Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[DrippingGoofball]

Dcl is a blocker

REJECTED

[samantha97]

what is a blocker

[Vasex]

someone who can block smb's ability or shot

[DrippingGoofball]

what is a blocker

Some made up reason not to vote for deep-city-lights.

[samantha97]

wow I really didn't connect the dots to roleblocker somehow

[Vasex]

Dcl is just tired

[Anya]

vasex etine windows(?????) T4 Cabd is my new city list

my most wanted are kitty anastasia

and the bandit stragglers are monkeyman Nero Dunnstral

[Anya]

marking marks is a city as well

[Dunnstral]

Dcl is a blocker

someone who can block smb's ability or shot

And you know this how?

[Dunnstral]

Driving home probably for the best that the thread got locked and I walked away because I was about to say some very spite.

But apparently we're so incompetent we can't even kill me correctly which is a hoot. I'm sure there's tons of reactions to me rage quitting and they may or may not end up with me dying for real today but whatever the case may be I will read that stuff when I get home I'm still alive by then have a good weekend everyone safe travels

[Anastasia]

This is me still being at work and also not self-hammering.

do you self hammer as scum?

In this scenario I certainly would. I'm a done deal, and steal something like 7 or 8 days of IRL time from town's day one? Easy decision.

Do you have examples of you self-hammering on D1 as scum?

I'm fairly sure this is not a done deal.

[Vasex]

Enchant-Kitty-Anastasia
All of them can be together, all of them had ugly reasons to vote cabd (if cabd town), every of them has many chances to be a scum
Then Andre and XP/STD/Monkey for example
Dcl?

[Anastasia]

Cool, I was VT, washing my hands of the game.

Good luck to those who give a shit.

P-edit, you can't unvote after hammer lol.

Off to go back to coding then.

It's funny you accuse us of "not giving a shit" when your top reason for voting someone out is a cold-meta read that makes no sense.

If anyone is not putting their effort into this game and trying hard to win for the town here between me and you, it's you.

[Vasex]

Dcl is a blocker

someone who can block smb's ability or shot

And you know this how?

Pro reading

[Anastasia]

I remain unconvinced by Cabd's "post death" performance.

I have enough respect for Cabd's play to believe he would not lose track of the vote count.

If he's truly dialed it in and decided to not even care about how many votes he is on, then he is a hypocrite for accusing us of not caring.

The only way I will relent today is if Cabd puts together a coherent case on someone being scum that is not some meta nonsense.

I know for a fact his case on me is not only incorrect but lazy and unworthy of a player of his stature.

[Dunnstral]

Dcl is a blocker

someone who can block smb's ability or shot

And you know this how?

Pro reading

I don't see anything that can be taken as a claim in their iso?

[Vasex]

Dcl is a blocker

someone who can block smb's ability or shot

And you know this how?

Pro reading

I don't see anything that can be taken as a claim in their iso?

These is hidden between words

[Vasex]

You know what, Anastasia...

[Vasex]

Good night.

[Save The Dragons]

I know a few of you and a few of you know me but the rest of you are in for either a treat or absolute hell or both at the same time if you swing that way.

I've been banging on the glass doors yelling at bulge to let me in and then of course he opens the thread when I'm asleep on a work night.

Cabd was super excited at the beginning of the game. Why? To be vanilla townie in a game he doesn't know anyone in?

KittyTacky pinging me as newbie scum here. Not sure if the current votes are RVS but VOTE: KittyTacky

Congrats on making a non random vote! Care to share with the class your reasoning? I don't think scum will be handing us a silver platter wrong thread post this game, so you'll have to try harder on this one if town~

I don't know if this is Cabd-like but the energy here is red. Believe me or not.

Because I prefer to make big moves early to generate data. It's practically rinse and repeat these days.

what big moves has he made this game?

crap i though that two people townread me but it was just an altslip

Don't worry my townreads are on sale to the highest bidder.


Whatcha got?

red energy

One note about Marky Mark's Claim....

Four slots had not yet posted when this miller claim went down:

Andresvmb
Dunnstral
Anya
Rathe

If this were a "Mafia fakeclaiming miller" scenario, I am willing to bet that Marky Mark would have waited until the town in this list had posted to ensure there was not an ACTUAL miller claim, or Marky Marky is scum with exactly this list, which, uh... yeah probably not. In a mini normal or micro game, fake miller claims are less likely to be CC'd. But this is a 21 player normal. Lots of potential roles in the game that could sniff out fakery this early.

I'm good w/ Marky for now, even independently of townreading the content of his posts.

NAI but it looks like it is. it looks like good analysis but if cabd is mafia he knows marky's claim is legit so it's a safe thing to say for some towncred. Plus:

But regardless, my point stands, and I doubt scum even weighs that, they just go with "only fake claim miller if we're near last to post" regardless.

I mean he kind of did wait until last anyway

And if by some notion Marky was ever to flip scum those four should be looked at heavily.

hmm

Also self meta wifom but there's no way scum-me wasn't lurking like fuck and woulda lolhammered the wagon when it was at L-1 to trade one for one. Unless of course you were to think I'm scum WITH kitty?

I don't buy this and your scum team could have talked you out of it

Weird angle here man.

attempt to discredit. scummy. unless people really think gutpings lead to (almost) voting someone

I really WANT to vote, HARD.

Especially after I directly asked her to be my bouncing rock this game.

ok but she seems to have gone do you think she wouldn't want to or do you think she just left the site

Mara is much happier and fluffy as town?

i like the read but again she seems to have faded into the ether

Like the one meme where they high-five the drowning dude

lol i missed this the first time

Cabd's reads on town/null are informative if brief. Some of them, like Kerset's "look it up n00bs" and DGB "my head, my heart" ping me and i am trying, TRYING, to separate Cabd!Cabd from scum!Cabd.

Tier Five Reads - "Like the one meme where they high-five the drowning dude"

Anastasia - Marangal (the original owner of the slot via her alt Artemis) and I go extremely way back. As in "Mara was the IC of my first or second newbie game in 2013" back. As in "Literally went to IRL meetups at anime cons" far back. Town-Mara, cognizant of and seeing my "Help I need a friendly face to help me engage into this game" signals being thrown into the ether? She fucking steps up and uses me as her leverage to get both of us back into the game, and HARD. If, for some crazy reason she cannot? She encourages me to keep it up and tries to find that person for me instead. Know what town-mara never fucking does? The crickets form this game.

Dunnstral - Dunn is on this list for similar, but not exactly, the reasons as the above. The last time Dunn and I met in a game, I used town-him as a pivotal part of my strategy for my scum team's perfect win in Tenet. Via a neighborhood where I posted something close to 8 pages of ISO... myself. I would fully expect and actually fully understand Town-Dunn seeing my reach out and being weary of it. Vocally so! I could also see town-dunn shouting from the rooftops "This is how scumcabd gets you OMG!" But instead, we get nothing. To make the ffery sitting over my shoulder watching this thread smile, I'm going to steal her turn of phrase and note that both Dunn and Mara are not fitting their Town Models.

He built a couple reads based on meta, which doesn't seem particularly strong when you account for Artemiana's site-disappearance, Anastasia's content, and Dunnstral's rebuttal. It seems like scum reaching for informative scum reads, trying to avoid the trap Etine fell into when Etine said DCL was scummy.

i dunno, are you making your reads up?

This is about that damn air conditioning joke, isn't it?

Do you enjoy making pointlessly pointed questions that have no real nuance to their answer to everyone? Or just to me?

I don't get the mad seems more calculated than just townie frustration.

Half of my townreads already wrote the "Cabd was very dumb town let's just take the day one mislim as a mistake and move on ignoring him" post in their heads anyways.

ATE

I am at peace that the collective (well, a big part of it anyways) town in this player list doesn't get me.

I'm not scum i'm just misunderstood. i'm not sure i buy it.

This is me still being at work and also not self-hammering.

do you self hammer as scum?

In this scenario I certainly would. I'm a done deal, and steal something like 7 or 8 days of IRL time from town's day one? Easy decision.

meta sucks because of WIFOM all it takes is the scum team egging you on telling you it's okay

[Cabd]

I see your wall, STD.

I am back at a proper keyboard and mouse.

Fuck going back, I'll do it in reverse order, starting with STD since we seem to be mutually online for once.

[Cabd]

I know a few of you and a few of you know me but the rest of you are in for either a treat or absolute hell or both at the same time if you swing that way.

I've been banging on the glass doors yelling at bulge to let me in and then of course he opens the thread when I'm asleep on a work night.

Cabd was super excited at the beginning of the game. Why? To be vanilla townie in a game he doesn't know anyone in?

yeah, actually, I came off of a string of recent games with my group of Cohort and got yelled at a lot for only ever playing with them. being VT is liberating as shit in an mostly unknown player list, no big night play needs. Specifically SKitter30 took me to task for this. I can cite specific posts. I was looking forward to having only a few poeple who knew me here. Namely, Flavor leaf chief among them, so he flaked and I tried to be happy anyways but it didn't last.

KittyTacky pinging me as newbie scum here. Not sure if the current votes are RVS but VOTE: KittyTacky

Congrats on making a non random vote! Care to share with the class your reasoning? I don't think scum will be handing us a silver platter wrong thread post this game, so you'll have to try harder on this one if town~

I don't know if this is Cabd-like but the energy here is red. Believe me or not.

Tildes are my Sarcasm tags. Take that as you will.

Because I prefer to make big moves early to generate data. It's practically rinse and repeat these days.

what big moves has he made this game?

crap i though that two people townread me but it was just an altslip

Don't worry my townreads are on sale to the highest bidder.


Whatcha got?

red energy

One note about Marky Mark's Claim....

Four slots had not yet posted when this miller claim went down:

Andresvmb
Dunnstral
Anya
Rathe

If this were a "Mafia fakeclaiming miller" scenario, I am willing to bet that Marky Mark would have waited until the town in this list had posted to ensure there was not an ACTUAL miller claim, or Marky Marky is scum with exactly this list, which, uh... yeah probably not. In a mini normal or micro game, fake miller claims are less likely to be CC'd. But this is a 21 player normal. Lots of potential roles in the game that could sniff out fakery this early.

I'm good w/ Marky for now, even independently of townreading the content of his posts.

NAI but it looks like it is. it looks like good analysis but if cabd is mafia he knows marky's claim is legit so it's a safe thing to say for some towncred. Plus:

But regardless, my point stands, and I doubt scum even weighs that, they just go with "only fake claim miller if we're near last to post" regardless.

I mean he kind of did wait until last anyway

Except he did it as soon as he repped in, BEFORE the mod even formally announced him. You think he had time to discuss such a plan in a scum PT? Would bet dollars to doughnuts that he didn't, and he doesn't do that without blessings.

And if by some notion Marky was ever to flip scum those four should be looked at heavily.

hmm

Do you disagree?

Also self meta wifom but there's no way scum-me wasn't lurking like fuck and woulda lolhammered the wagon when it was at L-1 to trade one for one. Unless of course you were to think I'm scum WITH kitty?

I don't buy this and your scum team could have talked you out of it

I mean while technically true, generally speaking scumteams don't talk me in and out of things, I talk THEM in and out of things. Now that I see A50 is replaced into the game, ask him what being scum with me in Tenet was like? Or ask The Ceph-Rawr lol we were a fucking hydra playing every single town with puppet strings.

Weird angle here man.

attempt to discredit. scummy. unless people really think gutpings lead to (almost) voting someone

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12206211
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12210949

Bell was scum there btw.

I really WANT to vote, HARD.

Especially after I directly asked her to be my bouncing rock this game.

ok but she seems to have gone do you think she wouldn't want to or do you think she just left the site

Without discussing other ongoing games.... She didn't fucking sitequit lol. I checked. She woulda said something when leaving if she had. This is like nearly decade old IRL meta here.

Mara is much happier and fluffy as town?

i like the read but again she seems to have faded into the ether

Like the one meme where they high-five the drowning dude

lol i missed this the first time

Cabd's reads on town/null are informative if brief. Some of them, like Kerset's "look it up n00bs" and DGB "my head, my heart" ping me and i am trying, TRYING, to separate Cabd!Cabd from scum!Cabd.

If you ever figure this out, bottle it and sell it to fferyllt for an extremely high price~

Tier Five Reads - "Like the one meme where they high-five the drowning dude"

Anastasia - Marangal (the original owner of the slot via her alt Artemis) and I go extremely way back. As in "Mara was the IC of my first or second newbie game in 2013" back. As in "Literally went to IRL meetups at anime cons" far back. Town-Mara, cognizant of and seeing my "Help I need a friendly face to help me engage into this game" signals being thrown into the ether? She fucking steps up and uses me as her leverage to get both of us back into the game, and HARD. If, for some crazy reason she cannot? She encourages me to keep it up and tries to find that person for me instead. Know what town-mara never fucking does? The crickets form this game.

Dunnstral - Dunn is on this list for similar, but not exactly, the reasons as the above. The last time Dunn and I met in a game, I used town-him as a pivotal part of my strategy for my scum team's perfect win in Tenet. Via a neighborhood where I posted something close to 8 pages of ISO... myself. I would fully expect and actually fully understand Town-Dunn seeing my reach out and being weary of it. Vocally so! I could also see town-dunn shouting from the rooftops "This is how scumcabd gets you OMG!" But instead, we get nothing. To make the ffery sitting over my shoulder watching this thread smile, I'm going to steal her turn of phrase and note that both Dunn and Mara are not fitting their Town Models.

He built a couple reads based on meta, which doesn't seem particularly strong when you account for Artemiana's site-disappearance, Anastasia's content, and Dunnstral's rebuttal. It seems like scum reaching for informative scum reads, trying to avoid the trap Etine fell into when Etine said DCL was scummy.

My title is literally because when I'm ever feeling unsure, i revert back to THE BINDER which is a document I keep of people's meta tells that have yet to be burned. And in some cases, that have been burned but are still valid. Example: Mara only ever discusses a certain game form her past as scum because it's too traumatic for town-her to cite. (This is one that was burned many moons ago but she never broke)

If I was a JOAT here with a day suicide bomber, I'd shoot Mara's slot 11 times out of 10.

i dunno, are you making your reads up?

This is about that damn air conditioning joke, isn't it?

Do you enjoy making pointlessly pointed questions that have no real nuance to their answer to everyone? Or just to me?

I don't get the mad seems more calculated than just townie frustration.

Was probably too sharp and I apologize. Reading that on lunch while trying to figure out how to 0-Index the ticket list while also filtering out NOC was chewing my brain up.

Half of my townreads already wrote the "Cabd was very dumb town let's just take the day one mislim as a mistake and move on ignoring him" post in their heads anyways.

ATE

I hate how many people on this site think ATE is inherently scummy. Sometimes one just wants to put their feels out there man. ATE can be towny too, see literally everything that Sakura Hana posted, ever.

I am at peace that the collective (well, a big part of it anyways) town in this player list doesn't get me.

I'm not scum i'm just misunderstood. i'm not sure i buy it.

Free country. Your right to continue being incorrect. My right to hopefully be able to hit you and Ceph over the head with it postgame, assuming my town read of you is correct.

This is me still being at work and also not self-hammering.

do you self hammer as scum?

In this scenario I certainly would. I'm a done deal, and steal something like 7 or 8 days of IRL time from town's day one? Easy decision.

meta sucks because of WIFOM all it takes is the scum team egging you on telling you it's okay

See earlier comment. I wish I could post discord logs because I have an entire speech about this in the Tenet scum discord channel. Day one trading a sunken mafia member to wipe out 7 days of IRL time is almost certainly worth it. Tenet had the fucking treestump mechanic which made things a little more complex, but in a traditional setup, it's fine.

[Cabd]

Actually, wife and daughter are almost home, so more from me after I help get tiny human settled.

Playing mafia when you've got a family and job is harder than when I used to play with no responsibilities, hah.

[Cabd]

I'll be available via phone posting, STD. If you had immediate shorter discussion needs.

[Anastasia]

If I was a JOAT here with a day suicide bomber, I'd shoot Mara's slot 11 times out of 10.

You'd be shooting a townside player 11 times out of 11