Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[Etine]

Cabd [9] - deep-city-lights, Nero Cain, Rathe, Save The Dragons, samantha97, Anastasia, Etine, Vasex, NDMath

Rathe, NDMath, sam?, Nero Cain. Not all scum probably!

I made a kneejerk unvote and decision but yeesh I looked at Cabd's reads and I was just in so much disagreement I couldn't possibly think he made them as town.

[WindowsXP]

i dont think its towny that etine cant even give a list of people on request because it shows they cannot remember the people they are fake pushing.

[Etine]

etine would you say you have success in accuracy in mafia games when you are town?

What does this matter? You're weird.

[WindowsXP]

im also actually somewhat decent at this game and while my d1 accuracy can be way off, I know how to force people into positions where the game can be solved eventually.

[WindowsXP]

im used to noobs scumreading my playstyle.

[WindowsXP]

as well as scum noobs thinking im some easy push to discred

[Etine]

I'm not afraid to change my mind and openly say it I think if people were more honest and stop trying to play so much like a perfect townie it would make the game more organic

[WindowsXP]

I think XP is Brownie Townie

Less brownie townie for that XP but I'll just assume you're a bit eccentric!?

what happened between here and when you scumread me btw?

[Etine]

The game changed?

[WindowsXP]

I was playing passive until I saw something that annoyed me(you) and wanted to push on it and iterrogate. your refusal to cooperate is anti-town because these are questions that a townie should be answering to better help town overall even if you are town and think I am scum, having an open mind and giving town in general the info is better than shutting up.

[WindowsXP]

OK but how did it change?

[Etine]

Well go cool off if you're town because being agitated is a bad state of mind that I'm not going to entertain for the betterment of you and me.

[WindowsXP]

ok u know what if both cops are on Etine that would prob be most useful this kid is like actually reaching unreadable status idk if they are actually like this stubbornly uncooperative as town

[WindowsXP]

Well go cool off if you're town because being agitated is a bad state of mind that I'm not going to entertain for the betterment of you and me.

are you even reading anything I'm saying?

[WindowsXP]

i just wanna policy etine at this point they're an active detriment to this town

[Save The Dragons]

tvt

[WindowsXP]

dont care they're useless to town here

[WindowsXP]

"this person disagrees with me so theyre probably scum"

is like a terrible way to read people

as well as making very strong preflip associatives.

on top of which they are reading me for my playstyle rather than what I have done and refuse to even explain anything.

[WindowsXP]

its the most infuriating type of playstyle and i can't imagine how many games they must have had where their reads were horribly wrong using this style of reading and still have refused to learn anything.

[WindowsXP]

in fact i wish i was ignorant enough to like scumread it still 100% because now they're a coinflip read because of just how easy it is for one to fake this kind of annoying shit as scum

[Marky Mark]

This is repeated shades of Etines '4 SRs' very early D1.

[Marky Mark]

Which was, by their own admission, them making an exaggerated statement on the gamestate and then subsequently scrambling to justify their own statement retrospectively

[Marky Mark]

I would be all about SRing Etine if it wasn't for the fact that they townflailed so hard around about the time of their claim. They have definitely stepped down a notch in my list tho

[WindowsXP]

like this gives me hella Marquis vibes when i played with marquis and i read their old games and i saw this kind of playstyle for a game i was in with them, where they ended up being scum and i only townread them because i thought they were just playing their town meta which was .. yeah. (https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=975) game for reference

[WindowsXP]

btw protip: if you are getting frustrated at being asked at people asking simple questions about your reads, chances are you should actually dive deeper in the reason your reads are the way they are and that maybe there's some reason they are wrong.