to sheep townie votes.

that being said, I don't know where my vote should be right now and I'll see if I can figure that out tomorrow.

[Vasex]

Honestly, i dont know much common rules and statistics of appearing two cops in one game, but if there is very big chance of 1 scum in kitty-t3, then kitty's reaction on t3 is so so bad... He likes reading wiki and played here more games than me, so he should know this possibility even better than me. But smth tells me that they are not 2 true cops, that will be weird and so unbelievable accident

[Vasex]

I'd vote out both cops to be honest.

I know the correct play is to leave them both alive for a round in a game this large but... idk, I don't care if they both die.

Is there any way to elim them both in one time today?) Maybe some rule in mechanics

And i agree that at least 1 scum here

But i can understand the necessity to wait for checks and think about it more after night kill.

[Anastasia]

Ok, one more question for now. Are you talking about the last Mark's posts, the first ones or all of them?

I've skimmed all of his posts and I think he's someone I can trust - he's got a very carefree and confident tone that I find very appealing.

His response to Etine's distress feels like it comes from a place of genuine sympathy.

[Anastasia]

Hi. I'm breaking character for a moment to say this to you all:

I've been playing up a exaggerated sense of oneself, and my objective this game was to have fun and be a clown. I wanted to let loose and be positive. I've had too many games where I feel in a very negative headspace and it was taking a toll on me.

You guys aren't taking my words with sensitivity, despite my willingness to open up. I've pretty much done my job here. I'm not vibing with the high majority of active and I claimed my role because I was worn out by the unending shit I was getting. I've been dreading coming in here and I feel extremely done with the game in general. If you want to lim me on the merit of information (which is always a stupid fucking reason), by all means do it. Now that I've broken the facade, I've pretty much failed on my own objective. Maybe a lot of you resonate more with cold and factual instead of free-spirited. I don't know really. I'm not saying this to get your pity, because really I'm not generally an emotional player. If there are reads people want me to clarify on, I will do so.

It might be wrong to say but I just have that little faith based on my own personal reads. At least for D1? I'm not going to sit here and whine and say you guys are gonna lose the game if you vote me. I did however feel something existential as the day progressed. The pressure I felt was more or less internal. I am completely aware that I wasn't near death and my claim wasn't well-thought. However? I did it because I want the shock effect of doing so to maybe get others to rethink my slot. Maybe even get them to talk about other things. When you are the center of discussion, it's fine for a little bit because you get a personal outlook on how people are reading your slot. However, if that continues to ad nauseum, it gets very overbearing and it's hard to find goodwill in a sea of misguided townies, compared to opportunistic scum.

Honestly that should tip you off right there as to why my lim is probably bad and I'm town, because nobody wants to deal with the consequence of my death. They want to chalk it up as my fault and nothing else.

This feels very much like hurt town to me

I hope you feel better Etine!

[Anastasia]

NDMath might be scum.

What does everyone think?

[Vasex]

Anastasia, who is a scum? Find at least one, maybe a range of scummies. Before that your searching for townies is good, but it can be interpetated now as trying to save yourself making as much allies as possible.
You dont want to elim kitty and t3, so you have alternates instead of you for elimination: Cabd and Enchant. Of course you can propose someone else

[Vasex]

Oh, you wrote it before my post, okay

[Vasex]

What does everyone think?

I wont be crying if he dies.
There were some strange moments about him...

[Anastasia]

If you look at ND's posting iso, there is little substance and few posts.

Most importantly he does not seem to engage with the action that's happened already today in the major wagons.

He barely says anything about Etine's alignment - this type of hands off approach is often used by scum who do not want their fingerprints on an early town-wagon.

His read on kitty switched from town to scum fairly quickly and I don't really see the justification for the progression.

[Vasex]

Thats funny that the most strange moment was his defending of you,Artemiana. And now you think he is a scum. Interesting.

[Vasex]

Do you know ND from other games?

[Anastasia]

if you pull up NDMath's iso and F5 "Etine" you can read all of the comments he made about Etine. I believe that is stranger than his defending of my predecessor.

[Anastasia]

Do you know ND from other games?

I can't say we are acquainted with each other.

[Anastasia]

Who would you like to eliminate today Vasex?

[Vasex]

You

[Anastasia]

That's interesting.

Would you like to tell me why?

[Anastasia]

You don't have to lay out a case that's incredibly convincing if you don't have one.

Just the first reason that comes to your mind is fine.

[Vasex]

I used to say in my previous game
VOTE: NOTE: I don't know how popular here to destroy your partners from the very beginning, so I proceed on the assumption that this is not so common phenomenon everywhere, especially in Newbie games.

Maybe it is not so applicable here, but I feel that first impressions of defending between partners can be reliable. I think nobody wants to lose a scum partner on the first day. They xan do tgat, but tgey dont want it and must try smth else.

So I found Artemiana was defending Kitty (attacking Mark immediately after his vote for Kitty; attacking me and... attacking claimed Etine lol), then she was defending Andre against me with strange confidence, then strange defending of Artemiana from the side of NDMath... Somewhere here is a scum or scummies. Some defending can be not only defending if the partners but also can be pocketing of townie, making allies...
Then instant searching for replacement of Artemiana after the vote for her from DGB.
And this strang password problem, this is so bad reason not to be active... really.

Yeah, you are trying so much to fix these problems,and some possible townies (maybe top townies) think that you are a townie (even Artemiana). Im not so sure. Maybe for now, idk

[Vasex]

I wanted to quote, not vote
Sorry

[Andresvmb]

ugh you know what
vote kitty
if kitty isn't scum vote me tomorrow i'm just a 1 shot bulletproof and after everyone RANDOLY scumreading it's not like mafia will ever try to kill me

Roles do exist that can pierce through vests you know that right?