Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

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Vote Count 2-5

The Bulge

(3): Venus Fly Trap, notscience, Infinity 324

Not_Mafia

(3): Disaster Cartel, SirCakez, Iverson

Not Voting

(4): The Bulge, Momrangal, Not_Mafia, Kismet

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Deadline: May 11, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-05-10 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Kismet]

I mean yeah, I just think for someone so adamant nacho was town she did fuckall to stop the wagon (granted she is going to blame me and I do agree I am at least part to blame) but like even peta did more lol

i don't necessarily think that makes her scum, especially if she didn't feel she was being listened to

[Kismet]

this is getting to the point where i'm worrying that i'm making excuses to feed my own confbias though.

i need to remember to flip the dial from send to receive a little more often.

[notscience]

A wise man once told me if certain people in the PoE keep escaping eliminations look at whos leading

so like, yeah

I want to kill bulge more than mara I just have misgivings (but I do see your points)

ninja-
Yeah, I think that's a fair thing to say. I think what nacho said in his wall was something that bothered me too, it took her super long to really get going and she was continually asking for handholding/a recap (she'd later accuse me of doing it) and he was saying she would normally find something to chase.

[notscience]

At a glance at the wagon Im feeling some kinda way given how this same group went yesterday

mmmm

[notscience]

Im going to bed

if im here tomorrow night ill be drunk

so if you wanna drunk post with me lemme know good night all

[Kismet]

so if you wanna drunk post with me lemme know good night all

wed is a good day to drink for me

[Iverson]

It was a joke since I was not in the list, yes.

that was the list of people i'm mostly townreading, to be clear, and you're kinda floating just barely outside it

Now that's the healthy amount of respect I love to see

[SirCakez]

cakes can you explain in more detail what led you to switch to voting nacho yesterday?

- lilith

notsci asked me to and I thought he was pretty town at the time, plus Nacho was making a bunch of arguments that aligned with my other scumreads. And I liked the wagon composition.

NM and Cakes are for sure my top two scum reads.

He's playing against me the exact same way he did against my slot in

JVS Shady tree game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
And is showing similar play to boonietoons
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

And after that reiso I realized that he didn't even know that I had entered the game so him even saying that me being forgetable=scum!Mara is disingenuous

He was scum both those games, and both those games i caught him out.

I don't see this but okay

Peta was scum for the hammer plus his predecessor has meta history of lurking out as scum

If he hadn’t flipped I would have pushed it to hell and back today

Same

My question for you is: Can you, in your paraphrasing, describe why the vote on NM followed by the vote on Cakez made sense to notscience?

he said he ws going to sheep mena today on nm if nacho was town
nacho was town
he entered voting nm
nm wagon shot up and he unvoted upon it being declared e1 (not that it was, but it may have looked like it in the moment)
i don't know if i understand the motivation for the cakez vote per se so much as notsci was just looking for somewhere to place his vote
but i don't really have an issue with this sequence of events

I think this looks really suspicious if NM is scum

[SirCakez]

Some people have been saying the NM wagon was too easy; if that's so why are we seeing so much resistance and alternatives (like myself) being thrown up?

[SirCakez]

If N_M is town then things are kind of fucky but realistically I think it’s unlikely

Like he’s scummy for him comparatively and there’s also enough +town slots that he’s also just v likely scum via PoE

if he somehow is town then at least the scum flip we get from it should be v helpful

Overthinking this and dragging it out a million years is not gonna help at all

It’s still like (N_M, cakez) and then probably some combination of (bulge, mom, iverson, infinity) but again, if cakez + N_M are right then so long as scum is not literally just the townbloc the game is p much in auto

why is NM trying to get me elimmed if he is my buddy? I'm definitely in a better position than him if we are both scum from your POV.

Really don't like the Bulge wagon popping up randomly

[SirCakez]

It’s not even like bulge is town it’s just that if we’re wagoning a non-contenta slot the better one to do first is VERY CLEARLY the one that couldn’t get off the ground at all yesterday and that was used, partly, to get the susp train rolling on the only flipped town we have

I like this post and logic a lot.

Is skitt out of her scumrange?

PEdit: one is scummy by posting and PoE and one is only scummy by PoE? I don't get what's so difficult to understand here

I'm not sure who this was aimed at but I think Skitter is.

I've never fallen this far behind and not been uberstressed about it 24/7. if you're seeing changes it's cuz im making em

You can skip a lot of pages, not that much has happened

after the game apathied there’s now an attempt to wagon you instead which tbf i think is townled but I still feel more confident and realistically I think we’re doing one of you so if ur town you should really vote him

My q here is if the Bulge wagon is scum driven who are the scum driving it? Notsci?

[SirCakez]

why couldn't scum just have sat back and let town bury Nacho and then driven it home with the last few votes? we already know the hammer was scum

[Infinity 324]

Really don't like the Bulge wagon popping up randomly

Who's scum on the bulge

[Infinity 324]

I honestly don't get why people are so confident NM is scum here and not bulge, has bulge done anything towny? It's making me more confident in my bulge vote if anything

[Infinity 324]

I still think most of the people defending NM yesterday are town and the people pushing NM are much less so. The weirdest part is that the people pushing NM seem to agree and don't TR each other that strongly right?

[Infinity 324]

one is scummy by posting and PoE and one is only scummy by PoE? I don't get what's so difficult to understand here

This was to ydrasse but anyone insisting on the NM wagon can answer, though iverson had some independent reasons to SR NM so that made sense

[SirCakez]

Really don't like the Bulge wagon popping up randomly

Who's scum on the bulge

that's what I'm wondering; see later in my post dump
I think it has to be notsci? I TR VFT and Infinity much more.

I honestly don't get why people are so confident NM is scum here and not bulge, has bulge done anything towny? It's making me more confident in my bulge vote if anything

I really liked his day 1; but there's no denying his posting today has been nothing.

I still think most of the people defending NM yesterday are town and the people pushing NM are much less so. The weirdest part is that the people pushing NM seem to agree and don't TR each other that strongly right?

I've liked DC and Iverson more lately.

[SirCakez]

I SR NM independently of POE

[Infinity 324]

Ok why

[Iverson]

I scumread NM because he's intentionally curbing his interactions with players. He said 3 scum were on his wagons, gave an okayish reason for Cakez, and peaced despite keeping tabs on thread.

I realize he's NM but I feel there's a reason he's not getting into it with my slot or others over this.

[Infinity 324]

Can you give a current readslist too? It's hard for me to believe that bulge isn't in your PoE with so many towny people in the game

[Infinity 324]

I scumread NM because he's intentionally curbing his interactions with players. He said 3 scum were on his wagons, gave an okayish reason for Cakez, and peaced despite keeping tabs on thread.

I realize he's NM but I feel there's a reason he's not getting into it with my slot or others over this.

I'm ok with this reason but tbh I would've expected unicorns go fall from the sky over NM answering a follow-up question

[Iverson]

I don't think that's to me but

Townlean: Infinity, Kismet, Momrangal
Null: DC, Bulge
Scumlean: VFT, notscience, Cakez
Scum: NM

Scumlean pile can go in any order, Cakez is there because of NM's side of interactions+just going through the motions at points. notscience softened for false bravado. The voteswitch was incredibly jarring to me but I am thinking I took the start about NM/Mena too seriously. I got an unvote for temerity but voting elsewhere instead was just, hm.

Kismet is a complete 180 in level of depth/thoughtfulness from the scumgames I have seen and I want to call it hardtown but I'm knocking him down out of spite

[Iverson]

I might slot notscience back down for exactly what I said above but that whole sequence was so against the daystart or any idea of solving, and more in favor of awareness of where his vote is, that it is jarring to me