Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

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Vote Count 2-8

Not_Mafia

(4): Disaster Cartel, SirCakez, Momrangal, Iverson

The Bulge

(2): Venus Fly Trap, notscience

Not Voting

(4): The Bulge, Infinity 324, Not_Mafia, Kismet

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Deadline: May 11, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-05-10 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Kismet]

i mean a good portion of players are never going to be out of their whatever-range, and outside of noddy i have no ability to read anyone in this game like such.

[Infinity 324]

Meh that's kinda how I read people

[Infinity 324]

I hate getting into the WIFOM game of "would player x do this as scum" (rather than "could") because scum motivations are complicated and we have a very incomplete picture of the game as well as how different people like to play scum

[Infinity 324]

one is scummy by posting and PoE and one is only scummy by PoE? I don't get what's so difficult to understand here

Ydrasse I'd like to know your thoughts on this (referring to me voting bulge over NM)

[notscience]

I am defending him despite no real townread on him.

That typically means he's scum. I don't think I'd feel guilty about it otherwise.

[Infinity 324]

Who bulge?

[notscience]

Yeah, I was answering Bork's question.

[Infinity 324]

Whatever I wanna vote with my TRs

VOTE: bulge

[Kismet]

yo that's L-1

[Kismet]

wait i'm stupid nm

[Infinity 324]

If I sheep notsci who's town cause I'm sheeping bork and so on ad infinitum I think it's logically impossible for my reads to be wrong

[Kismet]

if there's one thing i think i am sheepable on this game it is that noddy is town, yes.

[Kismet]

this is the weirdest "counterwagon" situation i've ever seen in that:

1) all the people voting bulge right now have voted not_mafia earlier in the same gameday despite nothing really happening
2) i have all of those people at least north of null

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH THIS INFO

[Kismet]

ok i lied i don't think VFT voted NM

[Venus Fly Trap]

Are we speaking again yet?

I’m really asking, this feels like maybe it comes off more combative than it was intended

i.. guess? I'm still upset. and I feel like you have a tendency to get toxic and I'm just not in a space to deal with that. if you think we can engage without ending in screaming that's fine, but I'm going to nope out pretty quickly if it veers anywhere in that direction

[Venus Fly Trap]

sorry guys I'm super behind, trying to catch up ._.

- lilith

[Venus Fly Trap]

Mara's nacho stance was she was trying to argue against his wagon without ever calling him town

i think she implied she thought he was town with calling the attach on nacho a chainsaw, imo.

it was all implication, we literally had that same issue from when she first replaced in, its really weird she was so vague around the main wagon of the day without really ever doing a town case?

I'm trying to decide if I think scum was all trying to push against it to ride the towncred.

ninja-
I mean yeah, I just think for someone so adamant nacho was town she did fuckall to stop the wagon (granted she is going to blame me and I do agree I am at least part to blame) but like even peta did more lol

I kinda wanna kill bulge tbh the more i think about stuff

her entire scumpool and her stance on nacho wasn't based on like, anything except wagon movement.

@notsci why do you think mara saying she wanted a no-elim was towny?

[notscience]

That's the only thing stopping me from voting there

It was all "This wagon is weird its bad" and not "hes town wtf"

[Venus Fly Trap]

I can't find it now but someone said that going against the grain might actually be scum-indicative in this setup and I think I agree? either scum are not in the townbloc and have to break it up somehow, or they are in the townbloc and have to make it seem like they're not so they have to pretend to try to break it up.

@kismet can you talk to me about why you think DC is town?

pedit: yeah I mean - I thought mena's reactions to me were bad but I guess at least there was a basis for him townreading nacho that I could understand

- lilith

[Iverson]

IDK if I'd say you're being hard on me. You haven't asked me anything and I thought the paranoid post was a locktownread and I found it

offensive [
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My energy has definitely petered out which means I probably will have to read. C'est la vie.

Still don't think we should be eliminating anyone other than NM.

[notscience]

That was bulge lmao

[Venus Fly Trap]

I don't think we'd mind voting NM in a vacuum but I don't feel great about the wagon rn

- lilith

[Iverson]

(To Kismet) Like not townreading me on your own time is okay but if you're asking me zero and interfering with me zero then uhhhh

[Kismet]

Like not townreading me on your own time is okay but if you're asking me zero and interfering with me zero then uhhhh

don't feel like i've really felt the need to prompt you for anything throughout your catchup phase, or at least have been comfortable w/ your ability to generate content w/o me doing it

what makes think n_m is considerably more likely to flip scum than bulge right now? cause I don't feel like I have anywhere near a good feeling about that conundrum