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[Andresvmb]

you dont have a rolecop ability

Then Insidious is always Scum. And they’re signaling to Pooky that they know they’re the Traitor.

if i was traitor i wouldve just hammered koba lolol

stop being bad

Sure Pooky I’m “bad” again. Is that all you got? Or do you actually have ideas?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sure Pooky I’m “bad” again. Is that all you got? Or do you actually have ideas?

im just informing you that your belief is obviously wrong for obvious reason

[InsidiousLemons]

if y'all could stop 3-on-1 tag teaming me and give me a chance to respond to individual threads of reasoning that would be great.

@andres what about my pushes on andante is scum indicative to you?
@dkkoba my last game on here was played when i was fourteen years old. i'm still the same human being but meta at that point is pretty much useless. please show me which posts you see these crumbs in because i have no idea what you could possibly be referring to
@vfp what is the partner equity you see between myself and anya? or are you going based off of individual reads on each of us?

[VFP]

this is confirmed wrong because the number of guns in this solve is wrong

koba vig asteria neapo = 2 guns

anya/lemons = 2 guns

our dead informed gunsmith = 1 gun

btw our dead informed gunsmith said there were 4 guns

That's true actually.
So Roleblocker Traitor and Doc Anya?

[Andresvmb]

never wavered from my townread for long and never advocated an andante elim

This is clearly a lie I don’t care what you say.

Like never advocating for an Andante execution is just slimy wording. It’s not taking any ownership over your actual words. You clearly implied they could be Scum, questioned how some of their posts could ever be made from a Town mindset, but yeah maybe you never voted there so you never strictly advocated for their execution. Like give me a break.

[Andresvmb]

Sure Pooky I’m “bad” again. Is that all you got? Or do you actually have ideas?

im just informing you that your belief is obviously wrong for obvious reason

And what’s that obvious reason?

[Andresvmb]

Sure Pooky I’m “bad” again. Is that all you got? Or do you actually have ideas?

im just informing you that your belief is obviously wrong for obvious reason

And what’s that obvious reason?

Use your words. Elaborate. Explain where we’re going wrong. Who the Scum are.

[VFP]

@vfp what is the partner equity you see between myself and anya? or are you going based off of individual reads on each of us?

Anya is obvious scum.
Your claim feels out of place and looks to be preventing an Anya lim or a decent wagon growing.

Out of all of the claims I think yours is the worst with results.
Plus the fact I said earlier that your posting was not town mind with a PR gun.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Use your words. Elaborate. Explain where we’re going wrong. Who the Scum are.

I did explain in a very clear manner

i don't know who the scum are

i said i needed time to think about the mech

[Andresvmb]

I did explain in a very clear manner

i don't know who the scum are

i said i needed time to think about the mech

So you know nothing. So outside of you just plainly defending yourself, how am I bad?

[InsidiousLemons]

never wavered from my townread for long and never advocated an andante elim

This is clearly a lie I don’t care what you say.

Like never advocating for an Andante execution is just slimy wording. It’s not taking any ownership over your actual words. You clearly implied they could be Scum, questioned how some of their posts could ever be made from a Town mindset, but yeah maybe you never voted there so you never strictly advocated for their execution. Like give me a break.

no, i'm pretty sure i did vote there. i'm referring to the fact that i never got a wagon going on them and never said they were my preferred elim for the day, which in my mind are things generally associated with a "push" rather than with "pressure". if i'm misinterpreting feel free to tell me so but i genuinely don't feel i ever put them in a dangerous position or attempted to do so. the one time i got some votes on them they noped out of the thread for like, an entire day. i think that's a valid reason to keep the pressure on, no?

@vfp what is the partner equity you see between myself and anya? or are you going based off of individual reads on each of us?

Anya is obvious scum.
Your claim feels out of place and looks to be preventing an Anya lim or a decent wagon growing.

Out of all of the claims I think yours is the worst with results.
Plus the fact I said earlier that your posting was not town mind with a PR gun.

you can keep arguing this point and i'll keep telling you that yeah, pooky was a suboptimal choice and that yeah, i was trying to keep a low profile. was it the best play to save my claim for today? i think so, but if i'm wrong it may be because i am refamiliarizing myself with this game for the first time since middle school lol

[InsidiousLemons]

not gonna fall back on the "i'm rusty" defense but please understand there is a difference between missing connections/making suboptimal plays and playing from a scum mindset

[InsidiousLemons]

this is confirmed wrong because the number of guns in this solve is wrong

koba vig asteria neapo = 2 guns

anya/lemons = 2 guns

our dead informed gunsmith = 1 gun

btw our dead informed gunsmith said there were 4 guns

That's true actually.
So Roleblocker Traitor and Doc Anya?

are you seriously telling me you think it's more likely there's a dual roleblocker/traitor than that Dk is just. y'know. lying about getting roleblocked and has somehow had it work out for them for 2 consecutive days

[VFP]

you can keep arguing this point and i'll keep telling you that yeah, pooky was a suboptimal choice and that yeah, i was trying to keep a low profile. was it the best play to save my claim for today? i think so, but if i'm wrong it may be because i am refamiliarizing myself with this game for the first time since middle school lol

I don't believe you though?
I'm not sure what you wanted there? You asked me the question and I answered.
However, to you me and Asteria should be scum, so why does it matter here if I believe you?

[Andresvmb]

You’ve also used the “Scum slip” attack twice now. Once on Andante, and now on Asteria.

Look, it’s time to call bullshit. I will sheep VFP and execute amongst {Anya, Insidious}.

[Andresvmb]

However, to you me and Asteria should be scum, so why does it matter here if I believe you?

Asteria could have theoretically gotten lucky about you being Vanilla Town. Just a thought.

[Andresvmb]

I need to work. I’ll be back in some hours. Have fun in the mean time.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So you know nothing. So outside of you just plainly defending yourself, how am I bad?

i said your solve makes no sense cuz i wouldve just hammered koba

[Andresvmb]

So you know nothing. So outside of you just plainly defending yourself, how am I bad?

i said your solve makes no sense cuz i wouldve just hammered koba

In ELo maybe. Don’t you want to make sure you don’t look suspicious as hell otherwise? Like what?

[VFP]

are you seriously telling me you think it's more likely there's a dual roleblocker/traitor than that Dk is just. y'know. lying about getting roleblocked and has somehow had it work out for them for 2 consecutive days

Yes, I am saying this.
Weak vig fits more than N2 Rolecop.

Neo / GS / Rolecop
vs
Mafia doc / Traitor / ???

This is forcing multilple checks on players meaning that town are actually very under powered here.

What makes Dk lying more likely than being RB for 2 nights?

[InsidiousLemons]

this is a lil sad folks. can we not quicklim 11 hours into day 3 pls?

people make scum slips dude. it happens. how is pointing out what you see as a potential slip a bad thing? win/win because if you're right then it's possible the scum will flounder and if you're wrong then someone will usually point out why they think so and a good discussion can come of it. if i was gonna try and get asteria miselimed on a "scumslip" don't you think i would've tried to capitalize off something that was a little more thought out rather than just firing it off halfway through my shift?

p-edit because every-night roleblocker plus doctor is ludicrously scum-sided?

[InsidiousLemons]

However, to you me and Asteria should be scum, so why does it matter here if I believe you?

why so? i retracted my push on asteria after realizing i was being a fucking idiot and needed to slow down and read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

In ELo maybe. Don’t you want to make sure you don’t look suspicious as hell otherwise? Like what?

we're 1 day from elo I would hammer for lulz if I was scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

p-edit because every-night roleblocker plus doctor is ludicrously scum-sided?

us not having a vig at all is also pretty scumsided lol

[VFP]

why so? i retracted my push on asteria after realizing i was being a fucking idiot and needed to slow down and read

Because scum is going to be in the investigation claims, not the vig claim.
Unless informed, it's a bad claim that early.