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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:29 am

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In post 113, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 112, Almost50 wrote:
In post 13, VFP wrote:VOTE: T3

Every post above me is town.
VOTE: VFP

The quoted post is literally a scum claim. :wink:
NGL.
I didn’t notice that till you pointed it out.
on the other hand, ew @ this

VOTE: professor

still not a fan of Pooky ftr
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:29 am

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In post 123, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 120, Dannflor wrote:Lukewarm, do you have any non-pokemon related thoughts on any players yet?
Yeah. I am actually suspicious of Bingle making the suggestion for the psych to automatically out a guilty result. Because imo, that seems more likely to out the sitter then to out mafia.

I think that they know that too, because they were in the Open Setup review of the game that the mod linked to in the first post, and there they talked about the Psych having "a fake inno and a fake guilty on a questionable reliability investigative."

So from my PoV, Bingle came out with some anti-town advice, and then said for no one to question them
that's... not his suggestion though?
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:31 am

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In post 115, Dannflor wrote:Drapion, I think T3 is town
Why do you think that?
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:37 am

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In post 125, Gypyx wrote:
In post 113, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 112, Almost50 wrote:
In post 13, VFP wrote:VOTE: T3

Every post above me is town.
VOTE: VFP

The quoted post is literally a scum claim. :wink:
NGL.
I didn’t notice that till you pointed it out.
on the other hand, ew @ this

VOTE: professor

still not a fan of Pooky ftr
This is what I’m “ew” on?
I could probably give you like 3 others posts I’ve made that is more “ew” then that one.
Like can you explain?
Feels like your just trying to reach for a reason to vote me.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:38 am

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In post 123, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 120, Dannflor wrote:Lukewarm, do you have any non-pokemon related thoughts on any players yet?
Yeah. I am actually suspicious of Bingle making the suggestion for the psych to automatically out a guilty result. Because imo, that seems more likely to out the sitter then to out mafia.

I think that they know that too, because they were in the Open Setup review of the game that the mod linked to in the first post, and there they talked about the Psych having "a fake inno and a fake guilty on a questionable reliability investigative."

So from my PoV, Bingle came out with some anti-town advice, and then said for no one to question them
Let me give you a quick rundown on how Bingle do.

Bingle will argue the optimal strategy for town as he sees it, regardless of his alignment. Bingle is good at mechanics speak. Bingle is very good at mechanics speak. Bingle is widely regarded as among the best at mechanics on site. Bingle has said, specifically, that there are a bunch of things that are mechanically optimal, and that we should not discuss mechanics speak further for the rest of the day.

Either, Bingle is telling the truth that this is a protown maneuver or Bingle is crippling his ability to lean into mechanics speak, setting himself up to be questioned thoroughly on not D1 (historically the day when Bingle wants to be questioned in order to establish himself), and taking a harsh departure from what is a tried and true strategy Bingle has used as both town and scum for literally years to a pretty good result in a lobby that is at least half full of people who know Bingle pretty well.

Feel free to scumread me for it (I in fact enjoy scumreads, they are delicious) but we are done talking mech for D1.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:40 am

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Hey, everyone.. I have a confession to make: this player list is so awesome I dare not post as much as it would disturb the flow of my own entertainment. I am reading though, so don't think otherwise.

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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:42 am

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In post 114, Almost50 wrote:I am still debating whether to play to the meta some (older) players know, or the one I want to revert to.
Ah, speak of the monkey and he doth appear.

Could you do me a teensy favor and devote investigative energy at the other pirate? I am concerned that he's tailoring his play to appeal to me and I'm unsure how to read into that. Thank you.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:42 am

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In post 130, Almost50 wrote:Hey, everyone.. I have a confession to make: this player list is so awesome I dare not post as much as it would disturb the flow of my own entertainment. I am reading though, so don't think otherwise.
So another words.
You Be Lurkin!
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:46 am

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In post 125, Gypyx wrote:
In post 113, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 112, Almost50 wrote:
In post 13, VFP wrote:VOTE: T3

Every post above me is town.
VOTE: VFP

The quoted post is literally a scum claim. :wink:
NGL.
I didn’t notice that till you pointed it out.
on the other hand, ew @ this

VOTE: professor

still not a fan of Pooky ftr
That is like the third most compelling reason to wagon him! ;)
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:47 am

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In post 117, Lukewarm wrote:I am actually a little confused how the psychologist role helps us in this set up.

If he can get a "can kill" result on the baby sitter, but gets a "not able to kill" result on the cowardly mafia + any mafia that has already committed a kill, then on day 1 wouldn't a "can kill" result be a 50/50 chance at being the babysitter or mafia. And then starting on Day 2, they will basically be getting "is babysitter" and "is not babysitter" results, right?

That makes me question this advice given by Bingle
In post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.

We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out.
psych claims immediately if has guilty
I do have to comment on this though:

@Luke:
REGARDLESS OF HIS ALIGNMENT
; you should always treat Bingle's mech talk as gospel. It is accurate and indeed best play for Town. End of discussion.

Note: The above is not limited to this game. It does apply here but is a general rule of the thumb.

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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:47 am

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In post 128, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 125, Gypyx wrote:
In post 113, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 112, Almost50 wrote:
In post 13, VFP wrote:VOTE: T3

Every post above me is town.
VOTE: VFP

The quoted post is literally a scum claim. :wink:
NGL.
I didn’t notice that till you pointed it out.
on the other hand, ew @ this

VOTE: professor

still not a fan of Pooky ftr
This is what I’m “ew” on?
I could probably give you like 3 others posts I’ve made that is more “ew” then that one.
Like can you explain?
Feels like your just trying to reach for a reason to vote me.
just the way you apparently take this seriously without doing the appropriate actions in that case (a vote)

but hey, what do you think is scummier than that and for what reasons now that you're on the topic?
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:48 am

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In post 111, Menalque wrote:
In post 105, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 100, Menalque wrote:*announcer voice*

And yes, that’s dannflor entering the thread folks, ooh, it’s not off to a good start! How many yikes out of 5 is that judges?

4/5 yikes! Hoo boy, that’s a lot of yikes for dannflor’s entrance!
So your telling me you think this:
In post 83, Dannflor wrote:VOTE: gypx
In post 84, Dannflor wrote:guys gypyx and bingle are scum together
Is more yikes then this:
In post 69, T3 wrote:WTF VOTE: pooky
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Despite the fact that I am townreading Dann, I endorse this gif and it's message.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:50 am

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In post 122, VFP wrote:
In post 112, Almost50 wrote:The quoted post is literally a scum claim.
That's a good point, but the question is, what scum am I?
The "abrasive enough to double down on a scumslip to make it look like
too scummy to be scum
" one is my best guess. :P

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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:56 am

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Town:

Dannflor
T3
PookyTheMagicalBear
Almost50

Needs more content before being arbitrarily shuffled into a pile:

GrandpaMo
ManWithNoName
Pine

Scum:

Lukewarm
VFP
Menalque
ProfessorDrapion
Gypyx

Yes. All nine of those are genuine reads with genuine reasoning. I'm not going to bother explaining most of them at the moment, and they're loosely ordered based on how accurate my gut says they might be.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 9:59 am

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In post 124, Gypyx wrote:
In post 112, Almost50 wrote:
In post 13, VFP wrote:VOTE: T3

Every post above me is town.
VOTE: VFP

The quoted post is literally a scum claim. :wink:
pls tell me you're not serious
I am, actually. How do you know the alignment of a Teddy Bear from a single post with 3 letters: ego?? That's for instance.

Note that this comes from a guy who promotes the theory of "there's almost always -at least- one scum in the first 3 posters in any given game". In fact, gun-to-my-head I'd say one of them IS scum and then VFP was trying to paint his p as a townie. Now another-gun-to-the-other-side-of-my-head and I'd bet on you being the scum of the first 3 posters with this response. (Don't forget to submit my name as the NK if your team decides to NO KILL) :twisted:

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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:03 am

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In post 131, Bingle wrote:Could you do me a teensy favor and devote investigative energy at the other pirate? I am concerned that he's tailoring his play to appeal to me and I'm unsure how to read into that. Thank you.
I take it you're referring to Menalque? I think he's clear.. or at least he appears to be so far.

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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:07 am

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In post 135, Gypyx wrote:
In post 128, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 125, Gypyx wrote:
In post 113, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 112, Almost50 wrote:
In post 13, VFP wrote:VOTE: T3

Every post above me is town.
VOTE: VFP

The quoted post is literally a scum claim. :wink:
NGL.
I didn’t notice that till you pointed it out.
on the other hand, ew @ this

VOTE: professor

still not a fan of Pooky ftr
This is what I’m “ew” on?
I could probably give you like 3 others posts I’ve made that is more “ew” then that one.
Like can you explain?
Feels like your just trying to reach for a reason to vote me.
just the way you apparently take this seriously without doing the appropriate actions in that case (a vote)

but hey, what do you think is scummier than that and for what reasons now that you're on the topic?
I said I didn’t notice it to be consider that way. If you read my ISO you will know I GT’ed VFP.
Unless your referring to the after when you placed your vote, well if you go look at the thread I’m already voting you.
For your last part, if you read my ISO you can find allot better stuff to case me on.
I’m saying I feel like you just grab a random post of mine to vote me on.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:08 am

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In post 132, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 130, Almost50 wrote:Hey, everyone.. I have a confession to make: this player list is so awesome I dare not post as much as it would disturb the flow of my own entertainment. I am reading though, so don't think otherwise.
So another words.
You Be Lurkin!
As my good pal Colin Hay once said: Sometimes I dunno.. which way tooooo goooooooooo

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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:08 am

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In post 138, Bingle wrote:Town:

Dannflor
T3
PookyTheMagicalBear
Almost50

Needs more content before being arbitrarily shuffled into a pile:

GrandpaMo
ManWithNoName
Pine

Scum:

Lukewarm
VFP
Menalque
ProfessorDrapion
Gypyx

Yes. All nine of those are genuine reads with genuine reasoning. I'm not going to bother explaining most of them at the moment, and they're loosely ordered based on how accurate my gut says they might be.
Explain your VFP read.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:09 am

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In post 140, Almost50 wrote:
In post 131, Bingle wrote:Could you do me a teensy favor and devote investigative energy at the other pirate? I am concerned that he's tailoring his play to appeal to me and I'm unsure how to read into that. Thank you.
I take it you're referring to Menalque? I think he's clear.. or at least he appears to be so far.
Aye. The things he's doing feel town to me, but they're also exactly the things I would expect Mena to do to try to pocket me. Particularly: Early SR on me and going after Dann right out of the gate are things I think Mena is aware I'm likely to TR.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:09 am

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In post 99, Bingle wrote:
In post 96, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Now Bingle, got any other early reads?
Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.

You?
You didn’t mention them before here so I’m curious your reasonings.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:09 am

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I brought them up as a reply though.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:11 am

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In post 143, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Explain your VFP read.
Entrance was aggressively meh, seems to be moderately around and yet is only addressing topics that don't really have substance.

I officially endorse A50 poking this with a stick.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:17 am

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In post 134, Almost50 wrote:
In post 117, Lukewarm wrote:I am actually a little confused how the psychologist role helps us in this set up.

If he can get a "can kill" result on the baby sitter, but gets a "not able to kill" result on the cowardly mafia + any mafia that has already committed a kill, then on day 1 wouldn't a "can kill" result be a 50/50 chance at being the babysitter or mafia. And then starting on Day 2, they will basically be getting "is babysitter" and "is not babysitter" results, right?

That makes me question this advice given by Bingle
In post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.

We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out.
psych claims immediately if has guilty
I do have to comment on this though:

@Luke:
REGARDLESS OF HIS ALIGNMENT
; you should always treat Bingle's mech talk as gospel. It is accurate and indeed best play for Town. End of discussion.

Note: The above is not limited to this game. It does apply here but is a general rule of the thumb.
I have never played a game with Bingle, so I guess I will take your work for it for now. His advice doesn't really come into play until day 2 anyways, so we can talk about it then.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:21 am

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In post 130, Almost50 wrote:Hey, everyone.. I have a confession to make: this player list is so awesome I dare not post as much as it would disturb the flow of my own entertainment. I am reading though, so don't think otherwise.
is this lile that game where you have to make everyone else guess the word without actually saying it
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