Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[Marky Mark]

Andres is also hitting the nail on the head ref T3 and their claim(s).

[Marky Mark]

DGB WAS STRONG TOWN FOR HIM (he repeated that after his townie dragons), NOW HE AGREES WITH XP TO CHECK DGB

This is a reach - T3/Kitty are being leashed so them agreeing to check a slot proposed by other players != them personally SRing that slot

[Marky Mark]

Honestly, I thought Vassex was town af early D1 for the push on Kitty, but they now seem to be spraying from the hip considerably

[Marky Mark]

My vote was on Enchant at that time and "Pocket attempt denied" is a windows quote.
I also noticed Cabd wagon was filled with townreads/townleans for me apart from Etine & dcl, which was a heavy factor.

"Pocket attempt denied" was a general reference to the fact that players questioning ppl townreading them is NAI and scum can pull that too

You are correct that your vote was on Enchant, I was conflating that with your previous post where you voted Samantha.

[Nero Cain]

I'm trying to hurt down google cache or archive.org versions. Looks like my home site nuked their old mafia forums.

???? is this about you being frustrated and self hammering?

[Marky Mark]

@NDMath -> Why vote Andres over Enchant if Enchant is in your top SR tier (the other entry in that tier being Kitty, who has claimed PR)?

[Nero Cain]

There aren’t 2 Cops in the game.

if this was a mini sure but this is a 21 players so more than 1 cop is plenty believable, no?

[Kerset]

but never happened so far

[Nero Cain]

there's never been 2 cops in a game b4? wtf bro

[Nero Cain]

im not voting t3 till unless DGB is flipped or investigated

[Marky Mark]

A quick look at the last 5 large normals finds:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84936 -> 2 trackers
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83940 -> 2 gunsmiths

so clearly duplicate PRs can be a thing, although they weren't cop roles in those cases

[Marky Mark]

I would be less sus of T3 if they had just straight up claimed cop rather than doing it only when their BP claim was falling apart under scrutiny and they were close to being limmed

[Nero Cain]

i mean it could be b/c I've been around longer but multiple cops has been done b4. Andres asking me/us to do busywork is pretty scummy.

[Vasex]

2 cops 10 scums

[Nero Cain]

like my first reaction was that Kerset is blatantly lying but it's a 2013 join date so maybe he could have just never been in a game with multiple cops.

[Nero Cain]

errr 2019

[Kerset]

A quick look at the last 5 large normals finds:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84936 -> 2 trackers
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83940 -> 2 gunsmiths

so clearly duplicate PRs can be a thing, although they weren't cop roles in those cases

Cop is more OP

[Vasex]

A quick look at the last 5 large normals finds:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84936 -> 2 trackers
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83940 -> 2 gunsmiths

are there any exceptions?

[Kerset]

like my first reaction was that Kerset is blatantly lying but it's a 2013 join date so maybe he could have just never been in a game with multiple cops.

Check the archive: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=37208

[Marky Mark]

like my first reaction was that Kerset is blatantly lying but it's a 2013 join date so maybe he could have just never been in a game with multiple cops.

Check the archive: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=37208

Good find - I didn't even know this was a thing

[Marky Mark]

Fun fact - only instance of double cop in the archive was in a fire/ice game where there was a cop that detected each specific mafia faction.

Another fun fact - there were X shot cops in the archives, but no N1/N2 cops

[Marky Mark]

This is all looking less than ideal for T3

[Vasex]

Mafia 2-Shot Cop
Mafia 2-shot Rolecop

yeah...

[Vasex]

Town Two-Shot Cop

[Vasex]

well, it was, though in 2014, but it is possible
scum 2-shot cop is more possible though