Newbie 2062: The Hubble Telescope - End!

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Vote Count 1-8

Hubble has no thrusters. To change angles, it uses Newton’s third law by spinning its reaction wheels in the opposite direction. It turns at about the speed of a minute hand on a clock, taking 15 minutes to turn 90 degrees.

Andante

(2): RationalMadman, T3

orctin

(2): Clasko, JacksonVirgo

RationalMadman

(2): Rathe, Andante

Ivyeo

(1): Demainer

Not Voting

(2): orctin, Ivyeo

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: May 8, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-05-07 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[RationalMadman]

So either T3 and me are both scum or both masons? Ever consider I didn't buddy him, he buddied me?

Town:RM
Lean town: Rathe, Ivy
Null: Clasko
Lean scum: orctin, Andante
Scum: Dem

So basically anyone with Rathe is town - anyone who questions him is scum

Only scum read in absolutes on Day 1 with no info there

If they are masons then at this point they might as well say so cause by what being said scum already know - if not then it's a sidetrack arguement to sow doubt among town

[RationalMadman]

Like, #96 could be a genuine misread or other misunderstanding of Rathe’s arguments, but it also could just be a scum intentionally misinterpreting things.

What did I misunderstand about Rathe's arguments when it was Orctin I was replying to? with that question?

The first part replied to Rathe, not the ending.

[RationalMadman]

ACTUALLY NONE OF MY REPLY REPLIED TO RATHE?

[RationalMadman]

I am so confused, I replied to Rathe before and later than that, how was I replying to Rathe in 96? It was Orctin's post.

[RationalMadman]

If you practise in tryhard games, you actually can become worse not better because good players don't consistently leak tells or react to your reads the same way, so that's also why I quit 'tryhard mafia' for a long time.

It gets frustrating and unrewarding. However, I've got a taste for it on another forum when a game turned up and want to play it regularly now.

[RationalMadman]

I don't think you people realise that sometimes saying things to see reaction to those things gets more done than saying nothing at all. Not every post has to make perfect sense and get you townread, at least that's not how I see it.

[JacksonVirgo]

Could you throw me some examples

I'll quote later if need be but basically, Andante's reads follow this pattern:

Those that scumread her are scum.

OMGUS is not always a scum trait, it can be but it's not the rule.

Those that townread those that scumread her lean scum or are unreadable.

I do not recall this being the case, back this up with quotes if you can

Those that lurk are scum.

Same as #2

Those that go gentle on her despite contributing are town.

Same as #3

I have found that this adds up to mean she is either scum or is detrimental to Town if she is Town. It's not just who, it's the why. The actual reasoning behind her reads is always reading as 'let me say something to justify it' not ever wow, Andante has properly analysed this player and makes a decent point.

For instance, when I asked her what kind of meta read led her to scumread T3 she gets furious at me and tells me to reread his games. Then, says nothing more.

When she scumreads Clasko, she lists the quotes, says some generic reason for it being scummy and doesn't even remotely justify it, Clasko could easily be her partner that she tried to soft-bus (bussing where you intend to ubvote them but just in case, your vote makes you look towny later). Orctin coukd also be her partner, both have a very strange set of interactions where Orctin and Andante are two of the most active players and it's a cutthroat atmosphere yet neither has attacked the other at all, in fact Andante did quite Orctin's read on her and soecified how ridiculous it was which Orctin ignored and Andante later tells me ahe has absolutely no read on him (she should scumread him).

I can see why you think that this makes them scum but I heavily disagree. In previous games they acted very much on emotion and got extremely pissed off at people pushing them, calling them scum in return.

[JacksonVirgo]

Btw Andante JV is a viable team.

An undertoned agenda that could be interpreted in JacksonVorgo's decebt posts are to attacke and anyone they feel is viable to take the heat off of Andante. I did notice this but I did and do currently Town read it. I do notice it however, I'd like to see JV and Andante grill one another a little.

Did you read that game I linked you, they're acting

insanely

like that game and I am not wanting to eliminate that on day 1. You're also throwing me in there simply because your reads do not align with my own, and that's weak reasonings. Also you expect me to throw my reads away to grill a town-read of mine? Serious?

[Ivyeo]

ACTUALLY NONE OF MY REPLY REPLIED TO RATHE?

I meant T3 but was very tired, appologies.
Just felt kinda manipulative to phrase his reads like that

[T3]

Btw Andante JV is a viable team.

An undertoned agenda that could be interpreted in JacksonVorgo's decebt posts are to attacke and anyone they feel is viable to take the heat off of Andante. I did notice this but I did and do currently Town read it. I do notice it however, I'd like to see JV and Andante grill one another a little.

Did you read that game I linked you, they're acting

insanely

like that game and I am not wanting to eliminate that on day 1. You're also throwing me in there simply because your reads do not align with my own, and that's weak reasonings. Also you expect me to throw my reads away to grill a town-read of mine? Serious?

Grilling doesn't hurt.

[RationalMadman]

You're also throwing me in there simply because your reads do not align with my own, and that's weak reasonings. Also you expect me to throw my reads away to grill a town-read of mine? Serious?

Grilling doesn't hurt.

100%, his reaction is so hilarious because his entire post did what I said he's been doing to hide his agenda, now he makes it crystal-clear blatant.

He only has to click ISO on Andante and read any read at all that she's revealed vs what she's avoided.

She refuses to out reads on people who don't townread someone scumreading her, she scumreads anyone who scumreads her and is hostile to anyone who townreads them. This is the entire basis on which she has developed any reads this game.

If Andante plays terrible as town consistently, it is up to her to improve not up to me to factor in unless it is proven she plays superior and justified read superior to this as Scum.

[RationalMadman]

their reaction* sorry for using 'he' pronoun.

[RationalMadman]

Btw Andante JV is a viable team.

An undertoned agenda that could be interpreted in JacksonVorgo's decebt posts are to attacke and anyone they feel is viable to take the heat off of Andante. I did notice this but I did and do currently Town read it. I do notice it however, I'd like to see JV and Andante grill one another a little.

Did you read that game I linked you, they're acting

insanely

like that game and I am not wanting to eliminate that on day 1. You're also throwing me in there simply because your reads do not align with my own, and that's weak reasonings. Also you expect me to throw my reads away to grill a town-read of mine? Serious?

I don't really see how that proves she plays better as Scum. I have given her several opportunities and she has only tried to dodge me at first by focusing on T3 after doing the same thing by focusing on Clasko before him. Then she moved onto me now out of nowhere.

[RationalMadman]

meant T3 but was very tired, appologies.
Just felt kinda manipulative to phrase his reads like that

No. Orctin is the one who did that, not me.

[RationalMadman]

you don't feel clasko should have a single line of substance thus far?

i dont think T3 and rational r partners cuz they r linked

ok, thanks for repeating what I've been saying...

thoughts on clasco?

Could you throw me some examples

I'll quote later if need be but basically, Andante's reads follow this pattern:

Those that scumread her are scum.

OMGUS is not always a scum trait, it can be but it's not the rule.

Those that townread those that scumread her lean scum or are unreadable.

I do not recall this being the case, back this up with quotes if you can

Those that lurk are scum.

Same as #2

Those that go gentle on her despite contributing are town.

Same as #3

I have found that this adds up to mean she is either scum or is detrimental to Town if she is Town. It's not just who, it's the why. The actual reasoning behind her reads is always reading as 'let me say something to justify it' not ever wow, Andante has properly analysed this player and makes a decent point.

For instance, when I asked her what kind of meta read led her to scumread T3 she gets furious at me and tells me to reread his games. Then, says nothing more.

When she scumreads Clasko, she lists the quotes, says some generic reason for it being scummy and doesn't even remotely justify it, Clasko could easily be her partner that she tried to soft-bus (bussing where you intend to ubvote them but just in case, your vote makes you look towny later). Orctin coukd also be her partner, both have a very strange set of interactions where Orctin and Andante are two of the most active players and it's a cutthroat atmosphere yet neither has attacked the other at all, in fact Andante did quite Orctin's read on her and soecified how ridiculous it was which Orctin ignored and Andante later tells me ahe has absolutely no read on him (she should scumread him).

I can see why you think that this makes them scum but I heavily disagree. In previous games they acted very much on emotion and got extremely pissed off at people pushing them, calling them scum in return.

the 'gentle' proves itself true, for instance Rathe voted me and Andante instantly was gentle with Rathe, Clasko outed a towny vibe-read on me in one of his first posts, then lurked, Andante instantly justifies a scumread based on that then out of nowhere switches to T3 because he sticks to townreading me and scumreading Andante.

Why are you against grilling your townread? That is pretty ridiculous, no offence. How do you make sure your townread is actually town without said part of the determining?

Andante's ISO posts make everything I am saying crystal clear, do you expect me to quote her entire posting history because 90% are gonna need to be used to prove myself correct if you want every applicable quote.

[RationalMadman]

Andante never grills Rathe past that point, keeps being passive with anyone who scumreads those that scumread Andante herself.

[RationalMadman]

Same behaviour with Orctin, asks one question then very gentle.

[RationalMadman]

Meaning Andante to Orctin ^

[Andante]

whatever, I'm claiming, I'm the doctor, I'm literally dead tonight, so go find scum. thanks. I'm actually getting annoyed by the nonstop pushing on me from you

[Rathe]

sheesh y would u claim

[Rathe]

VOTE: andante

[JacksonVirgo]

Fuck sake.

[Andante]

i mean, all this guy wants to do is keep screaming how I’m flipping scum, so whatever, i’ll just claim

now rathe instantly voting a doc claim is scummy as fuck

[JacksonVirgo]

Rathe are you counterclaiming or are you scum