Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Andresvmb]

is that a scumclaim?

What are you talking about?

[DkKoba]

maybe it is 3 docs and its anya/andres/(1 of clidd/asteria/lemon)

[DkKoba]

no i dont understand how you pulled this logic out when clearly people were waiting on a claim

[Andresvmb]

Sure.

[DkKoba]

lmao you know its bunk dont you.

[Andresvmb]

My point is fairly obvious - how do you survive that end of day as Town? Yes, I have seen Scum force a wagon to move from one Town to the next to get all kinds of funny outcomes the next day, but that had already happened. Dragons had already been run up to E-1. Why not just push you through there? Particularly with the funny way you went about claiming?

[DkKoba]

you know i dont like to claim

[Andresvmb]

you know i dont like to claim

So? There was a wagon composed of 3 Confirmed Town and two slots checked for Vanilla Town in some fashion (or without a gun) sitting on you. How do you not just die there?

[DkKoba]

how do you explain tracker claim dying first?

[Andresvmb]

There’s clearly Scum with TMI or real Town checks on Pooky / VFP. Agree? So that wagon is almost entirely wholesome. And you escape execution and there’s a shopping of alternatives happening by all of the gun claims. C’mon now.

[DkKoba]

thats why asteria has to be scum here

[Andresvmb]

I really hope you're a town.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

By seeing

osuka

vs

VFP

interaction, I'm not sure if they are TvT.

VFP

is still in my sus-list because of their development arroun the

Save The Dragons

wagon (refer: 1838). I'm not liking

osuka

's confbiasing with townreading

Andresvmb

and for that scumreading

Asteria

. But I don't want to touch these slots today. I'll choose from these people in this order today:

PookyTheMagicalBear

>

VFP

>

Anya

>

T3

, which also seems not possible for

PookyTheMagicalBear

and

T3

. Left:

VFP

>

Anya

.

VOTE: VFP

I don't want to touch

Green Crayons

only because he is in my null-list, and I have scummier options. It's getting confusing.

Friendly reminder Crayons is E-2 and he feels like scum folding under pressure to me

I disagree. This isn't the right elim today. They were clearly unable to keep up and especially since we'll be getting a replacement soon to hopefully read better.

And for Insidious, some distancing first:

i know. i moreso meant for voting pattern analysis purposes. we let him play too hands-off, though i recognize that was due to personal life circumstances to some extent. a shame he had to replace out. it will take some convincing from the replacement for me to think the slot is town, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like there will be much time for that conversation.

And then this:

dude honestly if everyone else wants to do rmh i guess i could but i still maintain that execing a claimed tracker d1 is stupid

agree with this sentiment

All of this after GC is driven to E-1. Scum is either defending your slot, or distancing and looking for an alternative. This much is evident to me.

[DkKoba]

scum are not going to believe town!you is going to quickhammer.

hell I wouldn't expect town!you to quickhammer.

the fact you say you would there is concerning.

fact is, scum want to be off a wagon like that where its easy pickings where theres already a lot of town on the wagon.

[Andresvmb]

Like you’re telling me all of the gun claims alive refused to execute you or decided not to vote you when you were Town and almost exclusively wagoned by other Town? Particularly after there was massive overlap with a Dragons wagon? C’mon now I’m not stupid there’s something fishy here.

[DkKoba]

I know the sentiment, I try to be off as many town wagons as I can be as scum

[Andresvmb]

All of this after GC is driven to E-1.

Correction: E-2.

[DkKoba]

Like you’re telling me all of the gun claims alive refused to execute you or decided not to vote you when you were Town and almost exclusively wagoned by other Town? Particularly after there was massive overlap with a Dragons wagon? C’mon now I’m not stupid there’s something fishy here.

the wagon. literally. dissipated. right. after. I. claimed.

[Andresvmb]

I know the sentiment, I try to be off as many town wagons as I can be as scum

The point is 2 Scum at that stage at the very least were in fact off. Only one has to vote you and you’re almost surely doomed. And if Dragons is flipped after being almost exclusively wagoned by Town D1, the overlap would have caused massive confusion. But instead, you’re saved, a wagon is started on VFP that then moves onto Dragons and Dragons dies. And you’re telling me I’m supposed to believe you’re the Towniest of the claims?

[DkKoba]

vote count 1.27

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-04-21 10:15:00).

execution

Green Crayons [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, VFP, Robert M Hunter, Andante, T3

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

InsidiousLemons, osuka

Asteria [1]:

Anya

Andresvmb [1]:

Save The Dragons

Save The Dragons [1]:

Andresvmb

VFP [1]:

Salsabil Faria

not voting [2]:

Green Crayons, Asteria

mod notes

~ insidiouslemons v/la most of today and on the 21st

flavour

DkKoba replaces Green Crayons. deadline is in 36 hours.

vc in like... 10 minutes. i need a coffee.

lemons is v/la during this time btw

[DkKoba]

I know the sentiment, I try to be off as many town wagons as I can be as scum

The point is 2 Scum at that stage at the very least were in fact off. Only one has to vote you and you’re almost surely doomed. And if Dragons is flipped after being almost exclusively wagoned by Town D1, the overlap would have caused massive confusion. But instead, you’re saved, a wagon is started on VFP that then moves onto Dragons and Dragons dies. And you’re telling me I’m supposed to believe you’re the Towniest of the claims?

yes???

[Andresvmb]

Like you’re telling me all of the gun claims alive refused to execute you or decided not to vote you when you were Town and almost exclusively wagoned by other Town? Particularly after there was massive overlap with a Dragons wagon? C’mon now I’m not stupid there’s something fishy here.

the wagon. literally. dissipated. right. after. I. claimed.

This all happened with Crayons in the game. This has nothing to do with you. Your prior slot would have been pushed closer to the brink. That’s what I’m saying.

[Andresvmb]

vote count 1.27

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-04-21 10:15:00).

execution

Green Crayons [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, VFP, Robert M Hunter, Andante, T3

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

InsidiousLemons, osuka

Asteria [1]:

Anya

Andresvmb [1]:

Save The Dragons

Save The Dragons [1]:

Andresvmb

VFP [1]:

Salsabil Faria

not voting [2]:

Green Crayons, Asteria

mod notes

~ insidiouslemons v/la most of today and on the 21st

flavour

DkKoba replaces Green Crayons. deadline is in 36 hours.

vc in like... 10 minutes. i need a coffee.

lemons is v/la during this time btw

They posted. I just quoted them.

[clidd]

Is a solve with Lemons + Asteria + Osuka possible?

[clidd]

Because that's what I'm thinking by play.

[Andresvmb]

what if i claim gunsmith

what the actual fuck? are we really just going to let this slide?

and the point about GC replacing sitewide is a bald-faced lie and you clearly know it. all it takes is a cursory glance at his post history.

i know what i've said about not wanting to elim claimed PRs D1 but this is fucking unbelievable.

i've been on the fence about STD -- posts like 1650 feel like AtE more than genuine input, and their defense of their reactionary voting by pointing out that they hadn't voted me or VFP (?) is a very weak one. but they still don't feel like the best D1 exec to me, and this flash wagon on them reeks of scum opportunism.

VOTE: DkKoba

And after some votes move away from Koba, we get this meaningless vote from Insidious.

Look we should really find out what the hell happened there at the end of D1. That’s my take.